No it does not smell as bad as MDPV, I have had a couple long a-pvp binges, only last time where there was 500mg MDPV into the binge also, things/I started to smell funny
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MDPV Megathread 9: The thrill of the chase
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No it does not smell as bad as MDPV, I have had a couple long a-pvp binges, only last time where there was 500mg MDPV into the binge also, things/I started to smell funny
adam west
Bluelighter
dont worry about it nick, clowns smell funny too.
a pvp does sound less intense and more managable really but all things considered it just makes sense to me if i was thinking about just getting pv and more bang for the buck
a pvp does sound less intense and more managable really but all things considered it just makes sense to me if i was thinking about just getting pv and more bang for the buck
QuasiStoned
Bluelighter
I found freebase apvp way too great for comfort. I honestly couldn't control myself at all, I was so obsessed with it. It was absolutely insane how a big rip of the freebase felt. I'd stand there saying out loud "Holy shit holy shit holy shit this is insanely Awesome.
I had so much difficulty spacing out my hits though, I ended up smoking massive amounts and getting a ton of side effects.
Today I ran out and I'm pretty much a wreck. I don't even know what to think about it my mind is blown.
I had so much difficulty spacing out my hits though, I ended up smoking massive amounts and getting a ton of side effects.
Today I ran out and I'm pretty much a wreck. I don't even know what to think about it my mind is blown.
QuasiStoned
Bluelighter
Does anyone else spend ridiculous amounts of time looking for spilled PV and foils with residue on it? I must have spent hours looking in the same places over and over again searching for "misplaced" foils. It was totally fucked.
Ben So Furry
Bluelighter
ha ha ha yeah, there must be some around here somewhere, there has to be, I will find it. The amount of times I've been through the bin to pull out little bits of crumpled foil in the hope of even the slightest hit is beyond belief. The depths pv will take you 
Shambles
Bluelight Crew
Oh yessum. The ritual going through the binbags foraging for stray tooters and the like. Have actually found (briefly) satisfyingly decent ones too now and then. I try to switch tooters regularly so I have plenty to fiddle about with towards the end. Nothing satisfies quite the same as finding a caked tooter unexpectedly
Ben So Furry
Bluelighter
Agreed not in the same league as far as I'm concerned. I wish I hadn't read the post about a-pvt bringing out the fiend in me.
QuasiStoned
Bluelighter
Haha yeah it's amazing when you actually find something when you are scrounging around endlessly for a hit. I know a few times I've found some goodies and I usually leave shit around for me to find.
I know how much better mdpv is. I used to get it back in the day and it was amazing stuff but let me tell ya - freebase apvp was pretty mind blowing. It takes a lot of time and effort to get it, I have to slowly and painstakingly prepare it with just the right mixture of water, heat, and baking soda. Often something goes wrong and I overheat it when preparing or add too much baking soda and the whole thing spatters and it's ruined. But when you get that fetid cheesy odor coming off of it and you see that gold colored oil I nearly shit myself with excitement. I might even say it's superior to smoking mdpv hcl on foil, the rush and hornyness was scary good. I was in over my head with it. It was just too good.
The a-pvt freebase caught me off guard. A-pvt seemed all around less potent and interesting than a-pvp, the hcl salt vaped very poorly and I had a lot of it so I ended up making some pretty big hits of the freebase on foil and I was so dizzy from the rush I thought I was going to pass out. But it was over just as quickly as it was there and it didn't really have any pro-sexual effects.
Wow I'm glad it's all gone though. I can't function very well at all with something like a-pvp in my life now that I really got a taste of freebase. I took piss poor care of myself and within 2 days I was spending almost all my time hiding out and smoking it. I work a shitty job and no one really notices me missing, I was spending like 20 minutes in the bathroom every hour making apvt and apvp freebase. I couldn't help myself, it was so weird.
