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MDPV Megathread 2 - Moderate Dosing Prevents Vitiation

MrM said:
Thanks for the info. How do you usually prefer to take the stuff and why (orally, smoked etc?).

I'm just recovering from my first experience with this stuff. Seemed like quite a nice high but next time i think i'll take a higher initial dose (than 6mg) and redose less. I don't feel too bad after 6 hours sleep though
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Dissolved in water, oral syringe, arse.

Because F and B told me to.

It works. And its the most sensible way of weighing out/measuring out accurate doses of a drug where you are using silly small amounts. *

First time I took it I did 5mg. Didn't notice hardly anything. That's why i do 8-10 now and it works nicely for me. But as F and B also said, its a bit of a learned high. Don't be surprised if your second/third etc attempts are better than the first and don't be afraid to take a little more than you did first time. 8-10mg is fine.

* (I do, however, admit to getting addicted to shoving things up my arse and changing my sexuality).
 
Iv always wanted to try plugging, but I seem to be constipated every time the opportunity comes my way. Even if I wasn't, there always something left in there. It just hard to clean my rear end out entirely. Don't have them enema thingies so...

Does anyone know the oral bio availability(or the bio of all methods)? Any info is greatly appreciated
 
StoneHappyMonday said:
I'm sure he will but in the meantime...I have a mate in HK who regularly visits China. To my surprise he told me there is a big scene in Beijing and anything can be obtained in clubs etc.

Always surprises me the level of drug taking in countries with the death penalty. My mate is actually from Singapore and tells many hair-raising tails of using smack there. Rather him than me, but his stories are entertaining.
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Forgot to answer this in my last post. The part about anything can be obtained in clubs is incorrect. Im in Beijing and the usual drugs you can get at clubs are basically just E, Speed, K and probably coke. Heroin should also be available.

Psychedelics are very hard to find. Dont expect to find a dealer very easily. The more exotic/rare chemicals are usually impossible to get at clubs. Though I heard RCs are becoming more popular in Taiwan and Hong kong, so maybe theyr coming to mainland soon.
 
Dxmmonster said:
Forgot to answer this in my last post. The part about anything can be obtained in clubs is incorrect. Im in Beijing and the usual drugs you can get at clubs are basically just E, Speed, K and probably coke. Heroin should also be available.

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That was what 'anything' meant. Obviously more obscure drugs are going to be harder to come by.
 
How do people find mdpv combines with other drugs?

GBL, Alcohol, weed, mephedrone, mdma, anything else you've tried?

Also how long do people like to wait between sessions on this substance? Things like mdma and mephedrone i wouldn't want to take more often than once a week at most or i'd start to feel pretty worn down. How do you find mdpv measures up?
 
MrM said:
How do people find mdpv combines with other drugs?

GBL, Alcohol, weed, mephedrone, mdma, anything else you've tried?

Also how long do people like to wait between sessions on this substance? Things like mdma and mephedrone i wouldn't want to take more often than once a week at most or i'd start to feel pretty worn down. How do you find mdpv measures up?
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I find it combines well, although due to feeling "weakened" from a pretty heavy session a few months ago I have been reluctant to mix it with other stims and really push things. It's only 4 months later that my chest/heart feels pretty much back to normal...

PV goes well with alcohol though, and dope, and ketamine... think I took it with G once to chill me out, and t'was nice. I'm wary of meph anyway, but I think it's a combination you don't want to push too far really; some of the above posts seem to confirm that. :| :(

I find it.... tempting. I have never stayed up for more than a day because of it, and never done the multiple day thing, pretty glad I haven't, too! I try not to take it more than once a week really, but due to being a student n not having a job, and finding it useful for getting stuff done I maybe take it more frequently than that. I don't find the comedowns that bad, that's the thing; sometimes they're barely noticeable unless you push things. :)
 
I have found out what MDPV shows up as on drug tests *drum roll please* using an extended test kit with dosages over two days the test showed positive for TCA tricyclic antidepressants.
 
Hey ya! =)

I've been at the drug store right now. I ordered one drug test for amphetamine and one for MDMA - tomorrow i can goto and pick them up.
I read lots of opinions whether or not MDPV would show up in a urine drug test; especially giving a false positive for MDMA. If i remember correctly, a certain user in here has already mentioned that peevee-use two days ago does not give a false positive for amphetamine at least.

So i will do these tests both tomorrow in the morning. The past days i only consumed MDPV and Buprenorphine (last dose: some minutes ago [bad: we have some 36°C outside and taking uppers makes me sweat like a <insert funny allegoric word here>... that's beyond anything funny! ^^]), so there's less chances for any other contamination affecting this test.

I'll post the results tomorrow, maybe i'll also send an email to erowid as they don't have no testing vault yet for MDPV.


Curious,
ascii.cnt


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clara said:
I have found out what MDPV shows up as on drug tests *drum roll please* using an extended test kit with dosages over two days the test showed positive for TCA tricyclic antidepressants.
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Did you mean an extended drug test _only_ testing for TCA? Meaning, did you also test for any other substances and it only showed up for antidepressants or did you only test for TCA and the result was a positive one?
 
