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an end to famine? world peace? well of course we all want that, but He put man on this world to run it, and so maybe every one of us can help out a little, why cant we all put money in the charity boxes to help relieve starvation? why cant we all give clothes to charities to help clothe those who shiver with cold? why cant people do more?

well, i try to do more. we try to do more. the people i work with try every day to do more to help those around the world - but particularly in africa - less fortunate than us. i'm not talking about $2 a month to 'save the children', i'm talking about active involvement in running, promoting and organising charities, fundraisers, and awareness drives - and guess what; a LOT of people simply don't want to know. by working to change their opinions, even through basic education, we are making a difference....

but i don't see this as the 'miracle' that we've been waiting for - i see it as a determined effort by a group of multi-faith (including atheist) multi-racial multi-class people to do something for others... altruism aside, can't you just ascribe this to human decency? are we (as people) that flawed?
 
^ stop stop stop. wait. I dont want to sound like i am taking away your human decency, it fills me with warmth to read you are actively looking to help - you are one of the gems.
I dont think it is a miricle to have you and others actively helping -even if some do just do the £2 a month to help the children, it helps, but what I am saying is that there are many out there, who say why doesnt God do miracles, when they walk past a charity box without putting anything in. Who would rather buy a brand new book to read once and lose, rather than buy a second hand book in the charity shop and have even just a little money go towards those who need it,
who sit and say why doesnt God help, when all they do is sit and procrastinate.

if EVERYONE - and I mean everyone can do just one thing or even clubbed together to collectively help others less fortunate, then that would be a miracle. and if that helped the world and eased pain , then that would be a miracle - not a miracle as in it would never happen but a miracle as in a wonderful thing, a gift, a miracle.
 
Praying for our "so called enemies" would be a miracle.....and praying period... would be a miracle. I truely beleive if everyone where humble enough to get down on their knees and pray for a miracle and beleive that God does answer....that amazing things could happen!!!!!!!!!!
Haveing total confidence in God's pure love to overcome suffering...which by the way he did on the Cross....having complete trust in not what God can do for us....but by beleiving in him that we can do much through God.
Not by might....but by God's grace alone. Imagine if everyone for one second across this world where to Pray for God's power of Pure Light to overcome our spirits and renew our wills to be his humble servant....and I don't mean killing in the name of God!!!!!!!!!!!
Peace
 
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just think, here in australia ... if we all set aside ONE DOLLAR !!! each day, then we would have 20 million dollars to help out around the world, every day .... but we're all stuck in the loop (ALL OF US, to varying degrees!)

peace, love, light and a healthy release from the loop !
 
if EVERYONE - and I mean everyone can do just one thing or even clubbed together to collectively help others less fortunate, then that would be a miracle. and if that helped the world and eased pain , then that would be a miracle - not a miracle as in it would never happen but a miracle as in a wonderful thing, a gift, a miracle.

i entirely agree.

however, i would not classify that as a miracle as in 'God did this', but as in 'people did this'.

i guess i'm kinda like a Bogomil, except without the ban on sex :D
 
These last three posts are great! ''having complete trust in not what God can do for us....but by beleiving in him that we can do much through God.''
I love that and am happy you said it

''if we all set aside ONE DOLLAR !!! each day, then we would have 20 million dollars to help out around the world, every day .... but we're all stuck in the loop (ALL OF US, to varying degrees!)'''
you see? I think it is wonderful that we are saying that. let's get others to say it too - to help to just do it. what's a dollar? you can lose that on the street!

and above: yes 'people did this' you are right, and whether you believe in God or not, you can still make a difference, whether you say God did this, or People did this - if it is done, then it is a miracle.
 
"miracles" happen

its funny though, christians don't step outside the box to notice miracles happen in every religion, and in every spiritual belief.

why is that? is everyone else's miracles the work of satan or what?

i have an idea, perhaps it is faith and faith alone (not in God, Shiva, Zues, Mother Nature ect ect) that phenomena happens.

just my opinion, but i think that people should give their minds ability just a wee bit of credit.


p.s. why would someone need to ask somthing that is supposed to be pure light/good to do a good act. especially if this perfect thing knows all, would not need to grant wishes to prove its goodness, rather do good because its nature is good.

then again, ive read in a book where God is a jealous and vengeful being.

p.s.s. no disrespect intended, im sharing my personal views only
 
well that's just it, they shouldnt be asking, because it's about faith.

I cant see what you have written so I have completely forgotten why I came back in to edit this.

And let THAT be a lesson to you! ha!
 
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Faith has little to do with it. There is a science behind spirtuality and miracles, about getting into states of being that are more aligned with God, ourselves and our environment. The actual practice exists and has been coloured around many different ideologies over the years. The very fact that each person is cabale of enlightment shows that we all have been given the option of a greater lifestyle outside of pain.
 
Void said:
Faith has little to do with it. There is a science behind spirtuality and miracles, about getting into states of being that are more aligned with God, ourselves and our environment. The actual practice exists and has been coloured around many different ideologies over the years. The very fact that each person is cabale of enlightment shows that we all have been given the option of a greater lifestyle outside of pain.

I've read this through several times and still can't grasp exactly what you're saying.

A science behind spirituality and miracles? How do you know this?
 
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yes of course, but speaking on a level of understanding, it is faith that causes people to get in these states.

not for me. i got into such a state by asking myself who i was.
 
Void said:
Faith has little to do with it. There is a science behind spirtuality and miracles, about getting into states of being that are more aligned with God, ourselves and our environment. The actual practice exists and has been coloured around many different ideologies over the years. The very fact that each person is cabale of enlightment shows that we all have been given the option of a greater lifestyle outside of pain.

If there's a science behind getting into "the state" then you need to have faith in science to practise it.

It's all about faith.

While walking you have faith that your legs will make every step. It's just too easy to lose faith and take things for granted. So all it takes is thought to pray. And the mere thought of anything attracts it both in your mind (so you notice it more) and in reality (creating/manifesting).

Hell, if I didn't have faith in better times ahead, i'd end me right now.
 
I'll put the fact that I do not believe in "god" aside for now. If I did believe I'd think god gave us obstacles in life to see the construct of our character. In doing so he/she finds our worth in the possibility to be let into the everlasting ecstacy that is heaven...



... I should be a money grubbing clergymen...
 
One of the major fuckups of our society IMHO is the great effort we goto not to feel even the slightest bit negative or in pain. If you sneeze near a psychologist and remark that you hate having a cold you might be put on anti-depressants for the next few years just so the quack meets his monthly tablet sales quota. Ok so maybe its not that bad, but in some areas I bet it is.

Pain can be a good thing, it tells you that you have your hand on a hot stove or if you feel negative it may be a sign that you need to re-evaluate something or focus on something more in your life. Being completely numb or completely 100% high all the time high doesnt ncessasarily lead to a well balanced and healthy life style. Though I think its a lot to do with the escapism that is a daily part of our culture. Why deal with things if you can just zone out for a while, or put your mind on something else. You also have high flying corperate execs who treat life as a chess game, completely de-void of emotion and out of touch with the reality of their actions. Which is kind of like an addiction to 'win', adrenaline junkies kinda thing.
 
Void, I absolutely agree with you there. Safety consciousness has been blown to ridiculous proportions.

Pain is always good. I've found the worst moments of my life always end up being the best. My next silver lining will be fucking stunning.
 
i'm not sure what your worst moments entail, but i've found the worst moments of my life remain the worst moments of my life.
 
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