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(MDPV/200 mg) Euphoria, dysphoria and incredible horniness

by the way the colour n texture is an of white almost brown powder but has darker lumps in it is by no means consistent all the way through a just crush it all up the same an after tellin ma mate to careful then him bein the one that dont want it again n me bein the one thatf'd up twice in a day am thinkin its summit that affects your short term mem mayb poss bit addictive always seen to wana hit another one straight away some tiomes do by accident...


something else i just noticed on the pack manufactured in the USA for collectors international not quite sure how that would enter the country legally though? or is that possible?
 
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My partner and i are not exactly new to the scene and have tried a few other herbal high products on the market and never experienced or could have imagined what was about to happen to us in the next week, thats right i said week!!!

We both shared 1gram of ivory wave and very quickly the effects kicked in, at first it was intense rush and constant buzz, our hearts were racing and does give you a horny feeling, great we thought. The buzz didn't wear off and we began tripping out quite badly seeing thngs and hearing things that weren't there but still nothing major. It gets worse!!!

Neither of us were capable of sleep or even contemplating it, soon morning came around but we were still both buzzing and rushing so intensly our heart beat hadn't calmed down and the time you expect the come down to kick in your still full awake experiencing the full effects, but by this pont it was getting too much but we couldn't stop it!

By the next day still no sleep at all the hallucinations and paranoia were so extreme that we couldn't function properly and had completely detatched ourself from what was real and what we were seeing!

I decided enough was enough and checked myself into hospital because i needed it to stop, my partner decided to stay at home and ride the storm as he put it. After being in A&E for about 4 hours my paranoia kicked back in and i discharged myself without further treatment. I had no real idea what was real and upon leaving the hospital went walk about in my local town for 48 hours. I thought everyone was against me and was talking to people who weren't there and was shouting random abuse at people who were. I made no effort to contact friends and family so they reported me missing and i was found after 48 hours sitting under the pier on the local beach dillusional.

Again i was hospitalised and after another 2 days and constant medical supervision and lots of controlled drugs by doctors i was well enough to go home but still require further counselling!

My partner i'm afraid was even worse!!!! As he stayed at home initially his paranoia and hallucinations almost literally drove him crazy! He thought other people were in the house trying to harm him, holding conversations with invisible people and trying to glue windows and doors shut to stop people getting in. He was taking in by friends and family and taken to hospital but agagin paranoia made him discharge himself.

Medical advice was sought from home and after 3 out of hours GP visits ambulance crews, police cars and a visit by the mental health team things were looking up!! It got so bad that the paranoia made him punch through a glass window, you serriously cannot sleep on this drug and there is no way out, it's also impossible to eat. It even makes you turn on friends and family or people trying to help. Again it took days of drugs and expert medical care for him to return to normal.

We thought we were pretty resiliant and could handle most things but this is dangerous!!!

I recommend that no one takes this!!!

LETHAL!!!





this one ive been getting is very very very trippy and there have been reports of 22 hospitalised in the uk this year (mainly west lothian sctland) and a few in the south 5 or 6..which when someone that isnt nessecarily in the -Illegall drug scee thinks is really bad whn you look at figures for controlled drugs though it soon shows a difefrnt story eh
 
OK dint think there was anything else left to go on this feed but its 3/4 day later and the come down has hit me like a bitch,


I'v been pretty mush fine since ad to be fair its not a dirty ill downer but i feel like i could sleep for a month strange because, i stood up about ten minutes ago let out a cough an a just got a whiff of that unmistakeable foul smellin IW n then it felt like id just banged up 20 temazepam!!


ohwell at least a defo know it sover by tomorrow!! 8(8(8(
 
Stay away*****ivory wave***** stay away

Some English dude jumped off a cliff on this stuff: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3098829/Legal-high-dad-dies-in-300ft-fall.html

Others have been rushed to emergency wards.
Be careful people, its not worth losing your life over a (or any) drug

Do you know what buddy i couldnt agree more and i have spent all day on facebook my space msn the phone and every other medium i could think of trying to tell people not to touch this shit, i have quite a high drug tolerance in my opinion and it fucked me up (still affecting my eyes and my sleep now)
god knows what its doing to these poor kids


STAY AWAY FROM IVORY WAVE!!!
 
