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MDPV - So how dangerous is it?

I could never get to that stage with the white, the heart palpatations, chest pain and anxiety always got too much for me after a few puffs lol...
 
MDPV has it's dangers just like any other drug..It all depends on the dose and person,tolerance and such...

The things i like about MDPV is it's legality and availabilty...Gets swim trip high as fuck and is within walking distance to buy it...

The cons would be I cant say no to it,heart palp's ,makes me peak out windows but nothing any worse than what im use to.....



Trip out baby...
 
ive abused mdpv for few years now and the psychological damage it has cause is major. kinda hard to admit but i wish i never seen the substance :(
 
if you are semi-paranoid by default i would never suggest this material for recreational use :/
 
kken said:
ive abused mdpv for few years now and the psychological damage it has cause is major. kinda hard to admit but i wish i never seen the substance :(
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Care to elaborate? Im one of the lucky few who gets no paranoia or anxiety from MDPV. Im also one of the lucky few who owns a quality milligram scale lol
 
Someone on here mentioned that when they vape MDPV that they don't let it burn, just melt it then stop. Is this really any healthier?
 
Burning MDPV doesn't seem like a good idea at all. I thought the whole idea of vaporizing was to generate inhalable vapor rather than real smoke?
 
You're right, you're not supposed to let any substance being chased or vaped burn. Burning decomposes the active chemical into something inactive, and may well be harmful.
 
I was thinking about starting a new thread for this but then I found this thread.

I'm new to MDPV and I was wondering what you guys would consider responsible use vs abuse. So far, I've been enjoying it but some of the stories I've read about it making people absolutely psychotic at high doses are scary. For the last three mornings, I've been snorting around 5-9 mg, starting with half that and then snorting the other half 30 minutes in. It does a great job waking me up and I start my day off feeling good. While I sometimes feel a slight urge to redose, I never do because I'm afraid that will lead down a slippery slope. As I come down, I find that 120 mg of caffeine eases the comedown.

So my question is, am I being naive here thinking that what I'm doing is safe and reasonable? Would using MDPV daily, or at least 5 times a week in this fashion lead to mental problems or an inevitable transition from use to abuse? Will my tolerance significantly increase? So far, I feel no signs of any problems, yet what I read about MDPV scares me. So am I being a naive idiot assuming I can use MDPV as a more pleasant substitute to caffeine in the long term or have other people here been able to keep this kind of usage steady? I don't want to end up posting a thread here in two months explaining how I've consumed a gram of MDPV in three days without sleeping and am singlehandedly fighting the Russians in my stimulant fueled psychotic delusions. So what do you guys think?
 
Personally I think using any drug daily is stepping onto a slippery slope. If you truly think you can stop it becoming an extra bump at lunch time, and then another to avoid the comedown before dinner, and then another to avoid sleep because there's no point trying and then another so you can keep up pace while you run from the shadow-police, then go for it, but it might be harder than it sounds.

Daily use is a tricky pattern, some drugs are more suited than others, but really unless you NEED (prescribed by a doctor) them, I'd steer well clear.
 
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killermunchies said:
I'm new to MDPV and I was wondering what you guys would consider responsible use vs abuse.
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For me, this is a very personal thing (also varies from person to person).
I played with this line in my "almost addiction" to speed. I say almost, because I allowed myself to "wobble" on that edge, exploring a lack of control (surrender to the urges) and control (not give in to the urges). I found that I grew ALOT from this exploration, as well as became stronger. But I'm one of those weird people who doesn't use drugs so much for recreation as I do spiritual/personal growth.
So for me, "abuse" is using the drugs totally unconsciously and just letting it run you all the time (unless you are a total control freak, then this might be useful for a while.)


killermunchies said:
I'm afraid that will lead down a slippery slope.
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Slippery slope... that's the point! You develop your personal strength by working to not slip. Then you slip, then you work to stop yourself. It sound psychotic, but it's the same principle as working out at the gym with strength training. You keep challenging yourself over and over and you become stronger. You learn to trust yourself more... you realize you really DO have more self control then you thought. (geesh, I'm starting to sound like Tony Robbins)



killermunchies said:
As I come down, I find that 120 mg of caffeine eases the comedown.
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Dude, you do whatever works! If you can find a way to ease comedown (and not just extend it!) then DO IT if it works!


killermunchies said:
So my question is, am I being naive here thinking that what I'm doing is safe and reasonable? Would using MDPV daily, or at least 5 times a week in this fashion lead to mental problems or an inevitable transition from use to abuse?
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Yes, you are being naive... but we all start there :)
Trust yourself... you WILL KNOW when it's not good for you anymore. When the pain of the comedown or using is more then the benefits you receive... it's past the time to stop. Stop.

To me, mental problems come from people who just unconsciously dive in and never look back until someone drags their ass out of some gutter. Just the questions you are asking, tell me that you are NOT one of those kinds of people. You are too aware of yourself and your actions to go down that kind of path. You would stop yourself before you got too far.


For me, I would do "binges" for like 2-3 days, but then my body would say "enough" the drug just wouldn't work anymore... it wasn't pleasurable... so I would struggle thru the comedown as best I could and then give myself some time off (resisting the urge to redose because I knew it would not be as good as my imagination was leading me to believe.) And after each one of these experiences (which were both bliss and hell) I could tell I was a stronger, more balanced person. These explorations were the most empowering thing I've ever done in my life. I went from this pathetic wimp, to a VERY strong and balanced individual.

This is NOT for everyone... but if you consider yourself some degree of a control freak, you likely would not have any real issues.

An extreme viewpoint, but it's been my journey.

Mauka
 
Thanks for the input guys. I made that last post while under the influence of peevee. After letting the drug wear off, I did some more rational thinking. While it feels great to start, the comedown leaves me in a bit of a daze. For that reason among others, I feel that it would be best left for special, or at least irregular occasions. Plus, my jaw is starting to hurt... I feel like I could have enough self control to do it, but I don't think it's worth the risk and side effects for me. It's amazing how quickly MDPV can make you go from "this is great" to "why the fuck did I do this again?"
 
Il post some anecdotal report of my experiences with this substance. so far ive been hospitalized 5 times due to over use and it has left permanent hypersalivating which i have to take antihistamines to control now, sleep-wake cycle destroyed, antipsychotics are the only thing combined with benzos that put me to sleep
 
brainbug said:
youre an alter ego of stuffmonger/amhico?
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Jesus fucking H bro will you stop with the completely baseless accusations against stuffmonger? He is clearly not affiliated with am-hi-co and to believe that all of his extensive efforts along with one neutral/negative reference to an am-hi-co product are just a long-winded marketing attempt is paranoid and deluded.

You have mentioned their name more than him. Do you want me to parade around accusing you of spamming / marketing for am-hi-co?
 
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