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[MEGA] Healthier "alternative"/homemade smoking devices

You said you didn't get munchies, but did you get the other effects? Did you get "3D" music hearing, etc?

How would you compare a vaporizer high to a normal one?
 
yea i want to know too. im trying to find the best way to get my gf stoned this w/e. bc che alwasy bitches about not being that stoned. i guess doing x before weed does this to u.
 
lol, smoke a blunt through a water bong if you have the right sized equipment. that will get anyone high. and vap feels different than a normal high, its deffinately a weird feeling not getting the other cbns or whatever. almost a clean feeling high. anyway, vaps don't really mess me up the same as a blunt through a water bong. everyones different tho.
 
anjatalker said:
You said you didn't get munchies, but did you get the other effects? Did you get "3D" music hearing, etc?

How would you compare a vaporizer high to a normal one?
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I was rather wrong about the munchies.. I believe my post was just pre-mature. I've since been smoking a lot with the vaporizer, and I must say, the high is great.

Definetly still have all the classic symptoms of being stoned... 3d hearing and whatnot. I'd say I'm a little less edgy, which is sort of nice. My eyes aren't as red as usual... No need for eyedrops.
 
Have any of you guys used the "Cheapvaporizer"? It's actually called like that and costs only $10. It seems too cheap and convenient to be true, so I guess it must have big drawbacks.

Has anyone tried it?

Thanks.
 
hey

Yeah.. my mom took away my vaporizer so im back to using unhealthy devices.. but for the dude who asked if cheap vaporizers work.. they should, its not that hard to make a homemade vaporizer.. my brother made one before i bought one it looked extremely poor but got the job done :) as long as there are no leaks then it should be cool.. shit even if there is leaks im sure you can patch em up.. thats how i got my vaporizer my friend wasted pot on it and barely got one hit i bought it from him for half price and smoked once... found out easily that it was leaking so fixed the problem now one bowl of that shit will get me ripped.. er.. rather it did get me ripped... grr!
 
R.M. Shackelford said:
I was rather wrong about the munchies.. I believe my post was just pre-mature. I've since been smoking a lot with the vaporizer, and I must say, the high is great.

Definetly still have all the classic symptoms of being stoned... 3d hearing and whatnot. I'd say I'm a little less edgy, which is sort of nice. My eyes aren't as red as usual... No need for eyedrops.
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Same experience here. I think that the main difference is that you smoke pure THC. You know that if weed burns, some THC is converted to other cannaboids (sp?) like CBN etc. My experience is this: THC is to me stimulating and gives a 'mind high' . CBN and so give more of a mellow 'body stoned feeling' and is more sedative.

In my book it works as follows:

* Indica strains smoked --> THC + much CBN --> stoned feeling, sedative, body


* Indica strains vaporized --> THC + a little CBN --> in between the two extemes
* Sativa straings smoked --> ditto


* Sativa strains vaporized --> pure THC --> high, stimulating, mind.


Warning: THC and paranoia are linked. The more THC, the more psychadelic effects, the higher the paranoia risk....

To put things in perspective: it is my experience that 90% of the cannabis high depends on the dose, on set (how do you feel before smoking) and on setting (where do you smoke, is it quiet etc). Only 10% (or less!) comes from the difference in strains, weed versus hash, smoking versus vapourising etc. My 0.02.
 
anjatalker said:
Have any of you guys used the "Cheapvaporizer"? It's actually called like that and costs only $10. It seems too cheap and convenient to be true, so I guess it must have big drawbacks.

Has anyone tried it?

Thanks.
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I haven't tried it. I have a lightbulb myself which works great. It's fast, it's cheap, it does not smell....

I am also one of those 'theory freaks' who want to understand all techniques.

I must say the cheapvaporizer seems * very * interesting. I do not see any drawbacks at all. i'd say go for it !
 
If thats a hole at the bottom it doesn't seem like it would work. Thats what it looked like to me from the picture. Peace.
 
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I think that the way it works is that you don't actually heat the herb by putting the fire directly under it, but rather let the hot air above the flame go into the vaporizer through the hole by convection. They keep saying that it uses convection and maybe this is what they mean. For some reason, the website claims that using convection is superior (in fact, as far as I know the more expensive vaporizers like the Vapir use convection rather than metal plates like the cheapr BC vaporizer).

