MDPV Megathread 11: Still sorting all the porn.

[Ceres]

The trick is to apply the energy in a useful way and avoid thinking about pornography.

 

[ColtDan]

Mdpv scares me. One of only a few drugs I don't intend on ever experiencing. It seems users have an odd relationship with it.

Same... Sounds weird

 

[Albion]

The trick is to apply the energy in a useful way and avoid thinking about pornography.

Don't think about porn don't think about porn don't think about porn don't think about porn don't think about porn


PORN




^ It goes something like that when you're on PV.

 

[mydrugbuddy]

PV was one of those drugs that crossed a line for me, it had previously been in the class of drugs i termed 'do not ever go near.' Once it became impossible to fill the void left by the banning of mephedrone, PV eventually emerged as an alternative option. After crossing that line i had made up for myself almost everything was on the menu, except for Heroin, i cannot allow myself to ever go near that stuff.

 

[Shambles]

I haven't had the porn issue for ages with peev now. Unless something specifically triggers it it doesn't really cross my mind. If it is triggered it will still become an obsession, mind. It does tend to be in terms of sorting porn rather than actually watching it or making traditional use of it though. Lots of faffing and searching, little or no viewing or wanking. I've been wondering if it's a change in me or whether the erotomania is in large part due to suggestion. I certainly remember it being absolutely intrinsic to the MDPV experience - as in a direct cause and effect relationship - but that doesn't seem to be the case any more. Last time I got randy on peev it was because my ladyfriend happened to come visit whilst I was in the midst of a run and it was her that was randy which in turn triggered me. Wouldn't have come up (fnarr, etc) if she hadn't supplied the inspiration, enticement and encouragement. Not to mention the practical opportunity.

 

[Ceres]

yeah a ladyfriend certainly helps....

 

[Uncle Robert]

Trigger. Had a dream last night where a ladybird killed my mum. Cut the fucker's head off but in doing so it released hundreds of baby ladybirds.

 

[Nicklazz]

Matey I'm sorry you are having a bad time. I really don't think aMT is the cause. I have had outrageous paranoid delusions hearing voices on PV. I was off work for two years on anti psychotics for it. aMT has such a gentle head space that I never had any negatives from it apart from a rough come-up. I can only guess that either you have been sold something that is cut or not aMT or you have an underlying problem that aMT is exaggerating. I've never heard or experienced this before though so I'm just guessing. aMT for me was an amazing anti-depressant. I'd feel great and free of anxiety for weeks afterwards. Did you experience anything like this from the other batch you had?

I feel for you mate. Those bloody voices are brutal. All I can suggest is you cut back on your drug use and get some professional help and maybe they can prescribe you something to help. I know you have suffered from mental health issues in the past and have prescribed medicines but you really need to tell someone what your experiencing mate. I wish you all the best. I hope you can get something to calm you down and give you some peace. I know what a unrelenting nightmare it can be.

I do myself think it was that did make it come back, it was after the first try with the HCL aMT it started so small, then I tried it again and it gone worse mate. If it was cut I can't tell but really can't believe from that vendor.

I did not feel free of anxiety or sum kind of anti depressant from either batches no, I heard many does tho' So weird I did not.

I have loads of antipsychotics, different kinds, but they make me zombie, and Im bad to take em, + if I drink on em I puke like loco in the end.

Still suffering from mental health, OCD, anxiety, paranoia-thinkin, borderline personality disorder, ADHD. I should really not take drugs, The drug center etc what ya call it can't help me they say.

I need structure, persons around me like when I have been in mental clinics where I did sleep eat etc.

I have a very important meeting friday, where I get an answer (I HOPE I GET THE ANSWER THERE) to a place where I should live and getting out of drugs & alcohol and then helped with my disorders. Sum thing like rehab I guess. It is just very pricey for the state. I have fighted for it for over a year, they have said no many times, we kept fighting, and now it seems there is sum thing happening.

Firstly, am really sorry to hear you're suffering with voices again. I've experienced similar for but a brief period in the past and is truly terrifying. A thing that requires attention and action, I'd say. In your case, action should definitely involve cutting out MXE cos dissociatives are notorious for producing schizophrenic-like states - generally only temporarily but daily MXE use is a bit much to be calling temporary. Needs to be stopped completely. At the very least for a good while, perhaps permanently. Same goes for stims. Stims cause psychosis - I think all in this thread know a thing or two about that. Even "lesser" stims cause psychosis when heavily abused and if in a sensitive state it won't even have to be heavy abuse. Lay off the stims and dissos - ideally lay off all drugs, but certainly stims, dissos and psyches need to be off the menu for a while. Cannabis/cannabinoids to for that matter. All of those are known for producing psychotic states and all will be far more likely to if you're already in fragile mental state. You need to take a break, Nick. If not it'll end up being an enforced break cos you'll just end up sectioned. Not the most appealing of things (either possibility) but one is most definitely preferable to the other...

Hope you can take a proper break. I think you probably know you need to at this point. Wouldn't be saying it if I didn't think so too. Voices should hopefully go by themselves if you take some time away from drugs - certain types of drugs especially - and generally look after yourself a bit. Don't hesitate to seek medical attention if voices become too much. I have some idea of how intrusive and overwhelming they can be at times and that was only for a pretty brief period, if it had gone on for longer I really would've gone nuts. Or... don't know what "or". Hopefully won't ever need to find out, but do seek help if it gets too much

Yea I have to lay down em drugs. Just hard. Have been doing meph and mxe the last to days too.. Hell and I know it just make it worse but still keep on doing it, its an weird and evil sspiral, and we fiends now all about it.

I have got me sum etizolam pellets and sum dicla (em whitey new ones) pellets, so will try one of next days to just use em and let the mxe and stims etc be I think.


