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hey AE, i asked a question yesterday about a friend of mine had cut his girl down at wk s, he is drying it and curing it, but the smell has totally gone from the buds, unless you open one up and sniff inside, can you explain to me why this happens pls? Wat ould cause it to dissapear, i mean it looks right it did smell before he cut it down, but has just dis appeared, can you shed any light wat has gone wrong, by him, ie cutting it down to early r wat ever it may be, thanks alot ,
 
so tomorrow my girl will have been in flower for 2wks, so on the net water should i add some feed ? Im going to use Canna terra flores, it says to add 5ml per ltr but will 2 ml a ltr be ok to start with? And gradually build up, all she has had for the last 2wks is water without any nutes added, so am i right to o it his way? An sdi will as usual be greatly appreciated, thanks guys
 
goaheadanjuna said:
hey AE, i asked a question yesterday about a friend of mine had cut his girl down at wk s, he is drying it and curing it, but the smell has totally gone from the buds, unless you open one up and sniff inside, can you explain to me why this happens pls? Wat ould cause it to dissapear, i mean it looks right it did smell before he cut it down, but has just dis appeared, can you shed any light wat has gone wrong, by him, ie cutting it down to early r wat ever it may be, thanks alot ,
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Get him to finish curing it and then decide whether the smell has gone.

Curing it properly (and for long enough!) often brings the fragrance/scent back.

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so tomorrow my girl will have been in flower for 2wks, so on the net water should i add some feed ? Im going to use Canna terra flores, it says to add 5ml per ltr but will 2 ml a ltr be ok to start with? And gradually build up, all she has had for the last 2wks is water without any nutes added, so am i right to o it his way? An sdi will as usual be greatly appreciated, thanks guys
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I'm not familiar with that particular nutrient, but I almost always never follow the guide/charts from the manufacturer. Build up until you just start to get ever so slight tip burn and then hold back a bit. From there, build up gradually in this way, adjusting the dosage according to what your plant is telling you. Now you're 2 weeks into 12/12, you should start using the bloom fertilizer.
 
yea fertiliser is a single component fertiliser, its a complete professional nutrient for fast growing plants during the flowering phase, specially developed for growing in pots and soil, the npk is 2 -2 -4, so it should be fine i have seen how it works on a friends plant before, adding just this until near the end of the cycle when the pk 14/15 is added, so im going to go with this and see how we go, will my girl need more water during the flower, stage? I mean will she drink more if she is growing quicker than in veg? If so i will have to ke, an eye on her and maybe increase my wet dry cycle, wat ould you suggest?
 
^ Just water until there's a slight run off and then don't water until it needs to be watered again i.e. when the pot is light in weight and the soil appears to be dry when you stick your finger into the soil.

TBH that's not the best nutrient around from what I've heard, however you'll still be able to grow a decent plant with it.

Are you in the UK?

Are you not wanting to grow organically, goaheadanjuna?
 
yea i do live in the uk, and am only using that brand because of advice from other peace, so seeing as i am putting alot of time and effort into my grow, any advice on different additives that you know work and will produce good results for me, i am all ears and willing to follow your advice.
So do you reckon organic is the way to go? Is there a VIN difference in price and availability, so any advice you can give me i will take on board, i mean after all if im putting in all this time and effort i may as well do it the best way i can eh
 
yea i am in the uk, im just going by wat other people have said to be honest AE, so if you can give me some better advice i will take it on board, obviously if im going to ALL of trouble and time, i would like to end up with the best product i can, so can you give me some advice on which nutes and additives that i will need to produce the boom.
Unfortunately cash flow is a bit slow right now, but im waitin on a new job to start, then things wont be a problem.
S if you can give me names and makes and prices if poss of wat you would suggest that will give me the best results i would be most gratefull, you can just be appro for the prices, dont want to piss the mod off do we, so thanks AE and any one else foe ant advice, nice one
 
goaheadanjuna said:
yea i do live in the uk, and am only using that brand because of advice from other peace, so seeing as i am putting alot of time and effort into my grow, any advice on different additives that you know work and will produce good results for me, i am all ears and willing to follow your advice.
So do you reckon organic is the way to go? Is there a VIN difference in price and availability, so any advice you can give me i will take on board, i mean after all if im putting in all this time and effort i may as well do it the best way i can eh
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If you want my honest advice about how you can get the best results from your grow, I can help, but it will probably go against the grain.