Note that the original TR was on the same branded product but by all accounts the active ingredients have changed (a number of times)- the original was just MDPV & Pentylone(?), god knows what this new stuff is, wouldn't touch with a 1000 mile barge pole
 
original quote by neilios
Note that the original TR was on the same branded product but by all accounts the active ingredients have changed (a number of times)- the original was just MDPV & Pentylone(?), god knows what this new stuff is, wouldn't touch with a 1000 mile barge pole


totally, thing is i always research a legal high before trying it, admittedly i only looked at the one review but the review has never been so mis-informing before so ive only ever had to look at one but its safe to say a wont be buying any more still got blurry eyes n a dodgy sleep pattern and its nearly a week on without none....

im just lucky im not one of the unfortunate ones that it messed up (done a good enough job of that myself over the years)(may be the only reason this shit didn't kill me), i just hope anyone out there that is going to try it regardless of the reporting takes it easy like i did hey may not be so 'lucky'
 
I am done with this shit! feel like shit a half a week after using..people can tell im on something cause my eyes are wide and bugged. No more for me.:p
 
To be honest i think people everywhere that r taking this shit r complete fools, u talk about chest pains or muscular pains or head pains, thats nothin!!! Wot about the pain your families will feel wen ur buried 6 foot in the ground !!! But not jus in the morning but morning, day, and night. I think u all need to take a look at uselves n think christ i dont wana put my family through that, b4 it rele is too late if ya had any sense u would leave this crap where it is, people are dying off these this cant u see that

If you're talking about MDPV I think you'll find that attributing deaths directly to it is a fallacy. It is extrodinarily benign physically as far as stimulants go (it was chosen because of all the pyrovalerone derivatives, it had the lowest toxicity, lower even than pyrovalerone & it's seen as been pretty safe). OK people may do stupid things under the influence, but then again people are prone to being psychologically flakey, esp drug users. People do all sorts of stupid shite when drunk, having sex etc, so it's hardly a cause to demonize it

PS if you want to be taken seriously, use language correctly as your post doesn't exactly scream rational informed person
 
I agree with every word posted above by Bubbles69.


While I am not a user myself (anymore...used to dabble a bit thirty years ago) I found this site looking for information on Ivory Wave after it 'nearly' (we are still not sure) permanently disabled my 20 year old son.

He and I have a fairly good relationship - can talk about anything. I know he takes the occasional spliff - he always maintained he was happy with being stoned and mellow and didn't want to try stimulants. However, he met somone at a festival recently who suggested they get together to try the 'new' Mcat when they got home to his flat. They now think they got Ivory Wave - a yellowish brown substance not unlike yellow granulated demerarra sugar. They used about 6grams from Friday to Monday (both students.) No real alcohol involved with it - I found a couple of opened, half full cans in the flat later, no empties. Initially, my son says he felt ok...no real effect, although the mate was violently sick a few times and stopped taking it. Just curled up in a duvet and stared at the wall. Meanwhile my son was wide awake, manic and starting on the most hellish, cyclic trip of his own. He is a big lad - over six foot and sixteen stone, but he is a lightweight when it comes to trips, having only ever had weed. He doesn't know what day the phychosis started but he remembers every single second of it in amazing clarity . He spent hours hallucinating that people were camping in his front garden, there were men with weapons at every window, just staring at him and not moving for hours. Finally he went outside and kicked fu*ck out of 'them' ninja style all over the garden to the surprise of the neighbours who had had enough of the odd activity going on all weekend. Meanwhile, when he came back inside he found dead people/zombies/ standing in his front room and he panicked. His nose was full of seriously bloody snot and mucus which he was blowing on his tee shirt, and arming himself with a kitchen knife left his flat to go on a walkabout at 7am in a city centre which just coming to life. When the police finally managed to persuade him to come out from under the bushes, he did go with them to hospital where was was kept in for observation for 48 hours. He had not eaten, drank anything, or been able to pee for three days and his kidneys were begining to complain a little. As soon as he was in unfamiliar surroundings he seemed to be ok and stopped hallucinating. He was given diazepam, but when it wore off the hallucinations and paranoid delusions started again worse than before. ONE WEEK later he was still delusional and having auditory hallucinations. He told me he wanted to die, he felt his brain was vibrating and shaking, like it had been permanently changed. Psyche doctors would not look at him in hospital, as this is a recreational legal substance and he was not intentionally self harming. One month on and although this is a cliche, he really is a shadow of his former self. My clever, funny son is terrified of the dark, can't be on his own and is utterly depressed at the start of his third year at Manchester Uni.

