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RCs Measuring question w/ out scale

That's not responsible behaviour, good luck, but if you come a cropper you've no-one to blame but yourself.
 
To those of you who suggested propylene glycol, do you know how long you can stably store benzos in this type of solution for ingestion later? Also, would dissolving in such a solution eliminate insufflation as an ROA? I have a similar issue with etizolam powder. I do have a 0.001g scale, but as someone else in this thread said, that's not really accurate enough.
 
To those of you who suggested propylene glycol, do you know how long you can stably store benzos in this type of solution for ingestion later? Also, would dissolving in such a solution eliminate insufflation as an ROA? I have a similar issue with etizolam powder. I do have a 0.001g scale, but as someone else in this thread said, that's not really accurate enough.

I'm not entirely sure of a specific shelf life, but I do know that one of the uses for propylene glycol is to increase shelf life. I would guess that whatever the usual expiry date of the medication would be approximately the same when dissolved in propylene glycol, assuming you kept it from getting contaminated with anything. I have some nicotine mixed in PG right now and it doesn't have an expiry date on it. All I could find online was "extremely long shelf life" or specific meds (other than etizolam) that were advertised to have a longer shelf life when in a solution with PG. You don't have to refrigerate it or anything. Propylene glycol itself has a shelf life of 2 years when stored in a closed container at room temperature.

PG is used as a nasal spray, (see: http://www.medicinenet.com/propylene_glycolpolyethylene_glycol_spray-nas/article.htm) so I think that it shouldn't preclude someone from snorting it. It can also be vaourized and inhaled.
 
laCster, if you don't have a scale, you should get some 25I-NBOMe or some phenazepam, those are way easier to eyeball dosages. Having a couple beers before eyeballing the phenazepam will only make it even safer, as your hands will be relaxed as you measure.



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dude i fucking blacked out last night and ui have no clue whereal 32 mgs of etizolam went... hatever fuck it... its not worth it unlessi have a scale


i a still feel sooo fuckedup from last night eve though i have no clue what happpened last night
 
And this is why you make sure you dose accurately.
Don't risk it. We're an HR site, and your actions are stupid.

Just be careful in the future, please.
 
^ I took it while you were taking a piss in the fireplace while yelling at the lamp in the corner
 
Whilst I'm not gonna argue about the need for a microgram scale when measuring RC's active at doses in single digit micrograms, it's at least worth pointing out that 'eyeballing' RC's whose threshold doses are ~20mg plus isn't necessarily gonna kill you. *Of course, this is assuming nothing else has been consumed.* <Gonna edit this because although my experiences doing it haven't been harmful, somebody else's could. So don't eyeball doses. I don't need a death on my conscience right now.>

What're the average doses of an insufflated line of say coke, or heroin? A brief google search (rigorous research i know) suggests 50-500mg (?) and 10-80mg respectively (thanks erowid). The large variations are due to variations in purity. Ever seen a person take a little scale out of their pockets before railing a line of coke?

The other point I wanted to make regards the accuracy of a £12 scale. Personally, I just wouldn't trust it, especially in measuring such low weights. I'm sorry if i come across as a little bugger; I just wanted to point out what might, or might not, potentially save someone a bad time. If anyone wants to disagree with my claim of cheap scales being inaccurate, then please do. I might actually buy one then.

Which leads me onto point three: Enough of all this "if you can afford a gram of XYZ then you can afford a scale." This simply isn't true in every case. Some of us have to choose whether to spend our money on the drugs or the scale. And we all know impatience wins out in the end.

Again, sorry if i came across in any way hostile there. I really didn't mean to. Besides, with 5 posts I surely can't afford to.

Buy a scale. :)
 
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Like poetry in motion!
Seriously: we've all blacked out on benzos but the miniscule dosage for Etiz makes experiences like yours inevitable without accurate dosage.
 
For anyone buying RCs, if you have the money to buy them you have the money for a scale. i dont care that youd rather buy drugs with that extra money, that just shows that you dont care about your health. buy a scale as its a invesment that youll realize will allow your experiments with rcs to be funner and more rewazrding, and not to mention safer
 
Cloudy, you're entirely right. In my defense the only RC's i've bought have been active in quite high doses, making taking an LD50 dose at least theoretically impossible. And the point you make about giving a shit about your health has wider implications; if people start taking huge eyeballed doses of really potent RC's and end up dead, the legal loophole allowing their sale will close up tighter than a junky's anus (...sorry).
 
Last time I ever bought 100mg powder etizolam I blacked out for 3 days and effectively came to in Bristol in the middle of a Squarepusher gig.


Buy scales.


(And more importantly)


USE THEM
 
Ever seen a person take a little scale out of their pockets before railing a line of coke?

I hate to be the devil's advocate but yes actually I have. Numerous times in fact. When me and my buddies pick coke and its a new batch first thing we do is pull out the scale, measure out 100mg, and hope that we get that instant rush of euphoria followed by the light sweats that start at the chest and work its way out. Mmmmm, man do I want a nice rail now.
 
I should probably delete my post advocating RC use without scales; it probably wasn't very responsible after all. Not sure if I need a mod to do that though. Apolly loggies.
 
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