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Isaiah 55:8-9 (New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)

8 "For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,"
declares the LORD.

9 "As the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts than your thoughts.
 
1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the storm. He said:

2 "Who is this that darkens my counsel
with words without knowledge?

3 Brace yourself like a man;
I will question you,
and you shall answer me.

4 "Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation?
Tell me, if you understand.

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Job is a great book. :D
 
Too add to that, why is god so scared to show himself? If i was walking down the street and some dude came through the clouds and said ''i am god, worship me'' hell, i would do it in a heartbeat! But that doesnt happen, he doesnt show himself, he doesnt talk to us. No no no, he loves us all so much he lets millions of kids die from starvation every year, and lets babys die from disease and defects, oh and hes so fucking loving that he will let you die a slow horrible death with aids or cancer. Oh yeah, god is a real nice guy, i should pray to him and thank him for letting me be born into this horrible fucking world full of disease and poverty and starvation. Oh yeah, thanks a lot, god.

Btw good vid lagomorphia haha
 
^^^ Yes, if God were anything similar to a guy in form, thought, and behavior, you would be spot on.

Reminds me of a time I was at a party where they were spinning house, and I heard a kid say something about 'such shitty drum n bass'.
 
Damien8787 said:
Job is a great book. :D
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Thats the very book I had in mind when I said this:
All you need to do is read the bible (especially the old testament) to see that God is indeed a childish, arrogant prick.
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And although I was half-joking, this point of view is not new - it was actually a part of early christian though until some people with money decided it wasn't worth it and declared it heresy. (But it continued with people like the the sethians, and, to some extent, even the cathars
 
I honestly don't know, but I know an anthropologist who worked on a dig in that cathar church in southern france (forgot the name). I'll ask her :).

Sethians definitely are still alive and well.
 
FreedomOfTheMind said:
I was referring to the poster below you (Solitude within), who said that there is no God because there is suffering and hardship on this planet
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Sorry, let me rephrase this. It's not that I rule out the possibility of a God, but the evidence of our current situation tends to sway me into deductive reasoning. That either God isn't all powerful, or that he doesn't mind our suffering. Or that he doesn't exist at all.

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in order to have good times, you need the bad times
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While this is true in our current universe, it really didn't have to be this way. "God" wasn't required to work around the laws of our biological nature when designing us. In fact, by definition, he created all the laws himself. Again, it goes back to the question of his true nature.
 
All you need to do is read the bible (especially the old testament) to see that God is indeed a childish, arrogant prick.
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8o

Maybe - read the papers ( back in the 1970s) & discover the Birmingham 6 were guilty 8o - or were they?:\

For someone with a degree of wit jamshyd you ought to realise that what you're reading is someones interpretation of god within socal & cultural contexts that we cannot possible understand. :)
 
God is dead/doesn't exist/never existed.

Maybe a Higher Power, but a benevolent God? Naaa.
And IMHO the bible may or may not be the Word of God. Like everything else, that is open to interpretation. Hell, people cannot even agree with what the contents of the bible are supposed to mean. Man has translated that bible down through 2000 years, and surely many things got lost in the translation. Every human being, no matter how Godly, has an agenda. Even those that interpreted the bible for the rest of us.
 
MyDoorsAreOpen said:
Reminds me of a time I was at a party where they were spinning house, and I heard a kid say something about 'such shitty drum n bass'.
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i wish my mind could comprehend this. :\
 
Shitty analogy. Sorry.
All I'm trying to say is, you have to evaluate things by the standards of what they are, not what they're not. Words like 'so fucking loving' are appropriate when evaluating another person, but at least in my experience, especially after dabbling in Kabbalah, God is not a person and doesn't operate anything like one. To hold something not human to the standards of a human is kind of misguided, and bound to end in frustration.
 
MyDoorsAreOpen said:
Shitty analogy. Sorry.
All I'm trying to say is, you have to evaluate things by the standards of what they are, not what they're not. Words like 'so fucking loving' are appropriate when evaluating another person, but at least in my experience, especially after dabbling in Kabbalah, God is not a person and doesn't operate anything like one. To hold something not human to the standards of a human is kind of misguided, and bound to end in frustration.
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So, what is God not? I sam lost.
 
MyDoorsAreOpen said:
Shitty analogy. Sorry.
All I'm trying to say is, you have to evaluate things by the standards of what they are, not what they're not. Words like 'so fucking loving' are appropriate when evaluating another person, but at least in my experience, especially after dabbling in Kabbalah, God is not a person and doesn't operate anything like one. To hold something not human to the standards of a human is kind of misguided, and bound to end in frustration.
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Well whos fucking fault is that? If a god is going to design everything about me, atleast give me the ability to understand shit, and if not, dont expect me to worship him. Ill bring this up for if im ever upon judgment.
 
When you think about it, God is the biggest troll in the history of the universe.
 
A playful bastard to be sure, Guido! That's one thing the Hindus nailed, IMHO.

moonyham, all I'll say to you is this: if you have any desire to be spiritual and spiritually fulfilled (which you may not. I don't know), then I highly recommend you look well beyond mainstream Judeo-Christian doctrine. In less well known and less popular schools, you'll find a wealth of linguistic and artistic hints at the divine which square much better with what we know about the physical world, and don't leave you feeling like you're getting shafted.

Then again, the way of the cynical atheist (think George Carlin) never appealed to me in the least. Maybe it suits you just fine, I dunno.
 
im not atheist nor am i a follower of any religion. Im open minded to anything to be completely honest. Just so far, i havnt been presented with anything that doesnt sound like a massive crock of shit.
 
Understandably, dude. There's a lot of shit out there. Never give up, though. Always look at the motives of any writer or teacher carefully, in order to determine the probability of them selling you a crock. If they're sincere in their intentions to spread messages of comfort and joy to other wayfarers, let down your guard a bit. If they smack of gurus who'll say anything to get your money and your loyalty, look elsewhere.
 
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