I really need a break yea, a big one. Just hard out here, like I wrote in answer to Ben, I need that rehab-place, to really get help with it all.


Thanks to ya both for coming with tips & ya opinions. Means lot to me guys

 

[mydrugbuddy]

I really need a break yea, a big one. Just hard out here, like I wrote in answer to Ben, I need that rehab-place, to really get help with it all.

It's certainly not easy to leave some habits behind. Its very easy to say that 'you need to pick yourself up, dust yourself down, and get on with moving forward'. This is something ive been trying to do for many months, making progress but then undoing it again and again all too soon. I've tried to stop going on about it all so much on here as its probably beginning to get on many peoples nerves, but i believe that we can all do it though, it is possible. Getting your own mind set properly is as important, if not more important than getting help though i think. But the help can be about this mind set more than anything else that needs to change.

 

[yoyo50]

It's the small victories that win the war Nick

 

[Ceres]

mdpv is one hell of a drug.

 

[QuasiStoned]

Hey, Quasi - long time no see. Great to see you pop your head in and in such positive situation too

Your name crops up fairly often in the "has anybody heard from xxxx recently? any idea how xxxx is getting on?" discussions and is really good to see that you're seven months off the stuff and sounding suitably pleased with and positive about the fact. Nice job

Is a shame reading and posting in this thread may not be overly helpful for those who are making efforts to avoid these substances cos always did enjoy reading your posts, hopefully see you around and about the place in general though and you're always more than welcome to join in any of the other fine, fine selection of threads EADD has to offer

(oh, and yes they did allow me to reclaim me stick - now to see if i can keep hold of it rather than revert to type and fiend it all away again...)

Aww thanks. Warms my heart a bit to hear that you guys still think about me sometimes But yeah I've not been around much, just not much interest in PV these days (CRAZY TO THINK I'D EVER SAY THAT). The longer I stay away, the less I think about it. God I remember all those days when I'd wake up from a dream that revolved entirely around getting a whisp of that sweet PV vapor. MDPV and APVP just had a way of sinking their teeth into me and not letting go. I guess they do that with the greater majority of people who embrace it and try getting a kick with the stuff.

All I can say guys is it does get easier with time. Peev crosses my mind maybe a few times a month. Way better than 3000x per month, lol. Stay healthy my friends, I'll try to pop back in here more often. And try to join some other threads. I've missed you guys We've got a bond like no other... we know what MDPV does to a healthy brain and life, lol. WE KNOW, lol. We're like some wackjob crazy minority of people who have seen a world of insanity.

Take care my friends.

 

[been head]

Could any one tell me if it is safe to take etizolams while taking MDPV? I want to do a little bit more PV but suspect it might make me feel sketchy if I do. would taking .5 mg of etizolam stop the sketch and allow me to continue enjoying the PV? Thanks for any answers

 

[Shambles]

It's physically quite safe to take benzos with MDPV and they can help with any sketchy feelings. There is a problem when you increase doses of both as it tends to spiral resulting in blackouts whilst concurrently being highly stimulated. Personally I prefer not to take benzos with peev as it always seems to end up with me in worse state than I would be if I stick to peev alone. It could be argued that if you don't feel comfortable upping your peev intake you're perhaps on the limits of what is in your best interest to be taking. Benzos lower inhibitions which tends to result in increasingly reckless dosing of both which tends to get messy and both drugs are notoriously messy taken at higher dose in their own right so I'm sure you can imagine the combined messiness is really very messy indeedy. There is no physical safety concern though which is what you specifically asked. It's more the knock-on effects that tend to accompany dosing both together that are the concern.

 

[Nicklazz]

you can take etizolam with PV yes I don't know if .5 mg will be enough to take em jitters and all that, but it is pretty safe to do. Take care Been head.

edit

Shambles beated me to it. Next time I should refresh page :D

 

[Mental Kenny]

I don't know for me pv was what triggered the whole porn thing in the first place, before trying it I would take uppers to do uni work, or other productive activities, since the first time I tried pv(18 hour wankathon), now every time I take some stimulants I want to watch porn.

There's definately something in the pv itself that makes it so porn-fiendish

 

[Shambles]

There definitely was for me initially but the effects of tan were significantly different and it is that which I closely associate with ridiculously OTT erotomania. It's definitely still there to an extent with actual MDPV (assuming "tan" was a related and still unconfirmed chemical) but it's a fraction of the effect and I think it was largely the existing mental connection I had between peev & pr0n that made it seem like there was more of a link than there actually was for me. I know I went from... significant interaction with porn (or indeed an actual partner at times just to make clear I'm not a total wanker) to something much more akin to filing and sorting than really watching or wanking or having any real interest in beyond a certain fascination and urge to plan, file and sort stuff.

I struggle to ever do anything that could really be considered to be productive when on peev but the urge to sift through large volumes of "stuff" can be tickled by a number of things. If I happen to come across porn (fnarr, etc) that could well be what I spend hours sifting through but it could just as easily be virtually anything else. It's mostly the OCD-esque stuff with me, what I'm obsessing over is less important. Technical and legal documents seem to be especially suited to spending hours dredging through for me. Not that I would expect to learn much of anything along the way but maybe I do - probably more chance of learning a thing of some use than doing the same with porn. Admittedly cos I kinda doubt there's much left in pr0nworld that I haven't already *ahem* studied in depth and at great length during my pervier peevier days.

 

[monstanoodle]

I'm fairly certain that the tan is a well-synthed freebase. Even my crappy best results have a noiiiicer effect!

.... 2g came yesterday .....

 

[Nicklazz]

U keep ordering monsta? You been a run for sum time now right? Maybe with a a few days break? Going ok while doing it? take care

 

[monstanoodle]

It's been on n off but too continuous. It has a grip