>>Originally Posted by bubbles69 View Post
My partner and i are not exactly new to the scene and have tried a few other herbal high products on the market and never experienced or could have imagined what was about to happen to us in the next week, thats right i said week!!!
We both shared 1gram of ivory wave and very quickly the effects kicked in, at first it was intense rush and constant buzz, our hearts were racing and does give you a horny feeling, great we thought. The buzz didn't wear off and we began tripping out quite badly seeing thngs and hearing things that weren't there but still nothing major. It gets worse!!!
Neither of us were capable of sleep or even contemplating it, soon morning came around but we were still both buzzing and rushing so intensly our heart beat hadn't calmed down and the time you expect the come down to kick in your still full awake experiencing the full effects, but by this pont it was getting too much but we couldn't stop it!
By the next day still no sleep at all the hallucinations and paranoia were so extreme that we couldn't function properly and had completely detatched ourself from what was real and what we were seeing!
I decided enough was enough and checked myself into hospital because i needed it to stop, my partner decided to stay at home and ride the storm as he put it. After being in A&E for about 4 hours my paranoia kicked back in and i discharged myself without further treatment. I had no real idea what was real and upon leaving the hospital went walk about in my local town for 48 hours. I thought everyone was against me and was talking to people who weren't there and was shouting random abuse at people who were. I made no effort to contact friends and family so they reported me missing and i was found after 48 hours sitting under the pier on the local beach dillusional.
Again i was hospitalised and after another 2 days and constant medical supervision and lots of controlled drugs by doctors i was well enough to go home but still require further counselling!
My partner i'm afraid was even worse!!!! As he stayed at home initially his paranoia and hallucinations almost literally drove him crazy! He thought other people were in the house trying to harm him, holding conversations with invisible people and trying to glue windows and doors shut to stop people getting in. He was taking in by friends and family and taken to hospital but agagin paranoia made him discharge himself.
Medical advice was sought from home and after 3 out of hours GP visits ambulance crews, police cars and a visit by the mental health team things were looking up!! It got so bad that the paranoia made him punch through a glass window, you serriously cannot sleep on this drug and there is no way out, it's also impossible to eat. It even makes you turn on friends and family or people trying to help. Again it took days of drugs and expert medical care for him to return to normal.
We thought we were pretty resiliant and could handle most things but this is dangerous!!!
I recommend that no one takes this!!!
LETHAL!<<
I agree with every word.
While I am not a user myself (anymore...used to dabble a bit thirty years ago) I found this site looking for information on Ivory Wave after it 'nearly' (we are still not sure) permanently disabled my 20 year old son.
He and I have a fairly good relationship - can talk about anything. I know he takes the occasional spliff - he always maintained he was happy with being stoned and mellow and didn't want to try stimulants. However, he met somone at a festival recently who suggested they get together to try the 'new' Mcat when they got home to his flat. They now think they got Ivory Wave - a yellowish brown substance not unlike yellow granulated demerarra sugar. They used about 6grams from Friday to Monday (both students.) No real alcohol involved with it - I found a couple of opened, half full cans in the flat later, no empties. Initially, my son says he felt ok...no real effect, although the mate was violently sick a few times and stopped taking it. Just curled up in a duvet and stared at the wall. Meanwhile my son was wide awake, manic and starting on the most hellish, cyclic trip of his own. He is a big lad - over six foot and sixteen stone, but he is a lightweight when it comes to trips, having only ever had weed. He doesn't know what day the phychosis started but he remembers every single second of it in amazing clarity . He spent hours hallucinating that people were camping in his front garden, there were men with weapons at every window, just staring at him and not moving for hours. Finally he went outside and kicked fu*ck out of 'them' ninja style all over the garden to the surprise of the neighbours who had had enough of the odd activity going on all weekend. Meanwhile, when he came back inside he found dead people/zombies/ standing in his front room and he panicked. His nose was full of seriously bloody snot and mucus which he was blowing on his tee shirt, and arming himself with a kitchen knife left his flat to go on a walkabout at 7am in a city centre which just coming to life. When the police finally managed to persuade him to come out from under the bushes, he did go with them to hospital where was was kept in for observation for 48 hours. He had not eaten, drank anything, or been able to pee for three days and his kidneys were begining to complain a little. As soon as he was in unfamiliar surroundings he seemed to be ok and stopped hallucinating. He was given diazepam, but when it wore off the hallucinations and paranoid delusions started again worse than before. ONE WEEK later he was still delusional and having auditory hallucinations. He told me he wanted to die, he felt his brain was vibrating and shaking, like it had been permanently changed. Psyche doctors would not look at him in hospital, as this is a recreational legal substance and he was not intentionally self harming. One month on and although this is a cliche, he really is a shadow of his former self. My clever, funny son is terrified of the dark, can't be on his own and is utterly depressed at the start of his third year at Manchester Uni.
Steer clear.