I know how much better mdpv is. I used to get it back in the day and it was amazing stuff but let me tell ya - freebase apvp was pretty mind blowing. It takes a lot of time and effort to get it, I have to slowly and painstakingly prepare it with just the right mixture of water, heat, and baking soda. Often something goes wrong and I overheat it when preparing or add too much baking soda and the whole thing spatters and it's ruined. But when you get that fetid cheesy odor coming off of it and you see that gold colored oil I nearly shit myself with excitement. I might even say it's superior to smoking mdpv hcl on foil, the rush and hornyness was scary good. I was in over my head with it. It was just too good.
The a-pvt freebase caught me off guard. A-pvt seemed all around less potent and interesting than a-pvp, the hcl salt vaped very poorly and I had a lot of it so I ended up making some pretty big hits of the freebase on foil and I was so dizzy from the rush I thought I was going to pass out. But it was over just as quickly as it was there and it didn't really have any pro-sexual effects.
Wow I'm glad it's all gone though. I can't function very well at all with something like a-pvp in my life now that I really got a taste of freebase. I took piss poor care of myself and within 2 days I was spending almost all my time hiding out and smoking it. I work a shitty job and no one really notices me missing, I was spending like 20 minutes in the bathroom every hour making apvt and apvp freebase. I couldn't help myself, it was so weird.
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Ben So Furry
Bluelighter
God I'd love a hit right now, damn this thread. Freebasing a-pvp sounds like just the type of mission that would be great for a pv attention-to-the-max few days in the wilderness.
Shambles
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Hehe. You do have a knack for putting the fiend's mind down wel in textform, Quasi. StimPr0n for the discerning and no mistake. Have never bothered trying similar things cos peev is too perfect to mess with. Sound quite intriguing on their own merits rather than just being "not-peev but a bit like it". You've piqued my intereest, Quasi...
QuasiStoned
Bluelighter
It's a mission all right. For whatever reason I find that getting the freebase could be quite challenging. I found that just smoking apvp salts and even mdpv back in the day was a highly ritualistic process. It becomes even moreso ritualistic This way to the point of ridiculousness. I was always somewhat addicted to the act alone of watching mdpv and apvp vape but this adds so much more time and effort. I swear it was a high in and of itself though when you got it right.
Man it's been like 14 hours since I ran out and I'm in a lot of pain. My legs are so weak and sore, my lips so chapped and damaged I could barely open my mouth to look at the painful sores on my gums and tongue. Today was not a good day, I went into work after vaping the last of my stash all night then spending most of my morning looking for the "misplaced" foils. I got 3 hours of sleep before work and a total of 10 hours sleep in the past 4 or 5 days. I was miserable.
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And Shambles I'm glad you are enjoying my "stimpr0n posts, though also I feel like I should be apologizing at the same time. This is probably the first time I made it online during a binge to discuss it but I was really feeling a need to talk to someone, anyone about it really. Normally my apvp are unsatisfying at best because I can't seem to get the salt to vaporize on foil in a satisfying enough way to get me off like mdpv did. I spent so much time thinking about ways to get big satisfying hits but I just end up chasing the bead around too much to keep it from getting overheated and it's just not enough. To get those really big hits it's almost impossible not to degrade the salt in the process. Apvp requires more material than mdpv to achieve the same level of satisfaction and it seems impossible not to degrade it too something less than ideal in the quest to get the proper blast off. Hence where the freebase comes into the picture - you can get almost all the vapor you want in one giant hit without mucking it up.
Man it's been like 14 hours since I ran out and I'm in a lot of pain. My legs are so weak and sore, my lips so chapped and damaged I could barely open my mouth to look at the painful sores on my gums and tongue. Today was not a good day, I went into work after vaping the last of my stash all night then spending most of my morning looking for the "misplaced" foils. I got 3 hours of sleep before work and a total of 10 hours sleep in the past 4 or 5 days. I was miserable.