I would buy Plant Magic Oldtimer Bloom (when you calculate the cost per dose it comes out cheaper than even dirt cheap B&Q bargain nutrients). Plant Magic are probably one of the more honest British companies that produce products that work well and sell through word of mouth rather than hype. *NO SOURCES*. You can buy a bottle of this for the cost of a couple of pints at the pub. The 1L bottle will last a couple of grows too.

If you've got more than one plant, in future, test one with an organic nutrient and another with a non-organic mineral salt fertilizer and decide for yourself. I'm sure you'll prefer the organic!

I would avoid pk 13/14 unless you want to artificially pump up your plants in to yielding more whilst sacrificing the quality you can expect with an organic crop.

Organic weed more often than not tastes a lot better than hydro or quasi-hydro weed, and if you're in soil you may as well go down the organic route anyway. Otherwise it feels to me like it defeats the whole point of growing in dirt (IMO).

There's at least one or two other people that have recommended Plant Magic nutrients on this board, so I'm not the only one that have benefited from their products, thankfully. Just keep it simple and stick with the Bloom only (keep it simple). The more products you start to use, the more chance you'll start to have a negative impact on the quality of your bud, and you have to ask yourself - for what? The sake of a couple of eights more weed? I'm sure you'll agree, taking the most straight forward route is the best way to go.
 
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ok thanks thats not to bad and you just add it as a normal in your feeding programme wat is the problems, with the pk? Do you think its on, worth adding if your going to sell your wares? Because from wat i understand adding it really bolts the size of the buds, there much bigger, but does it take away quality? As you know im still learning and fuck me there is so much to take in, now this grow is just for us to smoke our serves so i want it to be the best it can, i will look into the link you just sent, will it be ok to use it if i get it after i have started using the Canna will it cause a problem being different npk levels? Or do i just gradually change one for the them?
 
Yerg edited the fertilizer supplier because for some reason he deems it a source, but you got it goahead, right? If you type the product name into Google you should be able to find it easily.

The pk 13/14 is not needed with Oldtimer Bloom goahead. I'm not even sure that pk13/14 you mentioned is organic anyway (I'd have to check), but that's besides the point, as it's not needed with PM Oldtimer Bloom nutrient.

edit: if and when you get the PM Bloom, just switch over straight away, no gradual changeover needed.
 
I edited it because it is a source. If you want to discuss it my PM inbox is always open.
 
^ no, it's okay, I don't need to discuss it. It's just I was under the impression that 'source' applies to drug/drug paraphernalia, that's all.
 
If you're nutrient manufacturer is telling you your pk13/14 is organic, they're almost certainly lying. pk 13/14 almost always ends up sterilizing the soil biology. So if you want to maintan a healthy soil microherd, you should strive to stay completely organic.

A healthy soil microherd should underpin almost any organic grow, since bacteria/fungi are required to convert organic matter into plant available nutrients in the first place.
 
well the gas man came yesterday and all was ok, i think they must have been toad to check peoples loft, cos he got his ladder and had a quick look u there with his touch, it was only a quick glance and mine was ok, no light on and no sign of any thing going on so im not worried at all, before when you got the card saying they were coming to service the boiler etc there was no mention of them needing to be in the loft, but now on the card it says that they will need access to the loft, so that sounds to me that they have been told to keep an eye out for a grow, wat do you think?

I agree with you about the pk nd the organic nutes, ill give them a try maybe on the net grow, ill see may be this one, i will take a couple of pics tomorrow of my girl AE so you can ğive me your advice on how she is doing/not doing, im giving her 3ltrs of water bout every 3-4 days depending on how the soil feels an looks, she seems to be looking very healthy with no obvious signs of any sort of definancy, but id like tour opinion if tou dont mind,

So ill try and do it tomorrow
 
Artificial Emotion said:
Ah, okay, my bad (couldn't tell from the photo). Although because coco contains millions of tiny micro-pores, it's ability to hold air but also drain easily is exceptional, so you could probably drop the perlite from the medium, as it's just taking up space (roots don't grow through perlite, they grow around it), however that's another point.

