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MDPV Megathread 2 - Moderate Dosing Prevents Vitiation

Wow. At last I've felt PV's potential. Those wee 1-3mg were necessary due to work commitments. I have a few days off so last night I went to 10mg oral. It was fantastic. Energised, horny and happy. A low dose hypnotic (Zopiclone) at 2am sent me into nodland. This morning felt great and went for a cycle. Now 2pm had a wee line and I'm back to how I felt last night. I sense its fiendishness but think I can resist. This is wonderful. Have a great weekend everyone.
 
wow!! amazing stuff!=D had the most amazing afternoon- i mean really fuck me=D just splendid.
 
LOL, i wouldn't say it was either=D sort of a browney white colour i guess ( i know it's awful but i just snort, i don't spend time inspecting my droogs=D)
but bloody hell i am in utter love with this.
mdpv and a couple of doses of g and it was sheer heaven. could easily go again but think my body needs food and drink (plus my lady parts need a rest=D). it was sheer bliss and amazing though=D can't stop smiling!!!!! beautiful world beautiful drug=D
 
Riklet said:
What with all the stuff coming out above, it made me view it with a bit more respect actually, it's a powerful n interesting drug, didn't realise it would bring out such emotion n connectedness with my family.
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Meeh... i got the ("the"? i'm still not sure if it's the same white stuff everybody in here is talking about) white stuff and i got quite the same kind of experience as you described.
Constant euphoria (not that kind of overwhelming one like MDMA produces, but it seems kind of more "stable"... hard to describe) and a feeling of the need to talk about anything with people around me.

But from time to time i also get those anxious rushes where my muscles are hard as fuck (indeed.... had a look at my calves after running some 300m to reach my bus in time and it looked like some super-duper-anabolics-hardcore-user's legs), my heart beating and myself just looking around in a psychotic way.
So my experience is that maybe set/setting might have some importance when using peevee, although it's just a stim. But i can't see no other way of explaining why it produces different (even contrary) experiences while using the same dose.
Initially, i still use some 3-5 mgs which also keep me awake/alerted/happy for some 3-4 hours. I would be very curious about the tan stuff, as i've never had it but find the white one very cool...


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/me wishes a good rest to happyus' lady parts, hehe. ^^
Know that problem, although i don't have no "lady parts". ;)


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When smoking the peevee, i definately realize that there are two different substances in there: when heating the powder on a foil, there comes a first smoke which i inhale and everything is fine. Then the residue on the foil gets some kind of reddish while still heating, but there's no smoke coming up for some seconds of constant heating... when the flame is directly under the residue, it takes about 5 seconds until the rest gets to become smoke.
Maybe i'll have a look if that can be separated somehow. Would be good to 1) see the relation of both substances and 2) see how each works when not combined.
 
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happyus said:
LOL, i wouldn't say it was either=D sort of a browney white colour i guess ( i know it's awful but i just snort, i don't spend time inspecting my droogs=D)
but bloody hell i am in utter love with this.
mdpv and a couple of doses of g and it was sheer heaven. could easily go again but think my body needs food and drink (plus my lady parts need a rest=D). it was sheer bliss and amazing though=D can't stop smiling!!!!! beautiful world beautiful drug=D
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good stuff :D I had a pretty nice time on it yesterday, was coming down nicely by the end of the night, but then I overdid the benzos (again), cue senseless posts on BL and waking up feeling completely sedated :p
 
One thing that i found strange about MDPV, was that just like MDMA it feels good to be cold. Im not really sure how i would describe it but i remember it just feeling great when i was cold.

p.s. i took about 8-10mg plus about 1.25ml of GBL about half an hour ago and am now just watching the snooker and playing some online poker. Its just at the point of being nicely alert and concentrating on more than one thing at the time at the moment. Which i though might help my online poker tournament performance =D
 
Just had a little bulb, contrary to my intention not to vape this stuff again. Wanted to go to sleep early too, to give my body some recovery. Guess that's gonna be a long night

Kind of addicting this stuff, especially when smoked :\
 
I'm currently taking 15mg mirtazapine daily, are there any known interactions with MDPV?
 