Steer clear.
 
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>>Originally Posted by bubbles69 View Post
My partner and i are not exactly new to the scene and have tried a few other herbal high products on the market and never experienced or could have imagined what was about to happen to us in the next week, thats right i said week!!!

We both shared 1gram of ivory wave and very quickly the effects kicked in, at first it was intense rush and constant buzz, our hearts were racing and does give you a horny feeling, great we thought. The buzz didn't wear off and we began tripping out quite badly seeing thngs and hearing things that weren't there but still nothing major. It gets worse!!!

Neither of us were capable of sleep or even contemplating it, soon morning came around but we were still both buzzing and rushing so intensly our heart beat hadn't calmed down and the time you expect the come down to kick in your still full awake experiencing the full effects, but by this pont it was getting too much but we couldn't stop it!

By the next day still no sleep at all the hallucinations and paranoia were so extreme that we couldn't function properly and had completely detatched ourself from what was real and what we were seeing!

I decided enough was enough and checked myself into hospital because i needed it to stop, my partner decided to stay at home and ride the storm as he put it. After being in A&E for about 4 hours my paranoia kicked back in and i discharged myself without further treatment. I had no real idea what was real and upon leaving the hospital went walk about in my local town for 48 hours. I thought everyone was against me and was talking to people who weren't there and was shouting random abuse at people who were. I made no effort to contact friends and family so they reported me missing and i was found after 48 hours sitting under the pier on the local beach dillusional.

Again i was hospitalised and after another 2 days and constant medical supervision and lots of controlled drugs by doctors i was well enough to go home but still require further counselling!

My partner i'm afraid was even worse!!!! As he stayed at home initially his paranoia and hallucinations almost literally drove him crazy! He thought other people were in the house trying to harm him, holding conversations with invisible people and trying to glue windows and doors shut to stop people getting in. He was taking in by friends and family and taken to hospital but agagin paranoia made him discharge himself.

Medical advice was sought from home and after 3 out of hours GP visits ambulance crews, police cars and a visit by the mental health team things were looking up!! It got so bad that the paranoia made him punch through a glass window, you serriously cannot sleep on this drug and there is no way out, it's also impossible to eat. It even makes you turn on friends and family or people trying to help. Again it took days of drugs and expert medical care for him to return to normal.

We thought we were pretty resiliant and could handle most things but this is dangerous!!!

I recommend that no one takes this!!!

LETHAL!<<



I agree with every word.


While I am not a user myself (anymore...used to dabble a bit thirty years ago) I found this site looking for information on Ivory Wave after it 'nearly' (we are still not sure) permanently disabled my 20 year old son.

He and I have a fairly good relationship - can talk about anything. I know he takes the occasional spliff - he always maintained he was happy with being stoned and mellow and didn't want to try stimulants. However, he met somone at a festival recently who suggested they get together to try the 'new' Mcat when they got home to his flat. They now think they got Ivory Wave - a yellowish brown substance not unlike yellow granulated demerarra sugar. They used about 6grams from Friday to Monday (both students.) No real alcohol involved with it - I found a couple of opened, half full cans in the flat later, no empties. Initially, my son says he felt ok...no real effect, although the mate was violently sick a few times and stopped taking it. Just curled up in a duvet and stared at the wall. Meanwhile my son was wide awake, manic and starting on the most hellish, cyclic trip of his own. He is a big lad - over six foot and sixteen stone, but he is a lightweight when it comes to trips, having only ever had weed. He doesn't know what day the phychosis started but he remembers every single second of it in amazing clarity . He spent hours hallucinating that people were camping in his front garden, there were men with weapons at every window, just staring at him and not moving for hours. Finally he went outside and kicked fu*ck out of 'them' ninja style all over the garden to the surprise of the neighbours who had had enough of the odd activity going on all weekend. Meanwhile, when he came back inside he found dead people/zombies/ standing in his front room and he panicked. His nose was full of seriously bloody snot and mucus which he was blowing on his tee shirt, and arming himself with a kitchen knife left his flat to go on a walkabout at 7am in a city centre which just coming to life. When the police finally managed to persuade him to come out from under the bushes, he did go with them to hospital where was was kept in for observation for 48 hours. He had not eaten, drank anything, or been able to pee for three days and his kidneys were begining to complain a little. As soon as he was in unfamiliar surroundings he seemed to be ok and stopped hallucinating. He was given diazepam, but when it wore off the hallucinations and paranoid delusions started again worse than before. ONE WEEK later he was still delusional and having auditory hallucinations. He told me he wanted to die, he felt his brain was vibrating and shaking, like it had been permanently changed. Psyche doctors would not look at him in hospital, as this is a recreational legal substance and he was not intentionally self harming. One month on and although this is a cliche, he really is a shadow of his former self. My clever, funny son is terrified of the dark, can't be on his own and is utterly depressed at the start of his third year at Manchester Uni.