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And Shambles I'm glad you are enjoying my "stimpr0n posts, though also I feel like I should be apologizing at the same time. This is probably the first time I made it online during a binge to discuss it but I was really feeling a need to talk to someone, anyone about it really. Normally my apvp are unsatisfying at best because I can't seem to get the salt to vaporize on foil in a satisfying enough way to get me off like mdpv did. I spent so much time thinking about ways to get big satisfying hits but I just end up chasing the bead around too much to keep it from getting overheated and it's just not enough. To get those really big hits it's almost impossible not to degrade the salt in the process. Apvp requires more material than mdpv to achieve the same level of satisfaction and it seems impossible not to degrade it too something less than ideal in the quest to get the proper blast off. Hence where the freebase comes into the picture - you can get almost all the vapor you want in one giant hit without mucking it up.
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Shambles
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Miserable ain't so great, Quasi 
Ben So Furry
Bluelighter
Oh I hate how your mouth becomes all blistered and sore on the inside and your teeth feel like their made of cotton wool with a coating of the seven deadly sins.
Once my legs became so weak I could barely walk and my knee starting clicking when standing up and has done ever since. My ankle swelled up to twice it's size and I had to go face the doctor, weak, stinking and having been up for days. I think she was writing the prescription for anti-biotics before I had entered the room so keen she was to get that vile, retched little man out of her clinic.
Once my legs became so weak I could barely walk and my knee starting clicking when standing up and has done ever since. My ankle swelled up to twice it's size and I had to go face the doctor, weak, stinking and having been up for days. I think she was writing the prescription for anti-biotics before I had entered the room so keen she was to get that vile, retched little man out of her clinic.
Shambles
Bluelight Crew
Ya. Takes no prisoners. And that's why it's so damnbably divine 
Doesn't look pretty from the outside. From the inside though.... If only "they" knew what they're missing down in the shadiest lil nooks and crannies of a mind only peev can find....
Dammit. Am quite literally drenched and dazzled by the pretty aMT fairies tonight but there's still a lil bit of me that wishes I was with Quasi huddled round the tinfoil and scabby shit. And I mean that far nicer than it reads back. Y'all fiends know what I mean.
Doesn't look pretty from the outside. From the inside though.... If only "they" knew what they're missing down in the shadiest lil nooks and crannies of a mind only peev can find....
Dammit. Am quite literally drenched and dazzled by the pretty aMT fairies tonight but there's still a lil bit of me that wishes I was with Quasi huddled round the tinfoil and scabby shit. And I mean that far nicer than it reads back. Y'all fiends know what I mean.
QuasiStoned
Bluelighter
Shambles I missed your post earlier and added an edit about it, I'm on a mobile phone and it takes me a while to write up these posts and I often miss posts while I'm writing it up.
Yeah Ben I totally feel you on the walking problems. I have a whole bunch of problems with my feet and legs to begin with and these guys make it worse. I have a badly fallen arch on my left foot and some arthritis in my big toe joint. I can manage it pretty well with orthotics and good conscious thought of my gait but mdpv and apvp practically have me limping by the end of it. It makes my muscles so tight that I can't really compensate for the problems I have and it's just a runaway effect - next thing I know the pain is migrating all the way up my back and everything just gets tighter and tighter. I'm sure the constant lack of food and water doesn't help my cause a damn bit.
The vapor from these guys does strange things to the mouth. It's taken a while for the damage to become evident to my lungs but I'm starting to cough a whole shitload now. It seems that during a binge the constant barrage of vapor to the lungs dries them up something fierce and it takes a while for them to respond. They are definitely responding now though, I'm bringing up lots of mucous and shit. Actually it's become a pretty bad hacking cough rather suddenly. Gotta be some payback for putting so much of that caustic crap into my lungs and holding it in as long as possible. I noticed this morning when I was smoking my cigarettes after the worst of my vaping that I wasn't really blowing out much smoke on the exhale. Could be in my head but it seemed like the smoke was getting stuck in my coated lungs or something.
