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MDPV Megathread 2 - Moderate Dosing Prevents Vitiation

^ Interesting.

It gives me jaw n neck tension DonQ, and I find magnesium helps with that, as usual. :) Headaches are trickier, i've had them a few times, hard to get rid of those!
 
Well, around the 32 hour mark I started with a bit of nausea, and it didn't go too well after that to be honest. Got to sleep about 2 hours after my last vaped dose too, without much crash considering.

I managed around 40 hours of constant work requiring a lot of brain power though! Very impressed. I've never had another substance that has suited that situation as well!

Shambles - I definately turned into a bit of a spaced wreck for fleeting moments, but I think that was dose and fatigue to be honest. I don't even want to think about how much I took to be honest, but each dose crept up in size, even though I was primarily using it simply to stay awake. You're right about the tainted ring around the outside of the vaped area on foil with this stuff, but I honestly can't remember how the last looked.

Oh and by the way, no aphrodisiac qualities at all to be honest for me with either batch I've tried. Speed dick in fact, and I usually have a huge sexual appetite.


Right, needs me an early night!
 
addman3 said:
I spoke to one of the manufacturers and he said that the white mdpv is mdpv hcl whereas the tan mdpv is freebase and quickly degrades into that super strong pervert powder. Not exactly evidence but what does everyone think?

btw. that is one of the people at a chinese synth company, not a vendor
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I would also like to hear everyones thoughts on this..
 
addman3 said:
I spoke to one of the manufacturers and he said that the white mdpv is mdpv hcl whereas the tan mdpv is freebase and quickly degrades into that super strong pervert powder. Not exactly evidence but what does everyone think?

btw. that is one of the people at a chinese synth company, not a vendor
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Well he's talking bollocks as the tan stuff is the hydrochloride salt (MDPV freebases has piss poor water solubility). The one batch of white stuff I did a little test on ages ago (hot KMnO4 soln) didn't produce the same result as the tan stuff
 
addman3 said:
I spoke to one of the manufacturers and he said that the white mdpv is mdpv hcl whereas the tan mdpv is freebase and quickly degrades into that super strong pervert powder.
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Was "super strong pervert powder" the exact term he used or did he actually say what it would supposedly degrade into :p

Could this post be of any relevance http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showpost.php?p=3309515&postcount=30 ?

I would really like to know what's going on with these apparently subjectively quite different substances before taking the plunge :\
 
I may be wrong, but I have a sneaking suspicion that some unscrupulous types have probably had peevee without the methylenedioxy ring synthed as anything with a 3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl structure is becoming more difficult to obtain/more expensive. Think. they know they're dealing with druggie types, so why not cut a few corners (pharmacology doesn't work like that though)
 
fastandbulbous said:
I may be wrong, but I have a sneaking suspicion that some unscrupulous types have probably had peevee without the methylenedioxy ring synthed as anything with a 3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl structure is becoming more difficult to obtain/more expensive. Think. they know they're dealing with druggie types, so why not cut a few corners (pharmacology doesn't work like that though)
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Thanks f&b. Although sometimes the technical stuff goes way over my head, I have found your posts to be eloquent and informative. Consequently, I have enjoyed some new experiences with sensible use of this substance. However, having read that you have concerns about "unscrupulous types' involved, I've become a little bit worried. Am I being naive in assuming that the efficient, professional and, I must say, caring approach of my vendor, is a good indicator of the quality of their products? My recent adventure has been with a light tan coloured fine powder.
 
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^ Seems kosher - the tan coloured stuff is the only one that pushes all thebuttons.

Like everything else, once it looks like theree's serious money to be made, vagabonds and charatans come rushing in to separate people from their money. How else do you explain abysmal pills & the dreaded soap bar hash?
 
Well, without the methylenedioxy it should be a bit better (or less worse) for the brain, correct?

I don't get the "pushing the buttons" anyway. MDPV is nice, but it doesn't really push my buttons. Tan stuff btw, from two different batches. Wish it did :(
 
fastandbulbous said:
I may be wrong, but I have a sneaking suspicion that some unscrupulous types have probably had peevee without the methylenedioxy ring synthed as anything with a 3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl structure is becoming more difficult to obtain/more expensive. Think. they know they're dealing with druggie types, so why not cut a few corners (pharmacology doesn't work like that though)
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If there's a genuine financial incentive for them to do that without letting on about it, the legal implications for someone importing these products from abroad unwittingly aren't funny atall :\ Not so bad with MDPV but methylone for example....
 
Like everything else, once it looks like theree's serious money to be made, vagabonds and charatans come rushing in to separate people from their money. How else do you explain abysmal pills & the dreaded soap bar hash?[/QUOTE]

Too true.. plus ça change!
 
Well, I got hold of some and it's not tan or beige, more of an off white. Haven't had a chance to try it properly yet as I'll need to put it into solution to dose it accurately, but I gummed a tiny tiny bit and noticed a bit of a feeling of alertness and a subtle mood lift.

Should 250mg dissolve into 25ml of water happily enough?
 
^^indeed Ceres with this white stuff, it is surprisingly hard not to redose :\

i diluted my 500mg in 1000ml so that i could dose orally just by taking a shot glass minus a little bit to get a decent dose when i had it. Didn't fancy plugging it.

A few hours ago i found the baggy that had my mdpv in before i diluted it and a week after flushed and there was still a little amount stuck to the sides so i licked my finger and then scraped the bag and then sucked my finger again. Cant be too much of a dose because there wasnt very much at all left on the bag, and i scraped most of it into the solution before. but i am certainly feeling the good parts of it again :) Added bonus is that there is no possible way to redose =D
 
ah cool, I'm going to use 25ml water just because I have an empty 30ml HDPE bottle that had GBL in it. Is it essential to keep it in the fridge or will it survive ok in the sealed bottle for a while? I suppose vodka might be a better choice.
 
i tried it this morning after being up all night, thought it was pretty interesting, but odd how when it wore off there was quite a crash, emotionally speaking, despite the fact I didn't feel particularly euphoric or anything on it. Think I may have taken slightly too much, had a bit of anxiety going on, shallow breathing etc.
 
yeah i know about the shallow breathing, and sometimes a really sharp breath that feels as though you've just been scared by someone but nothing has happened, its just the breathing :|
Ive found that mixing some alcohol with it on the comedown helps a lot with the anxiety issues. Whilst up though i am amazed at how anxiety free it seems to be for a stimulant :D
 
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