Steer clear.

thats sad hope your son gets better. i'm i occasional weekend socail drug user but never go overboard i always know my limits but this ivory wave sounds lethel i tried quite a few rc's but much prefer illegal ones exept for amt which is awsome but i have never heard of this ivory wave until recently and never want to try it either as i'm hearing nothing but bad stories about it.

whoever makes this stuff should be shot doesn't sound like fun at all what the fuck are these people thinking?
 
My thinking exactly.

I've tried Ivory Wave a few times now. I was actually planning a thread of my own - neilios beat me to the punch.

I've done some research of the likely suspects, and I have concluded that Ivory Wave is probably Methylenedioxypyrovalerone (MDPV) cut with something inactive.

My friends and I have had quite a few decent experiences with Ivory Wave - the effects seem to fall somewhere between MDMA/MDEA and Meth. Perhaps the charginess of meth, the empathy of MDMA, and the brief dulled euphoria of MDEA. There is definately an overwhelming 'love' - I managed to connect with my girlfriend on a level like never before. It's the sort of drug that would lead you to solve issues of world peace...unfortunately, the thoughts/feelings diminish the next day.

I find accurate dosage incredibly difficult (sensitive scales are a must!!). I'm pretty satisfied around the 50-70mg mark. The drug is very moreish though and I wouldn't advise re-dosing, from experience, this leads to a very messy next few days.

For me, the comedown from a high dose (2 x 70mg - 3 hours apart) is never as 'empty' as MDMA, its more akin to the acid insomnia / fatigued feeling (almost to the point you feel as though you cannot stand). Pretty bad headache as well - I ended up eating 10mg of Oxycodone to numb the pain. I have also noted irregular chest/heart sensations the following night. Not quite palpitations or chest pains, just an odd (tight) feeling that your pushing your heart a little too hard.

I'm always sceptical about putting strange(r) chemicals into my body. Ivory Wave is quite enjoyable, but definitely for the more seasoned individuals.

I'd feel a little better if some research was done on its potential health risks.

For seasoned drug fiends only. I read some of the reports on this thread and they were truly frightening. My first LSD trip was quite difficult, back in 1977, but after that I have to say that my only problem with these 'legal highs' is that young kids might not know the strength of them if all they know is booze and weed.
Being awake for 60 or 70 hours is not to be recommended for young people whose brains aren't equipped for it.
 