From my (woefully) inadequate knowledge of brain chemistry, I believe Mirtazapine specifically effects the serotonin receptors whilst MDPV specifically targets the dopamine ones. From this - and the lack of anything I could find to the contrary - I would think it's probably reasonably safe. Actually may even be a good combo cos peevee is great with a good dose of seratonin thrown in to perk it up =D

As I said, I'm far from an expert though. I'd wait til Bulby Baby pops his head in cos he's bound to know. From what I know of Mirtazapine though, it's one of the safest anti-depressants to take with pretty much any drug. Could be my peevee-ravaged brain making the whole thing up though ;)

They give it to you in full-blown heroin detox when you're more wired than you would be if you snorted an ounce of peevee up each nostril so I would have thought it's fairly unlikely to cause problems - may help to take the slightly manic edge off the peevee by gifting a lil serotonin and sedation actually :)

Ha! Just remembered I've got a couple around somewhere. Maybe I'll go find 'em and munch the lil blighters on your behalf to see if they'll bring me down (or kill me or whatever) cos the benzos, booze and G have barely touched the sides these last coupla days =D

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Shambles said:
Ha! Just remembered I've got a couple around somewhere.
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beside the point OT stuff - I have a rather obscene stash of them because I find the sedation and day after monged out feeling too much to really take them daily as my GP intended me to 8) If I want to get anything done beyond sleeping all day and stuffing my face that is.

I just started another course of them after almost a year break and had some mephedrone, and found my usual fiendish behaviour was really diminished, will perhaps try again to see if it really is due to the mirtazapine or not... I found this http://www.clinicalconnection.com/exp/ExpandedPatientViewStudy179408.aspx which just makes me wish I knew a bit more about how neurochemistry works...

I'm really interested in MDPV because I'm currently going through an awful period of chronic apathy, disinterest and severe lack of motivation that is worse than anything I've ever experienced in my whole history of depression. I find no pleasure in anything anymore and low dose MDPV sounds like it might help me. I cant bring myself to ask my GP for bupropion and it sounds more dangerous that MDPV.
 
^ Unless you know for a fact you can get the beige peevee then don't even think about it. This white stuff causes the effects you mention - and in a really, really big way. Really is some weird and fucked-up stuff - in many ways it kinda feels like the "AntiPV" cos it seems to have the opposite effect in almost every way other than keeping you awake for stupid amounts of time.

I'd avoid it like the plague if your feeling like that cos I guarantee you'll look back on it as a golden era if you use this white crap. Beige (in strictly controlled and very light doses) does help with the problems you have. The white one causes them if they weren't there and exarcebates them to depths you wouldn't credit if they are.

Incidentally, the last few vendors I acquired samples from - different vendors in different parts of the world - were all advertising it as "99.98% pure beige powder" or words to that effect. They are all lil liars who oughta be ashamed of themselves. White three times running - nowhere near pure peevee if its peevee at all - and I'm not best pleased. You should see the angry thread :D

mugabe said:
anyone know if taking the equivalent of over 1.5grams in a week as per the white stuff revelations could be dangerous permanently????
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You've not had 1.5 grams cos you only bought 500mg. I said it seems to have a greater density than the beige - and I'm pretty certain it does - but it's also a lot weaker. My main concern is just what the fuck is it? People have blasted through huge quantites of the beige with nothing but a savage comedown to show for it. Fuck knows what this does but last time I took it 4 days straight I had one of the worst comedowns in living memory - and I've had some belters in my time. Definitely feels a lot rougher on the body than beige. Bit late to worry now though :\
 
I don't really get a comedown on the tan stuff, either i just don't do enough or it doesn't affect me that much; I usually feel significantly better than if i've been drinking.

Well, in the interests of a fair experiment I have been doing PV and getting pissed, so we'll see how I feel tomorrow eh! Wonky blanket ahoy! :D
 
The white stuff I have doesn't seem as bad as what's been said above, to be honest.

I've had a ridiculously busy day, and currently considering an all-nighter, which to be honest, is probably in my best interest with regards what I have to get done, and the importance of it in relation to the consequences!

Haha, guess I'm at the point where I'm talking shit and looking for a bit of a break, been sat working on an important document which could make or break my career (as it stands), can't think of a reason why it would break though, even when sobre earlier.

It's been a while since I did an all-nighter when not socialising or anything, and actually working all through the night, but it's going pretty well. My productivity is damn good considering 6 hours sleep last night, and the night before was alcohol induced 6 hours, but I had a good lie in the night before that.

I can't say there's too much of a comedown as such, but I'd only done max 30mg of the beige in, smoked x 3 10mg, 2 close together and one a couple of hours later. With this batch, I seem to have used a bit more, but not 5x as much! Maybe 25% more, 50% more at most, and that's probably down to tolerance a little.

If I can get myself a couple of hours sleep in a few hours (about to smoke the last one for tonight... hmmm I've said that more than once tonight!), and get into work, get it over with.

It's a little bit make or break because I've taken it upon myself to do something unexpected of my role, well and truly, something even the next level of management would tend to avoid, just as I feel so confident about it.

The peevee has certainly helped me to trawl through for research, quotations to back up my claims and search high and low for any negatives, which I'm still unable to find!

