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MDPV Megathread 11: Still sorting all the porn.

Yep, Peevee and Benzos are... nice, just as PV and Opioids, but in all honesty, it's a hellish circle once in for a few days...

I really like PV and Pyrazolam, bcuz you can plug both together because the latter is also water-soluble. This way you can completely cancel out the negative sides of the Peevee... but hell yeah, it's just very dangerous and stupid in terms of HR (just as mixing it with Opioids).
 
Did some sort of pv first time IV last week.
Dont know whats the stuff in the market at the moment but daymn made me do 5 things at the same time as soon as the syringe was empty.

No bad feelings, comedowns whatsoeva.. Kinda was a one time thing buuut never say never.
 
Sounds like MDPV Moe. I ended up with 15 plus wiki tabs while on it - It has all the hallmarks of a good study aid but you jump from topic to topic :D

Went to my lil' cuz's party t'nite n ot was weird - loads of peeps a decade younger n my fam.
Outside havin a cig n could meet people 1 on 1n thay was cool knowing she has great mates :)

Came home early as I felt smokin some more peev n FREE cider ;)

alpha is weird - smoke is harsh, 1st few times are lush but them the physical side effects get worse.
.... Sorry: ramblimg =D
 
Shambles said:
That also won't help with mental health. Really do need mg scales for stuff like aMT cos small difference in dose make for big differences in effect. Invest in scales, Nick. They're only £10-15 on eBay and last forever.
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Agreed, wouldnt dream of random dosing aMT
 
It is a very steep dose response curve with aMT. Nausea especially for me.
But an analogue could be a great antidep
 
It was diluted in some isoprodeqfjbdbhsgw stuff n ranged from 5 to 15mg.

Sad / prolly for the best news:
Out of PV..... Mehh
 
coughing up dried mdpv from the back of your sinuses is the most hideous experience ever

as is the way it turns your intestines into hours of torment.

horrible stuff.
 
Never had that problem with PV Ceres. It does wreck your body though on extended runs. One time after a few days my ankle started to well to twice its size and I could barely walk. Some kind of infection. Still carried on using though. My legs felt like matchsticks and I could feel the Earth sway under my feet. Totally bizarre experience. I thought my house was rocking side to side as I could actually feel it moving. Fucking PV eh? What a mental drug. Stupid fucked thing is I still crave. After all the 'good' it did me. More addictive than meth apparently.
 
How bad of an idea would it be to do a bit of 2-FA a couple of hours after a line of PV? I'm sure it's not the best idea but would it be particularly dangerous for any reason? I've probably done about 30mg of MDPV in two lines a couple of hours apart. I felt quite nice from the first line and got a lot of cleaning done but it wasn't quite enough so I did about the same again and just feel a bit edgy from it. I can't really work out if I like this stuff or not the effects are very strong yet mild at the same time. Would a small amount of 2-Fa just make it even more sketchy or just ad that little bit of euphoria that it's lacking?

Cheers for any advice
 
probably sketch you out even more, redosing more mdpv will sketch you out even more too.

@Ben: it's from snorting it and then not driinking enough and letting it dry up in the back of your throat, a few hours later drinking some water and then it is fucking horrendous.
 
Shambles said:
In hindsight, it didn't occur to me at the time but I'd actually have been in bupe w/d the whole time I was on a-PVP which would perhaps explain a number of the issues I had with it. Not all the issues I had with it but certainly wouldn't have helped endear me to it. I kinda presumed it was similar enough to peev that it would share in the way things not only don't matter and get forgotten, but also really don't matter cos you are oblivious to any mattering they'd otherwise be involved with - masking w/d symptoms, removing nicotine cravings and such like. It didn't though. Did distract me but (with hindsight) I was very much in acute w/d throughout. Must've cancelled out some of the symptoms - or at least masked them - but I suspect largely due to be so focussed on the amount of discomfort I was getting from the direct and indirect effects of a-PVP itself (w/d doesn't cause vasoconstriction and that was the primary source of discomfort I had). Was also extremely emotional - frequent bursting into tears whilst watching things on tellybox, amongst other tear-jerking stimuli of greater and lesser deservings.

