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MEGA - Drug/Legal issues impacting school/job

Whats pwid??

I hae a crimincal record, for something which disgusts, I guess its not really a crimincal record as I was just gien a caution, but I an so ashamed of what I did for pretty much no zero then I was fucked up
 
i can never live in a different country

do you understand how bitter this makes me feel knowing i will die in England a place full of wanker$.
You can live and work anywhere in the European Union.
 
I went to college with a double major in chemistry and psychology. I have worked in a pharmacy and have plenty of experience in a laboratory setting. Four years of college down and the money ran out. So i seriously start looking for a job, never got one after getting arrested for possession of marijuana back in '08.

I get 3 interviews one at a pharmacy one at a photolab and the other at a urinalysis lab. I get the job at the pharmacy i pass their drug test they canceled all interviews to rush me through. They call saying i cant get the job because i failed the background check. This is after i was told i was the best candidate and they dont want to interview anyone else. My heart breaks but i figured that was a long shot anyway.

The photo lab "doesnt hire anyone with misdemeanors" So that gets scrapped right away. I go to the urinalysis lab. I ace the interview i know all the stuff because of my chemistry experience. I'm golden 12 dollars an hour to start 35 hours a week. Then I'm denied yet again for my past. I beg, i can pass the drug test im a changed man! No avail the guy sympathizes with me saying "You'll get a job, your smart and personable, id hire you if i could" I've heard that 3 times so far.

I now work for near minimum wage part time at a grocery store. Even that i needed "special permission" to get because of my past. I hate my life I hate my job I wish someone told me this would completely ruin my life. Only more then 4 more years till its off my record and ill be almost 30! I was making more when i was 18 and in high school. Sally Mae rapes my ass for money every month, I have bills to pay and barely make 200 a week. I'm never going to move out of my parents house or be able to make my girlfriend happy. Everyday/ week is a struggle. I cry myself to sleep and consider risky options. I have a chemistry background I changed my life (kinda) and no one wants to give me a chance. I want to be an upstanding member of society but it wont give me a chance why shouldnt i use my talents for evil? Every day i consider it more and more.

People tell me thats not how it is im trying the wrong places, yeah well even the fucking grocery store wasnt going to hire me at first. I try to keep hope but I've been denied jobs left and right because of something i did 3 years ago. Its not long but i can pass a drug test yet no one cares.

I hope my story changes. I want to go back to school i want to move out but none of that will happen with 200 a week and 50 going to gas.
 
Yes, firearms...but due to exp, I managed to stay in my rather unusual highly regulated occupation (security clearances etc )and obtain a paramedic (like EMT-P not basic level) license.
 
possession with intent to sell - dismissed

possession of a controlled substance - diversion.. currently in the process of being expunged

transportation of a controlled substance - dismissed

possession of hypodermic needle - pled guilty

DUI drugs ( heroin) - not filed with DA.. lucked out on that one

so far my jobs have not been interfered with because of these
 
I have been convicted of cheating the train companies out of revenue (jumping train fares), convicted of DUI and driving otherwise in accordance with a license, and am probably about to be charged with carrying a bladed article in public.

The 3rd one has only happened in the past 3 months, and it hasn't changed anything - the others were more than a year old, and they haven't made things easy, but it's still been OK to find work.

I'm not yet particularly successful, but it has nothing to do with my criminal record - just lack of motivation and direction in the past, hard habits to break etc.

I will be successful, however, and I know it, and the petty "criminal" offences won't get in my way ever again.
 
I went to jail for a year got out at 18 and retired at 22. I consider myself successful
 
Over here the prosecutors office decides whether you get a "declaration of good behavior". If they decline to give you can go to court for it. The declaration is given for a specific job. This is a really good system because they basically only decline when convictions are relevant for the job type. -So a pedophile can be declined for work in a nursery but for work in construction-

I myself had to do some community service for something minor as a twelve year old. This shouldn't be recorded in any file at this point though, so no, I haven't been set back by a record.
 
Go to College until you can get your charge expunged or pardoned. That's what I'd do. If they want to keep you from contributing to society, might as well be a drain on it.

Personally, I don't think private employers should be checking criminal history, unless it's a day care provider, casino, pawnbroker or armored car driver.

It does nothing but keep criminals who have paid their debt to society unemployed, and increases their chances of recidivism.

The entire credit reporting/CRB check system needs a complete overhaul, especially in the US.

