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Hey so I've read and searched as much as I can throughout these forums and although there are postings on the legal status of JWH-018 I couldn't find anything (regarding it's legal status) as of 2009. After further searching the DEA website I found this in the Chemicals of Concern's sections
heres the link http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/drugs_concern/spice/spice_jwh018.htm

I just want someone else's perspective who's had experience ordering this in the United States; have you had many successful shipments? HAs anyone in hear ever heard of an type of prosecution at all?
 
**To further specify my question:
Experience ordering meaning you've had multiple(or one just specify if its a single) successful deliveries in 2009?
 
What part of the dea saying it's legal do you not understand? Who would make a case against you? The FDA for the unapproved personal use of a supplement? Perhaps Health & Human Safty for not wearing proper protection devices while handling a dangerous chemical? If you're getting a kilo and selling it can I be on retainer to give legal advice?

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What the hell are you on about? Are you sure you wouldn't like the weight of each package, the country of origin and the week number of each shipment as well?
 
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Just tried this a couple of days ago. Very similar to good old weed, and yet not quite... Probably in part because it lacks the ritual preparation of the joint/pipe and the taste/smell of the smoke...

Also it was very strange that the effects didn't taper off like with regular weed, but just pretty much disappeared abruptly. High as fuck for a couple of hours, and then suddenly - stone cold sober... Probably because of that I had a strong urge to redose - much stronger than with bud...
 
Hey all!
Sorry for my english ..)) Give what you can mix with JWH-018 to get a waxy mass (say balls to 5 mg) ... pure JWH crumbly. Thank you!
 
Does anyone know if JWH-018 can be used in an electronic cigarette? These work by vaping a propylene glycol and nicotine mixture. I think the vape temp of nicotine is 302 F. Is this too low to vape jwh-018? Is jwh-018 soluble in propylene glycol? Is it possible dissolve jwh-018 in anythingthat would safely vape in an electronic cigarette?
 
am I the only one to notice that the level of discussion has degraded to inane twitterings?

Dissolving stuff is hardly advanced discussion, stop expecting spoon feeding do some fucking experimentation.
 
vecktor said:
am I the only one to notice that the level of discussion has degraded to inane twitterings?

Dissolving stuff is hardly advanced discussion, stop expecting spoon feeding do some fucking experimentation.
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That's a great response from a mod on a harm reduction forum. In case you haven't noticed jwh-018 is fairly new. There isn't much I can find on solubilty besides acetone. You are an asshole and dangerous. Thanks for the help. I thought trying to use jwh-018 in an electronic cigarette was advanced. I was unable to find anyone who even attempted anything like that. Sorry to annoy you. Asshole.
 
^You should be banned for flinging insults at people. And I agree to vector, this forum has degraded from ADD - Advanced Drug Discussion to MDD - Moronic Drug Discussion. Unfortunately, the mods are not doing their job and keep the level of this forum at Advanced by deleting, moving or closing the moronic threads/posts which flood this forum.
 
Holy_cow said:
^You should be banned for flinging insults at people. And I agree to vector, this forum has degraded from ADD - Advanced Drug Discussion to MDD - Moronic Drug Discussion. Unfortunately, the mods are not doing their job and keep the level of this forum at Advanced by deleting, moving or closing the moronic threads/posts which flood this forum.
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My question was what could jwh-018 be dissolved in that would safely vaporize. If that question is inappropriate for this forum he should have said so. Instead he was rude, hostile, and gave dangerous advice. He basically told me to go try vaporizing jwh-018 dissovled in solvemts of my choosing. That is not harm reduction at all. Bluelight is a harm reduction website,. I posted looking for harm reduction advice. If the ADD section isn't going to abide by this premise, mabye Bluelight is the wrong forum for this section. I completely stand by my other post that his actions are irresponsible and dangerous. If this is how he normally responds to questions that he thinks are in the wrong section he shouldn't be a mod. I will wait for an apology and if the mods choose to ban me for responding with equal hostility go ahead. That's all I am going say abouty this.
 