It is quite possible I'd dislike it far less if I tried it again without the w/d, but I know I'd never really like it. Just doesn't have the magic thing that makes peev worth all the stuff that surrounds it (well, mostly worth all the stuff that surrounds it some of the time). Specifically it doesn't have the otherworldliness that peev does. That thing peev has where you feel you've come around in some other place, some other place where magic things can happen - and do happen frequently. At least they do on some level. Funny stuff is peev - few drugs are messier, look less appealing, pleasant or enjoyable, are quite so inexplicable for all concerned. No drug can do what peev does though. But the price is a bit steep it must be said :\

Too steep for me currently. And looks like MePPP is also off the menu. I do remember you mentioning it now, Nick. The nastiness of the smoke in particular. Sounds rather like a much shitier version of a-PVP, and given I wasn't overly enamoured of a-PVP i'll give it's inferior cousin a miss methinks.

That's not good about aMT. I can see how it could maybe trigger those symptoms just with the stimminess and duration - I can't smoke synthetic cannabinoids for similar reasons. They serious do not agree with my mental health. At least I hope it was just my mental health being fukked with. Was quite terrifying enough whatever it was. When a drug messes with you to that extent it's really not worth trying to make it fit. Some things are just not suited to some people. It's a shame aMT is that way for you cos is such nice stuff, but it is pretty manic sometimes so can see how it could perhaps cause problems.
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Going be a short answer sadly tho ya long post mate but mental state aint good, will tell about later in this post.


Sorry to hear about the wd's from bupe mate, how are they going now, u out of it or? I really do not know much about bupe. Guess like ya say maybe the wds from bupe maked a-pvp shittier for you than it maybe normally would be.

I don't think you ever will like a-pvp. I do like it, but I allso started with a-pvp, and was dancin with her and liked her, before I met MDPV that so lovely dangerous naughty destructive lady <3 :/ . Just got back to MDPV lil sis a-pvp sum times, to risk less or wtf the reasons have been for I ordered a-pvp once in a while after met MDPV. I like em both yes. but MDPV beats a-pvp big tima. Like you say, no drug can do what peev does.


4-MePPP is pure shite. I do not know why I did order it 3 times, guesss wanted sum pv'ish, but did not dare sum hardcore psychosis at those times. So maybe good all in all I did try it out 3 times.

Yea its sad it was not for me, I liked the effects & the magic aMT have.


ColtDan said:
Nick you used to hoof random amounts of aMT didnt u?
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I did yes. Was & aint not a good thing to do.

Stupid stupid.


Shambles said:
That also won't help with mental health. Really do need mg scales for stuff like aMT cos small difference in dose make for big differences in effect. Invest in scales, Nick. They're only £10-15 on eBay and last forever.
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I have ordered a scale, just aint showed up, I know why and it is so stupid. I tell another day, its a good laugh, PV related in sum way :D




So about my mental health.

I got em voices back in my head talking shite to me etc thanks to aMT (the HCL form, the freebase got tried weeks before did not cause anything), insane paranoia thinkin. Was outside yesterday, had only got a benzo in me and sum beers at that moment, I felt/got voices in my head that all people around me was talking about me/thinked shite of me etc. This Is a really BIG problem, I know if I do touch stims (speed & em weak stims no counts) it would do it allso outside home and not only at home (this crib haunted, here worst voices are etc, told about before).

I have done sum mxe everyday since wednesday, and think it maybe is makin it even worse, + stupid me did sum meph yesterday (really nice meph indeed) but do not help at all with my mental state.

I know it all messy this post. I have craved PV like crazy whole day. :(
 
Matey I'm sorry you are having a bad time. I really don't think aMT is the cause. I have had outrageous paranoid delusions hearing voices on PV. I was off work for two years on anti psychotics for it. aMT has such a gentle head space that I never had any negatives from it apart from a rough come-up. I can only guess that either you have been sold something that is cut or not aMT or you have an underlying problem that aMT is exaggerating. I've never heard or experienced this before though so I'm just guessing. aMT for me was an amazing anti-depressant. I'd feel great and free of anxiety for weeks afterwards. Did you experience anything like this from the other batch you had?