Are you using coco nutrients? If not, I would make the switch to coco nutrients since coco has a different cation exchange capacity and so does marginally better with nutrients made for coco coir specifically.

Also, you're watering daily, right? Coco like daily watering - even better, twice daily is better, if you can (this is where automatic irrigation comes in handy).
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yeah i seen those coco nutirents today, they have a nice hefty price tage but ill look into them for sure, im currently using your regular hydroponic nutrients.

i have been watering once every 2 days, but i am set to automatic irrigation :) ill turn it to 1x daily then bump it up to 2x daily shortly afterwards. very convinient..

glad to hear positive news on the coco, its actually my first time using it, previous times ive used hydroponic mixed bags ( done through the hydro shop)

will keep ya updated on my progress and hic-ups. looking good for now ;)
 
misteee said:
yeah i seen those coco nutirents today, they have a nice hefty price tage but ill look into them for sure, im currently using your regular hydroponic nutrients.

i have been watering once every 2 days, but i am set to automatic irrigation :) ill turn it to 1x daily then bump it up to 2x daily shortly afterwards. very convinient..

glad to hear positive news on the coco, its actually my first time using it, previous times ive used hydroponic mixed bags ( done through the hydro shop)

will keep ya updated on my progress and hic-ups. looking good for now ;)
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You'll definitely get better results with a coco nutrient (a good coco nutrient), since the cation exchange capacity of the medium is different. This affects coco's ability to hold onto nutrients and means coco does better with a special nutrient made specifically for coco (trust me, it's not just a marketing gimmick).

Hesi coco nutrients is certainly one of the best coco nutrients (there are one or two others that rival it, but they're not as widely used in the UK at least) and seem pretty damn cheap in the grow shops I just had a look at. All you need is the Hesi TNT Complex for veg and the bloom in flower. It's definitely cheaper than most nutrients out there, and goes a long way. Granted some manufacturers take the piss, but not all do.

The unusual thing about Hesi coco nutrients is that even though it's a hydroponic nutrient, it still makes use of totally organic nitrogen. This is probably why it results in such good tasting weed. How they maintain such excellent grow rates at the same time is beyond me, but it works at the end of the day. This however means you can't use an EC meter (a relief for some, mind you!) to measure nutrient concentration. If I can have a semi-organic nutrient in a hydroponic system (coco) then I'm laughing! It's a compromise that takes the best of both worlds and as of yet I'm not aware of any other manufacturer that does the same (I'm sure they will some day, but I can only hope right now).

I think it's important for people in these threads to share with others when they've found a fertilizer/additive really works well for them so that when people go out and buy fertilizers/additives they don't rely on choosing a product from advertising or what looks most appealing to them in a grow shop (packaging/marketing plays a big role in this).
 
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It is a drug paraphenalia site, everything it sells is for growing weed. The no-sourcing rule covers EVERYTHING that isn't directly harm-reducing (like scales or clean needles). If we didn't have it, we'd be overrun with spammers. There are not that many rules here; don't talk about the price of anything, or where you can buy anything. Not hugely difficult. And, as I have said before, if you have a problem with a mod, PM him/her (or PM each other and whinge about it for all I care), don't clutter up the Grow Thread with it. Seriously, it's getting old.
 
For the record, it's not a weed site. They sell equipment for indoor gardening and I know of many people who use it for growing legit crops (like myself at the moment). I know I'm not being naive since I know personally the sort of people that use it. But anyway, I don't want to argue about it, really.

Lets just forget about it.

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It is a drug paraphenalia site, everything it sells is for growing weed. The no-sourcing rule covers EVERYTHING that isn't directly harm-reducing (like scales or clean needles). If we didn't have it, we'd be overrun with spammers. There are not that many rules here; don't talk about the price of anything, or where you can buy anything. Not hugely difficult. And, as I have said before, if you have a problem with a mod, PM him/her (or PM each other and whinge about it for all I care), don't clutter up the Grow Thread with it. Seriously, it's getting old.
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I don't know if this was directed at me, but if it was, I already said I didn't have a problem with it, Yerg.

Why make a big deal out of it when I've already said it's no big deal?
 
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^It wasn't directed at anyone in particular. Other users whinged, and subsequently deleted posts. Let's drop it. :::passes peace pipe:::
 
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