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MDPV Megathread 2 - Moderate Dosing Prevents Vitiation

yes haha, i actually love snorting the dirtier looking stuff, it feels like a real drug, in the way it hits hard when enough is snorted. i got pretty bad on it and i dont think i could ever go back to that stuff, my willpower is :!sh*t
 
I think that MDPV also possess some potential clinical efficacies for various useages, and wouldn't be surprised to see pharma picking it up soon and giving it a role in the stimulant branch of the pharmaceutical indusrty.

Perhaps the person behind the "tan" MDPV has sold his synthesis to big pharma after conducting a successful trial on the public labrats! :p

The only MDPV I've tried has been white or very faintly cream, I think both were different, at least from different production batches, but very much the same effect... I found both of them to be really pro-sexual aswell.

I know exactly what you mean about learning your lesson about dosage, it took me a while and had some scary experiences but now I find the stuff eminently enjoyable and not particularly compulsive. If I do begin to sense anxiety/jitters a very small dose of GBL (0.5ml) stops it very quickly before any really bad state of panic can occur.

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In an odd way their behaviour of not selling it easily anymore is irresponsbile, as the market has now been replaced by fake (maybe even contaminated) MDPV batches that could be dangerous.

I don't agree, the tan MDPV was as much of an unknown quantity and therefore risk as the white MDPV being sold now surely? Both could be dangerous :P The tan MDPV was also contaminated with pyrrolidine anyway wasn't it?

F&B's really interesting post previously to me (as a layman!) seems like a very likely explanation for the apparent change in the substance being sold as MDPV. For something so inexpensive and potent, makes sense surely to look for a variant which is still active (and subjectively very similar in bioassay) but uses cheaper/easier to obtain precursor, MDPV can't be the most profitable thing to produce with controlled precursors...

Perhaps there is a motive aswell to disguise such a slight change in order to still trade on the MDPV "brand", rather than present it as a new distinct substance which may be seen as novel and appeal to experimenters but not to people who want "real" MDPV (a la 4-fluoromethcathinone vs 4-methylmethcathinone)...
 
Perhaps the person behind the "tan" MDPV has sold his synthesis to big pharma after conducting a successful trial on the public labrats! :p

Interesting idea. Maybe its been queitly patented, and thus stopped being available. Though i'm sure theres another way it could find its way out to the public somehow.

If I do begin to sense anxiety/jitters a very small dose of GBL (0.5ml) stops it very quickly before any really bad state of panic can occur.

I use this too! But more like 2ml if i'm overstimulated, or 2,5 to knock me out :\

Dont get an overstimulation effect with most of the random white batches I've breifly sampled though, I got the most 'uncomfortable' overstimulation with the real tanned and horny stuff, which was combatted with a benzo and some GBL.

I don't agree, the tan MDPV was as much of an unknown quantity and therefore risk as the white MDPV being sold now surely? Both could be dangerous :P The tan MDPV was also contaminated with pyrrolidine anyway wasn't it?


Point taken. But we know what MDPV is chemically, the other batch could be (to be extreme) a similar but carcinogenic agent. Know one has a clue until its identified. I'd wager the sellers know what it really is, they're just not letting on for money resaons. I aint touching the white stuff again now at all till someone here I repsect proves theres REAL MDPV circling somewhere.
 
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I vaporized 8mg of that white last night just to see what happened. Hardly anything happened, apart from giving me a very slight and odd stimulation for a few minutes, a sore throat and wheezy breathing for five minutes. Left a dark brown non evaporatable residue. This was the creamy colored batch from europe, not white or tanned. Whatever it may be. Still dont think its peeves, standard dose for this one is about 10mg, which woulda really overstimulated me on real peeves. Lets hope there weren't too many contaminants in it, specially since I vaped it 8o

I'm definately getting rid of the white crap now. And whichever vendor or pharma starts selling the real MDPV is in for a hell of a profit (and yes, I know your likely reading this thread Mr vendor, so get a bloody move on and stop selling fake crap :p)
 
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I aint touching the white stuff again now at all till someone here I repsect proves theres REAL MDPV circling somewhere.

haha, just before someone else points out I broke this promise, I'll do it first :D
 
Chemicals don't just drop out of existence like that; of course the tan MDPV is still being made and circulating, it just depends where you're looking doesn't it.

I only smoked it once and it hit like a train, but felt too moresome and shit on the lungs, so never again. Heh, it's one of my favourite drugs at the moment, really hope there isn't horrible impurities in the brown stuff which is AIDSing me softly...
 
Chemicals don't just drop out of existence like that; of course the tan MDPV is still being made and circulating, it just depends where you're looking doesn't it.

I know, your right. Thats why I find it odd that the most popular batch of a drug is impossible to find atm, yet crap versions are easily found within minutes.
 
what is your favoured ROA?

I refuse to snort it anymore, don't think it's precise enough, and have had a surprise before when trying to clear out my nose and obviously inhaled some material that was stuck in the nose, giving me a dose without warning hours after I was down and thoroughly ruining my evening.

How much do you use if you are vapourising it?
 
god, im glad i havent had the stuff in over a year
i remember the anxiety i got from taking it, took ages to recover (thanks to my doc for the prescription of proprepnol)
 
Yeah, it left me feeling pretty depressed after I was on it.

Haven't had any in ages, can't see myself doing it regularly as I hate having to rely on benzos to comedown and the urge to redose on this stuff is a pain in the bum.
 