I agree... Being a convicted felon and now a business owner, I never check backgrounds..
 
Are you obligated to tell an employer about crimes you were accused, but not convicted of? Are you obligated to tell them about things expunged from your record?

I'm a bit late on this but I was talking to my lawyer about it just a couple of days ago.

It depends on how they word it, but usually they will ask "Have you been convicted of any crimes" or something along those lines. If you were accused and the charges were dropped or you were found not guilty, or by any other means you got away without a conviction then you can say no. Sometimes they'll ask if you were ever accused of a crime, but only for some jobs.

If it's expunged from your record then it is gone. Even if they look up the police records, it will be gone. If charges are expunged from your record then you can literally act as if they never happened.
 
i was accused of a felony for a fake id lol
payed about 2500 to get it lessened to a class c.

id be damned if i went through college and couldnt get a job for trying to get something i was restricted for by age.
 
psychomimetic said:
It depends on how they word it, but usually they will ask "Have you been convicted of any crimes" or something along those lines. If you were accused and the charges were dropped or you were found not guilty, or by any other means you got away without a conviction then you can say no. Sometimes they'll ask if you were ever accused of a crime, but only for some jobs.

This seems like a major breach of etiquette. According to the legal system, you're just as innocent, regardless of whether you were charged then found not guilty or it was dropped, or were never charged at all.

If this question was asked, I would wonder why the employer wanted this information, and what they would use it for, when deciding who is the best candidate for the job. I would also wonder, if they can't use that information to discriminate, why ask the question at all?
 
I have a felony on my record since than its been like impossible to find a job... I even applied for a job walking dogs, Even a job for picking up dog shit i didn't get it because i had a record.... They where interested in giving me a job but i had to do a drug test and pass a background check... i passed the drug test failed the background check.... didn't get the job


A job picking up dog shit, i didn't get because of my record, fucking aye
 
I have to say, if there's one major difference between the US and Canada, it's that in Canada, drug testing and criminal background checks are very, very rare.

In the US, they seem to be quite common.

We believe, that once someone has served their debt to society, that they have absolution to be a regular citizen, free from discrimination. We do not believe in convicting someone past their sentence, and certainly not for some private company's risk-mitigating bottom line. It's none of their business.
 
Never been in legal-troubles personally, but one of my best friends
- (may have been ;0) Transferring marijuana between two states' colleges in the US, while a college student,
- was setup and, while returning with product, was surrounded by cruisers and a K9 unit. Once confronted, he panicked, and nailed his own coffin shut,
- had to serve about a month or two for trafficking or whatever the hell the charges were (at the time of arrest he had product in one large single parcel, but had a scale/tons of bags with him - he lost his nerve/was unaware of how to handle such a situation, and put himself in a place where his parents' (obscene) amount of $ towards lawyers couldn't keep him out of jail, despite it being pot-only, and nothing too large (couldn't have been more than half or a whole key on him at the time, unsure what amounts he may have admitted to during the stop tho)

He served his little sentence and, upon finishing it, he transferred from one of the schools to the other (he transferred to the school he was supplying). He completed his degree in a finance-field (sorry, cannot be more specific for reasons of his anonymity), and is currently doing great work with one of the biggest firms in his industry. This same firm had him as an intern *during* college, like a year after his arrest, and was paying him crazy cash while he was still in school.
While I know he was shitting bricks about his future, once he actually spoke with the company he'd been aiming to intern/work with, he found they didn't give a shit about it. Very likely due to the fact he was a non-violent, drug-only offender (pot-only, to boot), but I should stress that the firm he works with, and his position in it, is very highly regarded. He's doing about the "best", in at least a work/employment setting, than most of our peers (many of whom are doing very well themselves).

It depends what you want to do, and what the charges are relative to that.

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(not my friend, obviously)
 
Bighooter - and all in the UK - there is somegood news - They are doing aw\y with CRB's for any jo that does not involve working with a vulnerable client group e.g kids etc. Therefore, at least shops like Tesco will not be able to do them and stop every fucker with a criminal record from having any fucking chance - not sure what date it is coming into play from or if its already been put into force but I was told abotu it and googled to check - and it was a recent gov't announcement.
 
quick add on - as said above - the biggest fuck off re; drug use and crim record is knowing that you can't move to America or Australia - even if don't ever get around to moving somewhere sunnier - it not fair to be unable to due to record.
 
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