Can anyone confirm this?
 
^^ That's how I understand 'convection' too.......if it were me, I would first heat the herb a little by putting the fire directly under it, and then draw hot air into the tube.....(--> convection heat) .

I can see why convection is better, in theory. Convection (hot air transducing the heat) leads to a gentler and more uniform heat.......wheareas local heating (a hot plate, or heating a lightbulb with your lighter) leads to (too) high temperatures in one spot, and too low temps elsewhere....

On the other hand, with my lightbulb, I just shake it so that the weed 'tumbles', plus I watch that the weed doesn't turn black.....I want it to turn from green to light brown (that's a sign I have the right temperature). So the heating is perfect.

On the cheapvaporizer, the path from the weed to your mouth is short. Heating the weed only by convection would mean that you have to travel quite some hot air over and thru the weed, which then goes directly into your mouth....I don't know if this wouldn't be too hot? Again, I would heat the thing itself unto the point where the weed is just warm enough, and THEN inhale hot air into, so that the weed gives off its vapor inmediately....

...Hope I made myself clear.....my language is Dutch, English is not my mother language...
 
i always grind the weed up into almost dust before i put it in the vap. figured the more green surface area the better. ofcourse i grind my weed up pretty well aswell, but not quite as much. as far a convection verses direct contact goes... i mean, the way i see it, as long as you're not using a bowl that shouldn't be hit w/ a flame or burning plastic or what have you, then take a pinch of weed out of the bag, place it in the bowl, light, inhale, set it and forget it. good to go. happy tokin.
 
Filter?

i plan on making my first bowl to pack my weed into and here are my plans
im taking this idea from a frind, he uses a socket (like from a wrench set) on a pen wrapped in tape or melted right into a bottle cap, and then he uses tin foil as the filter thingy (whats it called?) that keeps the weed from falling through. my question is that what else could i use instead of foil becuase iv read that it is bad for you to burn and inhale. thanks
 
oh, and when making a lightbulb vaporizer is it ok to use the frosted kind? i cant find any claer ones in my garage. will it effect anything? is there a way to "defrost" it? thanks..
 
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To defrost your lightbulb; get some (white) sand, throw it in there, swirl it around, and it's done..

For the homemade bowl, I dunno.. Doesn't sound that healthy. Plastic, tape, foil, they all produce toxic fumes when heated.. Just use the vaporizer.

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Buy yourself a nice glass pipe from a head shop. It's very much worth it.

To defrost a lightbulb, fill 1/3 with hot water, mix in some salt, swirl, rinse and dry.
 
^^ There are glass pipes selling for as little as $10 in NYC... my friend just bought one - obviously I had to go all out and spend $55 for a bigger one... heh

I will second the buying a pipe idea
 
i third the motion, but don't use a pen or foil. get a small maglite and find a screen made of (someone w/ more knowledge than me place a metal type here b/c i posted a thread asking about metals and no one answered completely). i mean in my noob days i smoked from foil but thats b/c i didn't know it would fume exactly, although i knew i was gettin more than weed b/c the foil would turn darker. anywho either buy a piece or make sure you're using a fume free bowl. good luck.
 
I have orderd about a dozzen of those cheap-vaporizers over the past cupple years. BTW they are called the ubie. They do work quite nicely. There are two major drawbacks though.

A) when you use them you are sucking butane fumes, not cool, i solved this issue by installing a cheap heating element that is battery powerd and push button operated, not to hot not too cold, it inhibits the portability somewhat but not by much.

B) they are made out of glass, i dont think its even pyrex so they are fragil and break if you are not careful, if you are careful they last a while. i have one thats been in continous use for about a year now.

They deffinatly take some trick to get to work properly, but if you are familar with vaporizing theory 101, its not difficult. They are also a BITCH to clean, and work best when very clean. Also chop up your leagal herbs finely.

They do work very very well with tobacco, while its very diffrent then smoking a cig, its more of a head rush, its like the crack of nicotine. Anyway they are massivly portable and do work. they are good for what they are.
 
How did the heating element thing work? Could you explain this a little bit more?

Thanks a lot.
 
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