• 🇬🇧󠁿 🇸🇪 🇿🇦 🇮🇪 🇬🇭 🇩🇪 🇪🇺
    European & African
    Drug Discussion

    Welcome Guest!
    Posting Rules Bluelight Rules
  • EADD Moderators: Pissed_and_messed | Shinji Ikari

MDPV Megathread 2 - Moderate Dosing Prevents Vitiation

phillop said:
I recently spoke to the UK vendor selling the white variety MDPV enquiring about his product and whether it was the white or tanned variety. Before it was the white variety, which I found nicely stimulating but lacked the potent aphrodisiac qualities of the tanned batches I've had before. And this was his reply:



So if anyones got some white, give it a go and see if he's telling the truth. Or he could just be saying this to try to sell more of his product. Hard to tell until someone verifies this.

Not sure if it makes sense, chemistry aint my expertise for sure.
Click to expand...

This is well interesting! Cheers for posting that mate. Tried both the brown and white batches and like them both. I never really got these intense desires to penetrate something from either batch :p Don't get me wrong, I'd have a wank but my sex-drive doesn't go through the roof or anything. The brown one did feel like a bit of a different buzz but this could easily be down to placebo effect.

I'm going to give the method above a try, will only use a little PV as it sounds well weird and mysterious but if it all goes tits up, I can just drink it!
 
Ascii said:
This is well interesting! Cheers for posting that mate.
Click to expand...
(nice nickname, btw ;) )

That's interesting?? That's probably more of a bullshit, i suppose. Not to offend anyone in here, but i really don't see any reason why this bad white stuff should turn into super potent tan stuff over night when left in water.

That guy fooled you.
Following his "instructions", all what's happening is the user ending up putting his peevee into some dirty tap water (maybe even in a dirty flask) with dust and crap falling into it over night.
If you goto and evaporate 24 hours later - who won't expect his peevee to become tan (aka dirty)? This will work with nearly any white substance, but i have my doubts that potency will increase by doing so.

I'd bet my large ascii peanus that this procedure, done under lab conditions, would produce the same, white, bad peevee you had before. So don't waste your stuff. ;)


Btw: my peevee is gone today... i thought i had some more left, so i could give it a nice, last buzz. Now i'm kind of disappointed and thinking about placing an order again. Hehe.
 
Last edited:
Haha, I did say the idea sounded a little weird and mysterious :p

Anyway, I used too little water and it evaporated over 12 hours anyway. My PV is still white but the only thing that seems to have changed is that it is now really smells a little more lol, oh and it looks a little crystally! I'm not sure of why the MDPV would turn brown or any other substance if dissolved in tap water? I mean I can understand that random bits may fall into it but surely that wouldn't make it turn brown. I didn't think it would increase the potency, just that it may somehow degrade :o
 
I used some of (what I assume) is that same PV over the last few days dissolved in tap water and stored at room temp in a sealed HDPE bottle, and noticed no change in potency or character of the effects atall.
 
Aye. As expected. ^^

Ascii (feels like kind of monologizing, hehe):
If you just use a glass and tap water, you'll probably have enough impurities mixing with your solution to make an amount of say 2-500mg appear brownish after evaporating. This is the best way to turn nice clear crystals into a dark, glueish substance. ;)

So: re-order or re-sist? If i ordered today, peevee would arrive in about 2-3 days. But maybe it's not bad to have a little break from peevee-usage, although it didn't do any damage yet compared to what e.g. amphetamine/meth would have done. At least i don't feel any, hehe.
 
Hah, yeah "just add water" does seem a bit too simplistic, maybe that vendor's been working on his alchemy skills? :o 8)

I have a sample of this white stuff as well as the stuff i'm more used to, but i've not tried it. Not really sure if I want to bother really, doesn't really sound fantastic, but we'll see. Definitely find the stuff somewhat hard to resist for periods of time... :D
 
whoremoaning said:
Yeah makes no sense that it should turn into a more aphrodisiac/potent mdpv, does sound like vendor bullshit really.
Click to expand...


It is, total vendor bollocks - the brown stuff is the hydrochloride salt; the brown colour is due to an increased amount of the impurity pyrrolidine. On a different note, I recently obtained some almost pure white stuff (a very slight, creamy white colour) that gave the right smell after contact with hot permanganate solution. So basically it's peevee that purer than the tan stuff (less pyrrolidine)
 
The stuff I have now (uk vendor), dissolved in tap water (50mg in 10ml), has a faint odour reminiscent of cloves/cinnamon, and the material in the bag since being exposed to air quite a bit over the last few days has a similar smell.

The (white) stuff I had before from a different vendor quickly had the reported smell (potato tuber lol) about it when it had been exposed to air quite a bit over a few days, I don't notice that yet with the sample I have now.
 
^ Now this is pure conjecture on my behalf, but the cloves/cinnamon smell makes me think it's got another substitution pattern in the phenyl ring as a lot of spices derive their oudour from different substitutions on the ring of allylbenzene (4-methoxyphenyl giving aniseed, 3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl giving sassafras, 3,-methoxy-4,5-methylenedioxyphenyl giving nutmeg/mace etc) That it might be 3-methoxy-4-methylpyrovalerone, which is derived from the allylbenzene derivative eugenol, which gives cloves their local anaesthetic activity. 3-methoxy-4-methylmethamphetamine is not that dissimilar to MDMA in activity, so from a 3,4-methylenedioxy derivative to a 3-methoxy-4-methyl one might seem a logical step that doesn't require the use of monitored precursor (just about all 3,4-methylenedioxy compounds are included in the UNs list of drug precursor chemicals), which because of it's status is way more expensive than say the 3-methoxy-4-methyl equivalents.