Bluelight is a harm reduction forum - and many other things.

If you are at the point where you are ordering research chemicals, weighing them and dosing them appropriately, and considering interesting and novel methods of administration - you are assumed to be beyond basic harm reduction.

In short, your question was in the terrible cusp between sheer incompetence (in which harm reduction and hand holding will occur because people have figured it out already) and research (where people simply don't know).

Frankly, if you're bright enough to consider suspending jwh-018 in solution, you damn well better be able to figure out what solvents will be toxic and appropriate for your application. One of those things where if you can't do that, the rest of the project is pretty much fucked anyways.

What do you want? Someone to give you a long list of potential solvents, screened for toxicity, viscocity, and boiling point? You asked an advanced question where knowledge is limited, and assumed that magically people would know - and then got upset when people didn't know.

Sometimes you just have to do the work yourself.
 
If this question isn't allowed feel free to delete this post, I couldn't find anything about price's in the rules. Thanks

falls under vendor discussion and is certainly not ADD - nuke
 
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chester mcgruder said:
My question was what could jwh-018 be dissolved in that would safely vaporize. If that question is inappropriate for this forum he should have said so. Instead he was rude, hostile, and gave dangerous advice. He basically told me to go try vaporizing jwh-018 dissovled in solvemts of my choosing. That is not harm reduction at all. Bluelight is a harm reduction website,. I posted looking for harm reduction advice. If the ADD section isn't going to abide by this premise, mabye Bluelight is the wrong forum for this section. I completely stand by my other post that his actions are irresponsible and dangerous. If this is how he normally responds to questions that he thinks are in the wrong section he shouldn't be a mod. I will wait for an apology and if the mods choose to ban me for responding with equal hostility go ahead. That's all I am going say abouty this.
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You're an idiot. An absolute newb giving lectures about harm reduction?

Harm reduction doesn't justify posting your retarded drivel here. This forum is ADD if you aren't aware. It used to be that we could suggest that you take a look at the other threads in this forum, but you'd be wasting your time these days.

BDD is where solubility questions go. They're obviously not advanced, even if the chemical is new.

This has absolutely nothing to do with harm reduction.
 
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Oleamide

everhopeful said:
- One such inclusion that I thought was obvious but nobody ever got was Oleamide. I would welcome the expert opinion on this one please. It is used in two mixes that I know of, and before anyone gets upset about it's use as a lubricant etc remember it's endogenous capacity as well as it's extensive, long history in the food additive industry, although maybe that industry is not such a good example.
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Did anyone have any thoughts about Oleamide? It's apparently in three blends with JWH-018 and someone just posted a picture from Shulgin's lab from a few weeks ago of a bottle of oleamide with chillin xxx then hand written on the label:

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=430691 ...link broken. probably from a pruned thread..

That also has a link to more pictures from his lab. Anyway everhopeful is the second guy i've read discussing the potential of synergy between oleamide and jwh-018, i quote the other one in the link.

There is stuff published about it. Otto Snow was interviewed in the final entheogen review published two months ago. He talks about oleamide in it but it's not online - has anyone read it? Also this article had more but I can't get more than the abstract myself: "G. A. Thakur, S. P. Nikas, A. Makriyannis. CB1 cannabinoid receptor ligands. Mini Reviews in Medicinal Chemistry 2005"

It's also described as being patented for mood and sleep disorders. But it's a lubricant? Is there a story here?
 
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lol JHW-018 is not that bad for ya! and smoking spice is weak.
smoke the pure 018 powder, 10MG, standerd dose for me
 
Hey everyone,
Has anyone tried out jwh018 net? They seem to be givin away free samples of jwh018, just wonderin if anyone knew what it was like and what their prices where like?

Peace
 
joner said:
Hey everyone,
Has anyone tried out jwh018 net? They seem to be givin away free samples of jwh018, just wonderin if anyone knew what it was like and what their prices where like?

Peace
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They stopped doing it ages ago,
but it was legit.
i think it was ehither the amber king or the white fluffy one 8)
 
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