Now I've tried four different bactches of MDPV off four completely different vedors in separate countries. None of them were what I consider true MDPV. For reference, the 'real' peeves I got was from some guy in
*snip* (where he got it from in the first place however, is unknown)
The ones from
*another place* and
*another place* were the "brilliant white" variety, which were about 3-4 less times strong as the previous pro-sexual MDPV I tried and were overall crap. Threw the rest out after sampling a small but of both to test (well didn't really throw it out, rather passed it on to some people who I made fully aware of what it was the exact stiustaion aroud it and my thoughts on it, and I kept a small amount incase of future needs for testing what it actually is). The third batch which I was more hopeful about was from
*another* vendor, and was a more creamy color than white. But alas, after sampling it, its effects are much the same as the white bunk batches, ie, actute CNS stimulation, more dosgage needed, tollerence built up after only a very few small samples, need to redose still there despite not that many positives effects, and worst of all it made me pretty much impotent

Which was in stark contrast to the first MDPV I got, which made me the exact opposite of impotent, for many days one end infact
The only slight difference I noticed was that the stuff from
*snip* made me gurn, and quite badly too. Jaw muscles are still hurting today from all that jaw clenching. Only did 10mg, and a 8mg redose in the end. As I dont know what it is it.
And the fourth vendor (from
*snip*) turned out to be not active at all. I started at 0.1mg the first day, then 0.5mg the next day, then 1mg the next, then 3mg, then 6mg, and nothing at all even at 6mg. So I enquired to the vendor about this, and he said there has been a 'mistake' 8) and it was an inactive filler powder they had sent me. They did refund me though, so not all was lost. But they said they weren't stocking the meph anymore. So it was all a bit odd.
All this has made me start to think (as a chemistry noob bear in mind!) was the original usually tanned color MDPV really MDPV at-all but something else? If this is the case, all of these vendors (some of them
do have a
very good vendor reuptaion) are all infact selling real MDPV, but we just have wrong expectations about its effects due to the initial experiences we had on the first batch, which may have not actually have been MDPV. And this has lead to confusion in the wiki artiles, erowid dosages reports, various experiences, and various other things. I Think that F&B's previous posts in this thread may have ruled this out in some way... but to be frank they went straight over my head anyway! Pm sent F&B btw.
Could anyone point out why the idea in the above paragraph can not be right? (or more unlikely, why it may infact be right)