That would seem a valid route of investigation if I had to find an alternative for MDPV (one among many)
 
My white MDPV must be packed with pyrrolidine, as it sticks of semen! I've asked a few friends for their independant analysis haha and the verdict was definately spermy. When dissolved in water this smell is really pungent.

If it's pyrrolidine that made the last batches of MDPV brown, then how come this stuff isn't brown if it's got a strong smell of pyrrolidine? Strangely enough, my brown MDPV never smelt like jizz at all but like very bitter soil!
 
I think maybe if you take enough right out of the gate....you will experience what I'll call a "unmistakble high". Then perhaps after that it won't take you as much because then you know what you're looking for.
 
I find the brown PV i've had doesn't smell of very much, maybe a bit earthy yeah, maybe slightly semen-y, neither smell is strong enough to be particularly distinctive. I don't think I have a crap sense of smell really, it's good enough.

Had a bit and feel rather nice and chilled actually %)
 
Suppose after time, a person could find the amount they work the best on physiologically?
That was a good comparison with the white girl. Which i have a shitty come down w/ as well.
 
The brown colour is due to the organic chemists nemesis - amorphous brown tar. Don't ask me why, but side reactions always seem to produce an amorphous brown tar. Basically the tan/brown stuff hadn't been purified that much (pyrrolidine is an utter bastid to separate out from peevee)
 
Thanks to StoneHappyMonday for giving me helpful hints via PM, to which I am unable to respond directly due to low post count.

I read a big part of the previous megathread when I was looking into this substance, but I neglected to read this thread until after I had bought a gram from a reputable Iberian supplier. I got the white powder. Imagine my disappointment coming here for administration tips only to discover that I got the bunk stuff.

But after a few days of using moderate doses of this mystery substance, I have to say I rather like it. As others have noted, the euphoria you get from this stuff is mild and there's no real aphrodisiac quality. What there is instead is a solid, useful stimulant. I'm substantially more sociable; I play the drums like Animal; I'm more productive (which is very good, as I work freelance); I don't feel sleepy during the day; and I haven't noticed any suppression of appetite (important, as I'm naturally very skinny). Pretty neat! Also, I haven't really noticed any urge to binge, probably because the peak is nothing to write home about. I'd still certainly like to try the tan stuff at some point, but initial disappointment aside, I'm pretty pleased with the white. So far this stuff makes for an excellent "working chemical."
 
Imperial Tacohead said:
I have to say I rather like it. As others have noted, the euphoria you get from this stuff is mild and there's no real aphrodisiac quality. What there is instead is a solid, useful stimulant.
Click to expand...

But whats the point if your not spending countless hours in erotic bliss and trying to shag ever girl that comes near you? (or every girl you give it to trying to shag you for that matter =D ) Thats the real interesting thing about this compound. After learning my lesson with dosaging the hard way before, if I ever chance upon the aphrodisiac variety again I will be extremely cautious with dosing and how much I do. This one is to be saved for one off occasions only.

I can safely say that *proper* MDPV is the best drug I have ever experienced (maybe second to some 2c-'x chems). And my girlfriend would agree too, for sure :)

What I would really like to know is how the distributors that were selling the aphrodisiac variety have suddently shut up and (seemingly) vanished, when there is such a large customer demand for this product. In an odd way their behaviour of not selling it easily anymore is irresponsbile, as the market has now been replaced by fake (maybe even contaminated) MDPV batches that could be dangerous. They should do us all a favor and re-introduce it to the market so the fake varieties all vanish. Which they soon would, as they are pure bunk compared to the real thing.


If I was the manufacturer/producer with the correct MDPV that everyone wants I'd be singing from the rooftops about it. And I'm 100% sure the original producers/manufacturers of the real MDPV have been reading the threads on it here at bluelight, as the first thing that pops up in google when you type in MDPV is the wikipedia page on peeves, which gets nearly all its main references from the respectable material on this site and this thread.

So, if your reading this now, *crosses fingers* Please help out and try to stop these black market versions of MDPV becoming more widespread, as no one knows what they are and what side effects they may have. At least with real MDPV people know what they are getting, and not just chemical X from mysterious vendor X with potential side effect X.

I'm testing some of the white batch tonite, which I brought from another (different) vendor online now, hoping it would be the real thing. And it fucking sucks :( Definately not peeves. Creamy color, its apparently "99% purity", what it actually is thats exactly 99% pure beats me. It aint MDPV.

I think that MDPV also possess some potential clinical efficacies for various useages, and wouldn't be surprised to see pharma picking it up soon and giving it a role in the stimulant branch of the pharmaceutical indusrty. Maybe as a concentration aid in small amounts, or an alternative to aphrodisiac products like viagra if it proves sucessful for this in any trials they may conduct.


Does ANYONE have the aphrodisiac variety at the mo? Or has it literally completely vanished for good?


The people who make this fake MDPV must know its not true stuff. Infact, does anyone think they even know what it actually is they are producing at all? Or are they just proper scam artists selling any old comtaminated chems in the aim of getting their customers slightly high and fork over cash?


I think we need to ask some people with access to some GCMS equiptment or similar (anyone here on bluelight do this sort of thing?), as this white batch is getting extremely popular recently, and is now available from countless vendors alongside all manner of herbal highs and party pills, and I'm getting ever more concerned about what it actually is and whats its consequences are. I'd be happy to supply a test sample of the white batch to anyone with the equiptment, if thats within the rules.

Are you still reading? Am I still writing! ... Just checking.
Crikey, what a post that turned out to be!
 
Last edited:
Looks fairly coherent to me, I'll have to check tomorrow though to be sure I guess :)
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top