Dxmmonster said:
Forgot to answer this in my last post. The part about anything can be obtained in clubs is incorrect. Im in Beijing and the usual drugs you can get at clubs are basically just E, Speed, K and probably coke. Heroin should also be available.

Psychedelics are very hard to find. Dont expect to find a dealer very easily. The more exotic/rare chemicals are usually impossible to get at clubs. Though I heard RCs are becoming more popular in Taiwan and Hong kong, so maybe theyr coming to mainland soon.
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That is interesting, I didn't expect there to be so much of a drug scene in China. I always perceived it as being a relatively conservative country. How much tolerance do the general public, and government have towards drug use? I think I'm right in assuming the penalties are harsher than in some European countries.

You mentioned heroin is available in clubs. Does the same social stigma surround heroin in China as it does in other parts of the world? Are there many heroin addicts in China?

Is your speed amphetamine or methamphetamine?

Do most people look down on those who take drugs?
 
ascii.cnt said:
Hey ya! =)
Did you mean an extended drug test _only_ testing for TCA? Meaning, did you also test for any other substances and it only showed up for antidepressants or did you only test for TCA and the result was a positive one?
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The drug test kit was extended TO include TCA, it also included a full spectrum of illicit drugs, and perscription drugs TCA was the only positive. It will be great to hear your results too!
 
Uh that sounds great. At least it makes me sleep better tonight, definately. ;)

I got to go take my Subutex prescription for the next week tomorrow, so this was the trigger for me to actually go and buy those two tests. I surely wanted to know if it gives a false positive just for the sake of knowing, but it was as usual in life: if there's no absolute need to do a certain thing, you probably won't do it. ;)

But anyway, i'll post the results tomorrow. I just hope that the chemnist at the drug store doesn't tell me one of these "couldn't be delivered, sorry"-stories as i heard them a couple of times in the past. But i think that store is kind of reliable, i guess.

By the way: i ordered those pee-drugtests. And my peevee (pee-vee, hehe) is one of the white batches from Europe (proven not to be pure at all, but i'm quite sure it at least contains peevee). Just some additional information.

So, thanks for making me sleep better and things. :)


Over and out,
ascii.


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The drug test kit was extended TO
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Sorry, what's "extended TO"? Google didn't help me to find out at all. I think you also mean these standard urine tests?
 
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Tryptamite said:
That is interesting, I didn't expect there to be so much of a drug scene in China. I always perceived it as being a relatively conservative country. How much tolerance do the general public, and government have towards drug use? I think I'm right in assuming the penalties are harsher than in some European countries.

You mentioned heroin is available in clubs. Does the same social stigma surround heroin in China as it does in other parts of the world? Are there many heroin addicts in China?

Is your speed amphetamine or methamphetamine?

Do most people look down on those who take drugs?
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The penalties are pretty harsh but if your rich/well connected then you can usually get away with most minor offenses. Most of the common illegal drugs(coke, H, MDMA, weed) have the same stigma.

So if you ask someone whether weed or methamphetamine is more harmful, he/she would probably say that they are the same. This is because early on in the educational system, the scare tactic is implemented. Disgusting/grotesque pictures of AIDs infected drug addicts are shown to little kids. Basically telling them, if you use drugs(any drug), that's what your gonna look like.
And it's worked pretty well, many of my Chinese friends stay far away from all illegal drugs. Weed/hash is never encountered in 99% of all Chinese middle and high schools.
But most Chinese dont know what weed looks like or smells like, so usually people wont get freaked out or call the police if your smoking a J out in public(obviously not a good idea).

I was once with two friends smoking a couple of fat joints in a local park. 5 or so police officers walked by right in front of us and they didnt do shit. One of my friends even smiled/winked at one of them while taking a hit.
They definitely saw us and the joint but either because of our foreign looks or because they didnt know what hash smelled like, they didn't do anything. It still scared us at that time.
 
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Hi,

short mail (from mobile phone):
MDPV does NOT show up for Amph/MDMA.

More detai s later.



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I was posting from my mobile phone from university and i had a complete, nice and structured text ready-to-post (using a virtual keyboard on a HTC Touch - THAT'S exhausting :\ ) which was gone due to some out-of-memory-error. But well, the details:

I have been using MDPV the past 2-3 weeks, more or less daily with a dose range of 10 to 30mgs per day. The peevee was the white one which is said to at least contain peevee, but it's definitely impure.
I drug-tested this morning some two hours after getting out of bed, last MDPV dose was about 16-18 hours ago. The drug test stripes were manufactured by a company called "gabControl" and i got one "AMP" test (representing amphetamines [the lady at the drug store thought that "AMP" is supposed to mean "ampules" when searching in the online catalogue, hehe]) and one "MDMA" test (representing MDMA ;) ).

So i went and tested myself and BOTH tests showed TWO clear, red lines meaning the test is NEGATIVE.


Summary:
With the above-mentioned habit of use, testing methods and so on, MDPV does NOT show up in urine. It's giving neither a false-positive for amphetamines nor does it for MDMA.
Assuredness, finally. Great. =)


Greets,
ascii.cnt
 
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