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[MEGA] God

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TheAppleCore said:
Haven't read the entire thread, but I've got one thing to say:

SpunkySkunk, your attack on swilow for simply giving Xorkoth a friendly thanks was totally unnecessary. It was a total misinterpretation of a genuine act of kindness IMO.
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S'all good, Spunky and me have made up....tis just the internet after all :)
 
How do you now that you are only one? Best peoples on earth never said they were better or superior.Image Jesus saying" Yo bitchis!!!! I am the son of the god and you are just dump primitive animals!! I am here to save your fucktarded souls,anybody want autogram? This is your special last chance,I will die soon,shit..."
 
Does anyone actually believe in a god or deity?

Hope this is not a boring repeat, I'm just very curious. :)

This is NOT to discuss whether or not religion or spirituality can or cannot be useful to people or society.

I want to know if anybody actually believes that a conscious god exists who either created the world/universe or who watches over it and why.

I personally (and strongly) do not. This thread is not limited to any particular god from any religion, but my comments usually lean towards a Christian god because that's where most of my knowledge is. I cannot stress enough that this thread is about the existence of a deity, NOT the practice of spirituality or worship.
 
I believe in the overall "God" which I feel is basically, the collective loving energy and light of the Universe.

But beyond that, yeah I believe in things like lesser dieties, angels, stuff like that, if that's part of what you're referring to.
 
MynameisnotDeja said:
I believe in the overall "God" which I feel is basically, the collective loving energy and light of the Universe.
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This is beautiful, and I have experienced this before also.

What I'm more interested in, in this thread is this:

MynameisnotDeja said:
But beyond that, yeah I believe in things like lesser dieties, angels, stuff like that, if that's part of what you're referring to.
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Do you think these beings are conscious? What role do you think they play in the universe and why do you believe in them? Sorry if this seems intrusive, you don't have to answer, of course, I'm just curious. :)
 
Ive been reading an interesting book called Mark of Voodoo: Awakening to My African Spiritual Heritage, she uses many deities through her spiritual practice and through rituals in sub-Saharan Africa as a Voodoo Chief. Before my buddy handed me this book I honestly thought that Voodoo would be some archaic religion of gobleygook but to my surprise it was nothing of the sort. Sharon Caulder the author of the book is a PhD in depth psychology and mythology. Throughout the book she contacts many of the Voodoo community's deities and is even bonded with a deity called Hervioso she is even renamed to Sogbosi which is another name for the deity Hervioso. Through dreams, elaborate rituals, dance with rhythmic drumming, celebrations by the sea, sacrifices to awaken kundalini she is able to manifest these deities. With her initial merging with Hervioso she meets him in a dream she is rocketed out of her body into the heavens where they spiritually intertwine and both return to her body and their spirits merge as one. For anyone interested in African religions, deities, detailed recounts of voodoo rituals, manifesting deities, animal sacrifice this book is for you. I had honestly never delved into voodoo or deities or really knew much about animal sacrifice until now. Very intriguing topic. I could go more in depth but I have a philo paper to write if you have specific questions let me know and I can tell you what she recounts in the book, type out some excerpts of her initial merging with Horvioso in dream.
 
I do believe believe the Ultimate to be conscious, since we conscious beings are a part of him/her/it :)

The 'dude in the sky' is a metaphor for this more basic truth that shamans have been in contact with since time immemorial. But unfortunately, it's a very crude metaphor indeed.
 
Deja,
It's interesting to hear that you believe in lesser deities. Do you also believe in forces of evil?
My roommate and I were once discussing things like this and he said he always asks people who say they believe in angels if they also believe in demons.

As for myself, I can't say I really hold an idea of a higher power anymore. The closest concept that fits with me is God (I use this term as a general one) exists as the universe itself, as Deja has said before, or that God is perhaps the collective consciousness of the world.
 
I believe in the overall "God" which I feel is basically, the collective loving energy and light of the Universe.
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i believe the question then becomes, is this god conscious?

i am curious too, if what you think of as "god" is a conscious living entity, or if it is more like "eintstein's" god, aka the beauty of the universe and mathematics and the wonder at what might be behind it all

personally---- certain types of beings that are "supreme" over certain 3-branes (universes) is possible. doesn't seem to be the case in this particular universe, though
 
Do you think these beings are conscious? What role do you think they play in the universe and why do you believe in them? Sorry if this seems intrusive, you don't have to answer, of course, I'm just curious.
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Hmm. I believe in them because I've experienced them. I'll leave it at that, as I don't really like putting myself out there to be tore down by skeptics (not saying you guys would do that, but just in general). :) And yeah, I believe in "evil" in some sense, in the way we might percieve something to be evil here on earth. But I think on a grand sense there is not actually good and evil, its more an illusion, a constant balancing of energy. Like yin and yang, all make a collective and awesome whole. :)

My roommate and I were once discussing things like this and he said he always asks people who say they believe in angels if they also believe in demons.
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Yup. Believe in and have interacted with/experienced both. Understand that I am only using the words "angels" and "demons" as labels because these particular words seemed closest to accurately describing the beings I've experienced. I may or may not mean these words in the same way as someone else. I don't really think from our human perspectives we know enough to properly label any of these things.

I can go into more detail about my experiences if you guys want, let me know. It's just like I said, I don't like being mocked or doubted, and I am careful who I share certain parts of my life with because some people aren't very open minded.

i believe the question then becomes, is this god conscious?
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I wouldn't think enough of myself to answer that question. I couldn't possibly know what it's like to be God. But I do think God is somehow conscious, maybe not in the way we think of consciousness, but somehow.
 
The fact we're here and not nothingness is testament enough to the existence of a universal consciousness. The whole is greater then the sum of its parts like a car.
 
yes, that was a nice one, frosty.


whether it is conscious or not, well, in terms of consciousness that we experience or can understand probably not.
 
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