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^ Just wondering, what happens when you take keep taking MDMA throughout the night? My experience has been that after I redose once, I can't acheive any additional effects--I feel the same buzz. Just can't sleep. And taking any more molly feels like a waste. So please share what starts to happen when you ingest hundreds and hundreds of milligrams?
It's a waste. Makes you feel stupid for at least a full week (some people say longer).

Makes it more likely to develop mental problems. Not worth it...
 
FBC said:
It almost sounds like we could get along.
Why shouldn't we?

Just because we disagree from time to time shouldn't make us "enemies" man :) PLUR

My guess would be that you experienced a mild SS, without fever or hyponatremia.
The onset of SS involves more than 'sick' feelings...
It is normally a transition into hypertension and tachycardia without warning.
Did you have chest pain and racing heart?
Intestinal cramps?
racing heart/vomiting/diarhea/profusely sweating.

Preloading with 5-HTP is a big NO NO.
The presence of tryptophan along the GI is the culprit.
Even if several days have passed since taking the supplement, residual tryptophan could be hanging around waiting to be absorbed.
If this happens, even in the lower GI, while MDMA is consumed - you now have two overlapping sources of serotonin increase!
This is a major risk factor for SS, but it appears you got through it unscathed.

For the record, I consider more experienced rollers at an increased risk of SS.
As the serotonin network in the brain is re-wired, its ability to handle increases in serotonin activity is damaged.
Those who take higher or repeated doses are much more likely to report extreme reactions.
Ya I realize it now. It was a one time thing I tried a few years ago when I was overdoing it.

I don't mess with 5HTP, I just take 1000 mg regular tryptophan the next day and finish off with good proteins like milk/eggs/bananas/meat/fish etc.

I do drink a lot of milk though because it has lots of phenylalanine and tryptophan. FBC probably knows but for those reading, phenylalanine is the protein that is converted to maintain normal dopamine levels in the brain. The same way tryptophan/serotonin.

Milk is probably the best natural dietary source of proteins beneficial to the readers of the forum. Also great for building bone and muscle density when working out :)
 
The onset of SS involves more than 'sick' feelings...
It is normally a transition into hypertension and tachycardia without warning.
Did you have chest pain and racing heart?
Intestinal cramps?


I'm glad you sound like you are learning your lesson.
Yes, you probably had water in your bloodstream above normal levels.
You probably also experienced mild hyponatremia from SIADH.
It is the only good explanation for the urination problems.
But real hyponatremia normally involves a migraine from pressure on the brain.
You didn't describe this and you aren't describing neurological symptoms right now.

Racing heart and chest pains, yes i did. I also noticed that my extremities were turning a slightly blue. The vasoconstriction was worrying.

I wouldnt say the symptoms i have now are neurological but i am experiencing brain zaps (feels like an electric shock going through my head) especially when trying to sleep. Sleep paralysis and what feels like an odd sense of motion sickness. All typically what you would expect from abusing mdma.

As for dosage, the crystal i was using was weighed and tested by myself as always, i never use pre-weighed caps. The stuff that is available to me in the uk at the moment is very good quality. I know what your saying about crystal impuritys, crystal can range from 84% to 98%, what i have i cannot answer. Unless it is MDMA hcl it will not be 100%.

Yes i am learning a lesson, it is NYE tommorow and i wont be taking ecstasy. It would be pointless and more damaging.
 
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^ Just wondering, what happens when you take keep taking MDMA throughout the night? My experience has been that after I redose once, I can't acheive any additional effects--I feel the same buzz. Just can't sleep. And taking any more molly feels like a waste. So please share on what starts to happen when you ingest hundreds and hundreds of milligrams?

Scatty, wacked out. Still buzzing but like you say the same buzz which will lack the special qualitys that you would experience from the peak of your second or third dose. Its just pointless high chasing however when i dose 700mg i may be experiencing the same high that you would get when you dose 400/500mg. I only dose higher due to tolerance. It does sometimes get to a point when what you have gone through is indeed a waste which potentially causes more problems than its worth.
 
Shitttt, 1.2g's is alot man.

I do roughly near on a gram and just wanna sleep towards the end with my head aching a bit.

The trick i do is it may sound silly but i promise you it works.

Turn on the tap a little bit, just listen to the trickle, sit down or sometimes crouch slightly over the bowl of the toilet and think about something else. i have alot of trouble pissing on mandy and that always works
 
h yes lol brain zaps. those feel really weird lol. make me feel like im having a mini seizure sometimes. but damn. after reading FBC posts it finally dawned on me that i really need just wait a bit longer in between rolls. even a month in between is just not long enough for me anymore. it seems the more damage you do an the more you over do it the longer its gonna take to repair your brain. im thinking im gonna have to go another 30 days at least. you just cant abuse this drug. its not something you do every weekend at all. for me its getting to be a waste to try and roll. i get like this weird cracked out feeling lately instead of the usual good feeling. to everyone thinking this wont happen to them........keep it up an see. sooner or later you will be like shit............i cant roll anymore. you will find your self having to wait 4 months in between rolls just because you wanted to over do it one week. people just dont realize how easy it is to mess up your brain to the point that it takes years to start getting back to NORMAL serotonin levels. basically what FBC is saying in laymans terms.
 
oh and i also have problems takin a piss when im rollin hard. then at the end of my after glow i start pissing like it going out style. the first piss of the night is like a gallon lol. is it really that bad? i thought it was something that just happens to some people when rollin.
 
oh and i also have problems takin a piss when im rollin hard. then at the end of my after glow i start pissing like it going out style. the first piss of the night is like a gallon lol. is it really that bad? i thought it was something that just happens to some people when rollin.

Na thats good man, MDMA releases the anti-diuretic that stops you from slashing, no surprise after drinking water all night you're pissing like mad after. I pissed unbelievable amounts, each one lasting ages and feeling as if it should have been the last! Ended up with like 10-12 pisses in 2 hours - I drink too much water...
 
"Using MDMA for 8 years"

More like abusing it violently.

Not atall your wrong.

Only the first couple of years of using mdma i might of done it way too much. When experimenting with something so good at a young age it can be easy to do it a couple of weekends a month which isnt good atall. I have no intention to zap away my receptors, my breaks usually last 4months, sometimes considerably longer.
 
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Shitttt, 1.2g's is alot man.

I do roughly near on a gram and just wanna sleep towards the end with my head aching a bit.

The trick i do is it may sound silly but i promise you it works.

Turn on the tap a little bit, just listen to the trickle, sit down or sometimes crouch slightly over the bowl of the toilet and think about something else. i have alot of trouble pissing on mandy and that always works

Usually works yeah but didnt that time.
 
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