Perhaps it's my mood in general, but I definately don't feel too spaced or speed-like, last dose was ~15mg vapourised, and has been the 5th or 6th today, some of the later ones around 10mg. I know I'm going to crash, just with tiredness eventually, but hey, I'm wondering if it's feasible to carry on for another 14 hours or so, meaning about 38 in total? And just get this out of the way!

It seems like it, if I just take say 25/30mg to work with me to last ~9 hours, plenty without having loads to binge on, and a couple of diazepam for a little later in the afternoon?

Few bananas, should do it right?

Right!?

I'll keep updated!
 
^ Well, after last dose, feeling much perkier, maybe ~8mg, about an hour and a half ago.

Had a valium just to take the edge off the anxiety (mostly caused by knowing I've done an all nighter and what I'm in for today) but feel so much brighter, as always, after seeing the sunrise!

See how the rest of the day goes.
 
Yup, keep doses fairly small and infrequent and it's not so bad really - it's going over 72 hours when it starts to go wrong. I find I go up and down a lot on it - way shorter acting than the beige so a lot "bumpier" and also a lot more fiendish sometimes. An hour after my first dose - only a small sniffed one at that - I was seriously fiending. Didn't give in to it though and wasn't too bad til earlier today when I suddenly realised it's been a few days since I got to be in the same dimension as sleep. Even though I'd really not had much at all - just kept me awake for so long that it got to the point that I need a dose to go to the shop or whatever.

Still not used much in terms of quantity, but it just seems neverending. Sometimes it's been good, sometimes far from good, but mostly just relentless. Gonna go with the flow for a while cos a heavy landing is on the cards anyway so gonna wring a lil pleasure out of it before the recovery has to start.

Oh, on the vaping thing, the beige always ran nicely on the foil with no residue. This stuff doesn't run well and leaves a thick black residue with a kind nicotene yellow patch around it. I've not been smoking much of this batch cos it really does seem to be very dirty indeed.

This particular batch is noticably different to white batches I've had before - it's a lot more speedy. Much more like phet than peevee really. The spaced-out bits come and go - maybe it's me poor ol' brain trying to fit in some downtime. Never got it with the beige though. Right now, I'm actually quite enjoying it - it's playing nice. Just a shame it turns so suddenly so often.

Another big difference - by this stage I'd usually be incoherent and incapable of posting anything. I'm waffling and rambling for Britain tonight, but vaguely lucid - definitely speedier than usual.
 
Shambles said:
^ Unless you know for a fact you can get the beige peevee then don't even think about it. This white stuff causes the effects you mention - and in a really, really big way. Really is some weird and fucked-up stuff - in many ways it kinda feels like the "AntiPV" cos it seems to have the opposite effect in almost every way other than keeping you awake for stupid amounts of time.

I'd avoid it like the plague if your feeling like that cos I guarantee you'll look back on it as a golden era if you use this white crap. Beige (in strictly controlled and very light doses) does help with the problems you have. The white one causes them if they weren't there and exarcebates them to depths you wouldn't credit if they are.

Incidentally, the last few vendors I acquired samples from - different vendors in different parts of the world - were all advertising it as "99.98% pure beige powder" or words to that effect. They are all lil liars who oughta be ashamed of themselves. White three times running - nowhere near pure peevee if its peevee at all - and I'm not best pleased. You should see the angry thread :D
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Cheers for the advice, I'll just have to wait and see what I end up with I guess, the vendor made no mention of appearance or purity, never used them before so I'll be pleased if it even turns up 8)
 
Well folks I'm back at work and looking forward to my next encounter with PV. I have the tan and enough of it to see me up until my 50th b/day next year. Being new to RC's it has been a surprisingly enjoyable adventure and there has been comic moments trying to administer with my partner's perfume atomisers. We have oral dosage syringes at work, but obviously I can't risk pilfering. The stuff has made a holiday family gathering less tedious - my family are very conservative - both C & c. It is quite fiendish, but with my commitments and a bit of will-power it has not been a problem. With my judicious dosing regime the positives have outweighed the negatives. The gastric upsets ( I would appreciate any advice on dealing with these) and slight headaches and muscle tension were the slight downers. Thank you Shambles and all rest of you for your helpful and entertaining posts. Finally, any advice on how to store PV for up to a year would be most appreciated. Love and Sunshine
Mr. Quixote
 
I spoke to one of the manufacturers and he said that the white mdpv is mdpv hcl whereas the tan mdpv is freebase and quickly degrades into that super strong pervert powder. Not exactly evidence but what does everyone think?

btw. that is one of the people at a chinese synth company, not a vendor
 
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