From the Uk newspaper - the Guardian


The mother of a chef whose body was found off the Isle of Wight has claimed that the drug sold under the brand name Ivory Wave as a "legal high" may have contributed to his death.
The warning came a week after doctors in Cumbria expressed concerns over the substance following a spate of Ivory Wave-related admissions.
The body of 24-year-old Michael Bishton was found by a fisherman off Whitecliff Bay, near Bembridge, Isle of Wight, on Saturday.
His mother, Tami, has said that he took the drug in the days before his death and had suffered paranoid hallucinations.
The drug, which is sold legally for about £15 a packet, is advertised as relaxing bath salts, in order to bypass the UK's food and drug regulations. Similar steps were taken by online vendors of the drugmephedrone, who sold it as plant food.
St George's Hospital University, in London, analysed a product branded as Ivory Wave in 2009, and found it to contain MDPV, a powerful stimulant, and lidocaine, a numbing agent, possibly included in the product to imitate the effects of cocaine.
However, without tests of the batch alleged to have been taken by Bishton, the true contents of the product currently sold as Ivory Wave remain unknown.
MDPV was made illegal in the UK along with mephedrone and other chemicals which share the same basic structure. It is active at extremely low doses – as low as 5mg, as compared to around 100mg for other, similar stimulants – meaning users can inadvertently take huge overdoses, leading to psychosis and delusions.
Since the mephedrone ban in April, many online drug vendors or their suppliers have been repackaging and rebranding illegal drugs and selling them as new, legal products.
It also emerged today that six people thought to have taken Ivory Wave were admitted to hospital in Cumbria last week.
Many of those taken to West Cumberland hospital in Whitehaven were suffering with extreme agitation and visual and auditory hallucinations, according to North Cumbria University Hospitals NHS Trust.
Some patients were admitted to the critical care unit and placed under cardiac monitoring for up to 12 hours, and in one case, it took four porters to restrain a young woman believed to have taken the drug.
Dr Kate Wilmer, a consultant cardiologist at the hospital, said the symptoms displayed were "much worse" than the effects of the banned drug mephedrone, which was sold as "plant food".
"People are coming into the hospital in an extremely agitated state with acute paranoid psychosis," she said.
"If you try to give them anything to help them, they are convinced you are trying to harm them so we have had to completely knock out two or three of them in order to treat them."
Wilmer said that all those treated had experienced very fast heart rates, psychosis and agitation.
"I have never seen anything like it, it is really awful," she said, adding that the drug's effects were worse than mephedrone.
She added the initial symptoms shown could be the "tip of the iceberg" and that worse effects could be yet to come.
"What we don't know is whether this could cause long-term psychiatric problems for these people," she said.
Dr John Ramsey, a toxicologist and director of the Tictac Communications drugs database at St George's medical school in London, said it was impossible to know what chemicals were now in Ivory Wave.
"It's an unknown danger because we don't know what's in them," he said. "It's extremely difficult to what the risks are when the compounds change."
Without a proper chemical analysis, he added, it was hard to gauge whether the so-called legal highs were legal or safe.
"The pharmaceutical industry tests compounds to make sure they are safe, but these are not tested so we don't know whether they are safe."
Given that no one knows what such substances contain, he added, "the only safe option is to avoid drugs and legal highs altogether".
No similar cases had been reported at West Cumberland hospital before last week and none have so far been seen at Cumberland infirmary in Carlisle.
Last Wednesday, police seized "numerous" substances including Ivory Wave when they raided four addresses in Whitehaven and Workington. Two Whitehaven men, aged 55 and 29, were arrested on suspicion of supplying class B drugs and then bailed as tests were carried out on the substances.
Mephedrone, was banned in April after it was linked to the deaths of two teenagers. However, toxicology reports later showed that the pair had not taken the drug.
 
Hi, I found this forum after frantically searching for any info on the legal high "Ivory Wave". Someone I'm close to took this 3-4 days ago. It was a 200mg red foil packet. From what we can work out they purchased 1000mg between 2 people over the course of 2 days, more specifically, he took 8 lines over 3 days, not sure what that equates to as far as what he personally took.

Bottom line is, he's been really bad and we're getting worried. We took him into hospital 2 days ago, they didn't administer him with anything, no drip, they put him on an ecg, tooks blood and urine samples. His bmp was at 150 for about 2 hours at this point. He was getting all the symptoms mentioned in this thread. He left the hospital with no actual treatment as, well, needless to say, there's none right now. This was 2 days ago and although he's calmed down alot, he's still highly eratic and complains of bizarre symptoms, mostly physial although his mental attitude is certainly not normal but it is coherent.

He hasn't slept in almost 72 hours now and this is our major concern. My definitive reason for coming here and posting is to merely ask? (and yet I know no one is really qualified to answer, but as no one has answers, i feel the best advicei s from people who've taken it), Can we give him something to help him sleep? and if so what?