Now I've tried four different bactches of MDPV off four completely different vedors in separate countries. None of them were what I consider true MDPV. For reference, the 'real' peeves I got was from some guy in *snip* (where he got it from in the first place however, is unknown)

The ones from *another place* and *another place* were the "brilliant white" variety, which were about 3-4 less times strong as the previous pro-sexual MDPV I tried and were overall crap. Threw the rest out after sampling a small but of both to test (well didn't really throw it out, rather passed it on to some people who I made fully aware of what it was the exact stiustaion aroud it and my thoughts on it, and I kept a small amount incase of future needs for testing what it actually is). The third batch which I was more hopeful about was from *another* vendor, and was a more creamy color than white. But alas, after sampling it, its effects are much the same as the white bunk batches, ie, actute CNS stimulation, more dosgage needed, tollerence built up after only a very few small samples, need to redose still there despite not that many positives effects, and worst of all it made me pretty much impotent :( Which was in stark contrast to the first MDPV I got, which made me the exact opposite of impotent, for many days one end infact =D

The only slight difference I noticed was that the stuff from *snip* made me gurn, and quite badly too. Jaw muscles are still hurting today from all that jaw clenching. Only did 10mg, and a 8mg redose in the end. As I dont know what it is it.

And the fourth vendor (from *snip*) turned out to be not active at all. I started at 0.1mg the first day, then 0.5mg the next day, then 1mg the next, then 3mg, then 6mg, and nothing at all even at 6mg. So I enquired to the vendor about this, and he said there has been a 'mistake' 8) and it was an inactive filler powder they had sent me. They did refund me though, so not all was lost. But they said they weren't stocking the meph anymore. So it was all a bit odd.


All this has made me start to think (as a chemistry noob bear in mind!) was the original usually tanned color MDPV really MDPV at-all but something else? If this is the case, all of these vendors (some of them do have a very good vendor reuptaion) are all infact selling real MDPV, but we just have wrong expectations about its effects due to the initial experiences we had on the first batch, which may have not actually have been MDPV. And this has lead to confusion in the wiki artiles, erowid dosages reports, various experiences, and various other things. I Think that F&B's previous posts in this thread may have ruled this out in some way... but to be frank they went straight over my head anyway! Pm sent F&B btw.

Could anyone point out why the idea in the above paragraph can not be right? (or more unlikely, why it may infact be right)
 
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sorry for my long posts btw. I dont post here often but mainly on other forums (where there are less people fully knowledgeable about these things) so when I do revistit here occassionally I tend to dump a couple of weeks thoughts into one long post :)

If u cant be bothered to read it ..... then ...... dont. Dir. Just dont write a post moaning about post lengths like some whiny people on some forums do, because I'll likely write an even longer response to that one. You have been warned!
 
No worries about the long post phillip :D MDPV has that effect :)

Please avoid mentioning where your different vendors are based as some of them are a dead giveaway sourcing-wise.

I think the general concesus now is that the tan MDPV hadn't been purified as much, and the white stuff is indeed MDPV. I've only ever had the white MDPV at my disposal so could never compare the two. If I'm wrong about the white, someone please correct me :D
 
The tan stuff is insanely strong, I think I got a bit on my fingers the other day and it was giving me jaw tension (which is always does) and a bit of energy. This is stuff which is active at a fraction of a milligram, I have a hard time believing this white stuff is anywhere near as strong... it's either a weird synthesis of MDPV or a different chemical entirely. F&B did that test with the "smell" and the white stuff didn't react as it should...

People have been taking the tan stuff as the original MDPV for a couple of years now, I don't see how an inferior replacement product can be seen as the "real" stuff. I am however no chemist, so yeahhh, apologies if i'm rambling rubbish! =D

Oh the PV temptation, it's past midday and exams are done :o %) :D
 
I am going to put my freakish body chemistry to the test... by trying to nap on PV, i'm fucking wired so it probably wont work, and cider shall have to do... :D :o
 
I am going to put my freakish body chemistry to the test... by trying to nap on PV, i'm fucking wired so it probably wont work, and cider shall have to do... :D :o


You wont be able to, if its the tanned! You will HAVE to have some benzo's or GBL I have found, or it can take a day or two. And you'll be very tempted to redose. But dont, the after effects are really not worth it.
 
Okay, so these batches are getting even weirder now! I've just sampled YET another white batch which my friend got about a month ago from somewhere, and at a dosage of 8mg its given me visuals. Like the sort of wavy effect your would get from a lot 2c-b-fly experience, or sort of similar to a threshold (~3-5mg) 2c-I dosage. Feel very stimulated too though, normal BMP raised, feel chatty, etc. Have a tight chest too though, so no chance of a redose.

Very odd. Thiis is, officially, the last time I try any batches fomr a vendor I do not know in person, or unless I have been assured it is real MDPV from someone who I personally trust. Coz ingesting random chems really Isn't what I expected myself to end up doing when trying to re-aqiuire this one.

(didn't start at 8mg btw that would be silly for a random chemical, started at 0.5 and doubled each time over many hours of waiting patiently for effects to show)
 
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I am going to put my freakish body chemistry to the test... by trying to nap on PV, i'm fucking wired so it probably wont work, and cider shall have to do... :D :o

So, if you have been lucky enough to aquire the genuine MDPV, how long did it take until the porn came out and the inevitable started happening =D

Happens every bloody time for me, no matter ho hard I try to resist :) Even harder if I have a girlfriend at the time too.
 
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