Ah well I'm gonna try and get some badly needed sleep. I'm already feeling a lot better now that I've had 12 hours or so to finally clear my head and get more or less reacquainted with a life that doesn't revolve around a piece of fucking foil.
Yeah Ben I totally feel you on the walking problems. I have a whole bunch of problems with my feet and legs to begin with and these guys make it worse. I have a badly fallen arch on my left foot and some arthritis in my big toe joint. I can manage it pretty well with orthotics and good conscious thought of my gait but mdpv and apvp practically have me limping by the end of it. It makes my muscles so tight that I can't really compensate for the problems I have and it's just a runaway effect - next thing I know the pain is migrating all the way up my back and everything just gets tighter and tighter. I'm sure the constant lack of food and water doesn't help my cause a damn bit.
The vapor from these guys does strange things to the mouth. It's taken a while for the damage to become evident to my lungs but I'm starting to cough a whole shitload now. It seems that during a binge the constant barrage of vapor to the lungs dries them up something fierce and it takes a while for them to respond. They are definitely responding now though, I'm bringing up lots of mucous and shit. Actually it's become a pretty bad hacking cough rather suddenly. Gotta be some payback for putting so much of that caustic crap into my lungs and holding it in as long as possible. I noticed this morning when I was smoking my cigarettes after the worst of my vaping that I wasn't really blowing out much smoke on the exhale. Could be in my head but it seemed like the smoke was getting stuck in my coated lungs or something.
Ah well I'm gonna try and get some badly needed sleep. I'm already feeling a lot better now that I've had 12 hours or so to finally clear my head and get more or less reacquainted with a life that doesn't revolve around a piece of fucking foil.
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Shambles
Bluelight Crew
Is what the peev thread is for, Quasi. The guts and the glory and all that. PM box is alwatys open too if ever of any assistance or just need a venting board
Ben So Furry
Bluelighter
Imagine what you'd look like to normal folk while in that state, limping, stinking, gaunt. I used to make videos of myself on my phone trying to talk and explain what I was going through and I could barely get a sentance out my face was all contorting and eyes darting all over the place. Once I had come back to reality I would delete them without ever watching them, I couldn't face seeing myself like that.
QuasiStoned
Bluelighter
Thanks Shambles . I've been toiling around the PV thread for a while now and I love your posts, you've got a way with words, I'm always genuinely interested in what you have to say. Your posts stand out to me as some of the most interesting. I'm always curious what you have to say.
Well I'm off to sleep, hasn't been nearly enough of that this week and I've got some catching up to do. I'm caught up on eating, I've been eating endlessly all day it seems to be the only thing that brings me much satisfaction early in the aftermath of a binge.
And Ben it's so funny you would say that about recording videos, I've done the same exact thing so I could have a record of why I shouldn't ever touch this shit. This morning after I ran out and had spent hours in an exhausted state I took a picture of my face. My pupils were huge, my eyes bugging out of my head. Cheeks sunken in too. I haven't looked at it since this morning but I hope I will the next time I start thinking about doing this again too soon. I had a loved one comment that I looked like a ghoul, boy did they ever nail it dead on.
. I've been toiling around the PV thread for a while now and I love your posts, you've got a way with words, I'm always genuinely interested in what you have to say. Your posts stand out to me as some of the most interesting. I'm always curious what you have to say.Well I'm off to sleep, hasn't been nearly enough of that this week and I've got some catching up to do. I'm caught up on eating, I've been eating endlessly all day it seems to be the only thing that brings me much satisfaction early in the aftermath of a binge.
And Ben it's so funny you would say that about recording videos, I've done the same exact thing so I could have a record of why I shouldn't ever touch this shit. This morning after I ran out and had spent hours in an exhausted state I took a picture of my face. My pupils were huge, my eyes bugging out of my head. Cheeks sunken in too. I haven't looked at it since this morning but I hope I will the next time I start thinking about doing this again too soon. I had a loved one comment that I looked like a ghoul, boy did they ever nail it dead on.
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Shambles
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