I think if we can get him to rest he'll feel better for it. The physical pains he complains of which leave him constantly moving about and erratic combined with the other effects of the drugs are leaving him constantly restless.

The OP mentioned they took a sleeping drug to take the edge off and seemed to implied it worked. Obviously there's the concern of mixing otehr drugs with unknown substances but I'd like to hear any further input on anyone who has taken sleeping pills or something as such to help them sleep and if it's had a positive effect?

The article posted just prior mt this post from the guardian suggest that some of those who were administered to NHS hospital we're "knocked out". I'm assuming they gave them something to help them sleep, but there's no official statement anyway no this, i can't find any more info, except here really.

So I'd really appreciate any input on what we can do to help him sleep, what others here have done, especialyl as far a taking sleeping pills or solutions. Even if it's something like night nurse, would it help?
 
I have no medical knowledge, please bear this in mind if taking my advice.

As I mentioned in an earlier post my son took this and was without sleep for days. He was given diazepam in the hospital to sedate him - which did not immediately make him sleep, just brought him 'down' slightly and made him less anxious. However, when it was all out of his system he did nothing BUT sleep.

I asked the doctor what I could give him if he was agitated at home, and he told me that over the counter Nytol would help. In the even I did not give him anything because he eventually became subdued naturally and slept, even if he was still not himself for a long time (delusional, paranoid and anxious for a long time after.)

However - if your friend is still in this state some time after taking the drug, I would be be inclined to take him back to hospital or at least to his GP.

Edit: Because they know so little about this drug - I would telephone NHS 24 or a GP to check it IS ok to give your friend Nytol or similar. You just never know how he will react - this drug is in a class of it's own it seems.
 
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I have no medical knowledge, please bear this in mind if taking my advice.

As I mentioned in an earlier post my son took this and was without sleep for days. He was given diazepam in the hospital to sedate him - which did not immediately make him sleep, just brought him 'down' slightly and made him less anxious. However, when it was all out of his system he did nothing BUT sleep.

I asked the doctor what I could give him if he was agitated at home, and he told me that over the counter Nytol would help. In the even I did not give him anything because he eventually became subdued naturally and slept, even if he was still not himself for a long time (delusional, paranoid and anxious for a long time after.)

However - if your friend is still in this state some time after taking the drug, I would be be inclined to take him back to hospital or at least to his GP.

Edit: Because they know so little about this drug - I would telephone NHS 24 or a GP to check it IS ok to give your friend Nytol or similar. You just never know how he will react - this drug is in a class of it's own it seems.

If you don't mind me asking how long was he like this? How long did it take for effects to wear off and how long to fade altogether? His biggest complaint is how fast his heart is racing. It's now near 7 days and we asked him how he felt compared to day one. Although we expected him to say much better, he said he felt as bad as he did on day 1. This is realyl odd from a watching perspective as on day one he seemed a million times worse, he seems alot calmer now and did sleep somewhat last night but he thinks he's no better.
 
If you don't mind me asking how long was he like this? How long did it take for effects to wear off and how long to fade altogether? His biggest complaint is how fast his heart is racing. It's now near 7 days and we asked him how he felt compared to day one. Although we expected him to say much better, he said he felt as bad as he did on day 1. This is realyl odd from a watching perspective as on day one he seemed a million times worse, he seems alot calmer now and did sleep somewhat last night but he thinks he's no better.


Hey - I hope your mate is ok and starting to feel better.

My son was completely high/tripping psychotic for about 72 hours from the first line. (Although he did O/D on the stuff...took two or three more lines because he was feeling nothing ...then it kicked in big time and the 'fun' began) It took about a week to get it out of his system, and two weeks for my son to appear to be normal although I have to say he is definitely more paranoid and anxious than he ever was before. He lives alone, and has had to come home to us because he just cannot be on his own in the flat all this time on. So, I think sometimes after an episode like this it is possible to be left really anxious when your heart isn't really racing. Can you take his pulse? Look on the internet how to take a wrist pulse accurately. Anything from 60 up to 95bpm is classed in the normal range.

I don't want to scare you but some of these drugs can be cardio toxic, and affect the heart rhythm permanently. If he is having arrythmia or rhythm disturbance, you should really get him seen by medical staff asap.
 
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