I feel for you mate. Those bloody voices are brutal. All I can suggest is you cut back on your drug use and get some professional help and maybe they can prescribe you something to help. I know you have suffered from mental health issues in the past and have prescribed medicines but you really need to tell someone what your experiencing mate. I wish you all the best. I hope you can get something to calm you down and give you some peace. I know what a unrelenting nightmare it can be. <3

Ceres said:
@Ben: it's from snorting it and then not driinking enough and letting it dry up in the back of your throat, a few hours later drinking some water and then it is fucking horrendous.
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Oh fucking hell yeah. Sorry, I misunderstood your first post but this has jogged my memory. Before I started smoking I used to get this. Funny how my memory had chosen to block it but yeah definitely. Your skin goes so dry round your nostrils and face and you hack up lumps of shit.
 
Can anyone suggest a safe but effective dose for MDPV used IV? I have a lot of experience with various IV stimulants, but no current tolerance to any of them. My idea was to start around 15-20mg IV and see how that goes. I understand the rush is supposed to be quite something, but would also really like to survive the experience. I also understand that with this one I'm going to have to watch the urge to re-dose, because that's when the craziness starts.
Any thoughts anyone?
 
I would not advise you to IV mdpv as a fellow human being I suggest you just don't IV and if you must then vape it.
 
If you must, plug it.

You'll get a decent rush off MDPV plugged. I hear IV is not that much better tbh with this drug.
 
been head said:
How bad of an idea would it be to do a bit of 2-FA a couple of hours after a line of PV?
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I've never actually combined the two. Can't really imagine why I'd ever need to. I suspect they'd work reasonably well together in the sense that they have broadly similar effects with 2-FA tickling a bit of serotonin alongside the dopamine. In that sense it might feel a bit more balanced than taking peev alone. That's pure speculation though so don't take as FACT! by any means. There's no obvious reason why it would be dangerous. It's not a combo that really appeals to me cos it'd ruin the peev for me. It probably depends on what you're looking for in a stim though.

Nicklazz said:
Sorry to hear about the wd's from bupe mate, how are they going now, u out of it or?
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Erm... Yes but not necessarily for the very bestest of best reasons. Went several days then got sick of w/d and had a smidge of bupe and have done each day since. Really has been but a smidge (less than 1mg/day) but is still using and will still have a bumpy landing of some sort. Not overly bumpy as it is a really tiny amount and got enough to taper even that if needs be. Mostly annoyed at pissing away bupe I was saving for purely recreational use at some future point. Still got a few left so potentially that plan could still work. The fact I can be in full w/d with it just sitting there and me not taking it is promising... the fact I never seem to fully complete the w/d is less promising :\

Nicklazz said:
I have done sum mxe everyday since wednesday, and think it maybe is makin it even worse, + stupid me did sum meph yesterday (really nice meph indeed) but do not help at all with my mental state.
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Firstly, am really sorry to hear you're suffering with voices again. I've experienced similar for but a brief period in the past and is truly terrifying. A thing that requires attention and action, I'd say. In your case, action should definitely involve cutting out MXE cos dissociatives are notorious for producing schizophrenic-like states - generally only temporarily but daily MXE use is a bit much to be calling temporary. Needs to be stopped completely. At the very least for a good while, perhaps permanently. Same goes for stims. Stims cause psychosis - I think all in this thread know a thing or two about that. Even "lesser" stims cause psychosis when heavily abused and if in a sensitive state it won't even have to be heavy abuse. Lay off the stims and dissos - ideally lay off all drugs, but certainly stims, dissos and psyches need to be off the menu for a while. Cannabis/cannabinoids to for that matter. All of those are known for producing psychotic states and all will be far more likely to if you're already in fragile mental state. You need to take a break, Nick. If not it'll end up being an enforced break cos you'll just end up sectioned. Not the most appealing of things (either possibility) but one is most definitely preferable to the other...

Hope you can take a proper break. I think you probably know you need to at this point. Wouldn't be saying it if I didn't think so too. Voices should hopefully go by themselves if you take some time away from drugs - certain types of drugs especially - and generally look after yourself a bit. Don't hesitate to seek medical attention if voices become too much. I have some idea of how intrusive and overwhelming they can be at times and that was only for a pretty brief period, if it had gone on for longer I really would've gone nuts. Or... don't know what "or". Hopefully won't ever need to find out, but do seek help if it gets too much <3
 
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