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Helios. said:
Diseases are evil.

Maybe to you... But to bacteria they are not. To bacteria they need us to live, same goes for viruses. So again, it is all about which side you are on.

If you were a bacteria and and came in contact with antibiotics would you call the antibiotics evil?
 
you have to make sacrifices if you're going to live as conscious entities - along with the gift of life comes the price of some suffering...

and as far as i can tell - god is not just a happy-go-lucky guy.. he's more like a mentally-challenged infant i think... all sorts of disturbing things get him off...
 
Some bacteria are pathogenic, some beneficial.

'life comes in phases take the good with the bad (1).'
Certainly, dukha/suffering exists as a part of life.

'The Goddess is calling for an honoring of that which she allows to be created through the core history of the blood, and those who own her planet are learning about love (2).' [depending on which 'side' your own, I guess]

(1) the beastie boys
(2) paul oakenfold
 
Helios. said:
Some bacteria are pathogenic, some beneficial.

'life comes in phases take the good with the bad (1).'
Certainly, dukha/suffering exists as a part of life.

'The Goddess is calling for an honoring of that which she allows to be created through the core history of the blood, and those who own her planet are learning about love (2).' [depending on which 'side' your own, I guess]

(1) the beastie boys
(2) paul oakenfold

I am not talking about pathanogentic, beneficial, gram positive, or gram negative. I am not talking about if a bacteria is only good if it helps you.

I am talking about the fact that if you were the bacteria would you be a bad organism if you used another oganism to feed on even if it was bad for the host?
 
And what reason is that? Why do priests molest little boys? Why do little kids die in car accidents? Shouldn't they first grow up and experience life before dying?
 
Cause this was how God desired for this manifestation to work and as for why there are so many bad things its because man fell from grace and is now trapped in a limited sense of identity.
 
Kilgore said:
I am not talking about pathanogentic, beneficial, gram positive, or gram negative. I am not talking about if a bacteria is only good if it helps you.

I am talking about the fact that if you were the bacteria would you be a bad organism if you used another oganism to feed on even if it was bad for the host?
If you were a bacteria you wouldn't know what's good or bad. You'd simply eat because it was there, it's only us humans and our amazing brains that are able to lump things into such arbitrary categories and then use them to prove/disprove some mythical being that is also the creation of that humans mind.

When people say God, I think 'existance/universe/multiverse/what-have-you'. Personally, I think it's stupid to personify God as this separate enitity that sits there and looks at everything and judges your actions. It might be something you tell your kid when he asks about where we go when we die (cause let's face it, telling them that "you just disappear" isn't a good idea, you don't want your kid depressed at age 4 because his cat 'disappeared') but in the long run it's just silly.

"Thou art God" - Mike from Heinlein's 'Stranger in a Strange Land'
"God is an abyss. I am an abyss" - Osho?

those two sum it up pretty well, I think.
 
shoe70 said:
It might be something you tell your kid when he asks about where we go when we die (cause let's face it, telling them that "you just disappear" isn't a good idea, you don't want your kid depressed at age 4 because his cat 'disappeared')
I disagree with that. The child will be depressed anyways, and it's better not to tell your children things that you don't even believe in (IMO). They need to learn.
 
BollWeevil said:
I disagree with that. The child will be depressed anyways, and it's better not to tell your children things that you don't even believe in (IMO). They need to learn.
Let's face it, unless you're pushing your beliefs on your children constantly and taking them to church, they won't become brainwashed with this idea. Plus, when they get older and can understand this stuff, you can have an actual discussion about it all with them.
 
Most of the questions so far are asking "Why do we suffer ?"

We suffer because...

... sometimes our actions warrant it

... we are attached to impermanent things - like our mind, body, posessions and desires

... we are ignorant and generally don't see things how they truely are

IMO
 
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shoe70 said:
Let's face it, unless you're pushing your beliefs on your children constantly and taking them to church, they won't become brainwashed with this idea. Plus, when they get older and can understand this stuff, you can have an actual discussion about it all with them.
I was just saying that I disagree. When I have children (granted I live that long), I plan on telling them that I nor anyone else knows what happens after death.
 
I dont personally believe in god,
but i'd say that if he did exist,
he made humans autonomous for freedom
its how we chose to exploit that that has made us teh way we are today.
 
BollWeevil said:
I was just saying that I disagree. When I have children (granted I live that long), I plan on telling them that I nor anyone else knows what happens after death.
No, I get it, this's my opinion, that's yours, etc. etc. I was just elaborating on what I said earlier.
 
shoe70 said:
If you were a bacteria you wouldn't know what's good or bad. You'd simply eat because it was there, it's only us humans and our amazing brains that are able to lump things into such arbitrary categories and then use them to prove/disprove some mythical being that is also the creation of that humans mind.

You don't really know that. To a bacteria the human body may be the universe. To a maggot the apple and the carcase might be he universe. To a human the Earth is our universe because we really don't know much about the rest of space.

So basically by being humans it doesn't make us special.

Also, to a fanatical muslim, he is good, we are bad. To a US citizen (non radical left) we are good and the radical muslim is bad. So you see, it is all about SIDES. But to a radical leftists the US and the rest of the West is bad.
 
Why do people need reasons? It's not like anything would change if you got an underlying reason other than the ones science has already come up with. But since you asked, I'll give you an overreaching, end-all be-all answer to the universe -or- multiverse that even I can understand.


Shit Happens. Deal with it.
 
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