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The day after, 5-HTP helps. Just don't take it while still under the influence of MDA or MDMA.
Gate
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where can you get this normally
Supermarket or buy it online
Keep the dose sensible (no more than 2mg per kg of body weight and no more than 1 50% redose) and don't mix it with alcohol and I'd expect you to be feeling if not 100% then still pretty decent the next day. We're you drinking alcohol? How much did you take?
Doing this just makes me puke.
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Really ? i guess its kinda subjective. For me it just makes the mdma take a bit longer to kick in. I guess if you're moving around a lot i can see that happening though.
Was it at least an enjoyable puke ?
Absolutely everyone's mileage and preference will vary. In my case I find it quite uncomfortable having anything in my stomach when taking something serotonergic and I prefer for my dose to be absorbed as quickly as possible for consistency sake. If I'm taking it early in the day I'll skip breakfast and if it's later in the day I try to fast for 6 hours first.
Well, I felt great afterwards I guess!
I wonder why this happens, I can eat before, during, or after a roll without problem. Only higher doses of NEP, meth, amphetamine, or bupropion kill my appetite but only for a few hours at maximum.
That's interesting particularly eating during a roll, do you find that enjoyable? Does food taste better as it often does on psychedelics? Is there any appetite suppression at all?
I think remember you saying you've had quite extensive bowel surgery in the past? I wonder if that's a factor at all
Yeah, I'm going in for operation #17 some time this summer. I've got maybe 5-6 feet of intestine left, and it's only ileus. Ileostomy obviously as a result of this, and my allergies are like a roll of the dice every day which likely relates to the irregular nature of my gut microbiome. Luckily I don't have any food insensitivities, and the chronic pain is manageable with cannabis and kratom.
Both psychedelics and empathogens enhance my sense of taste to an almost inarticulable degree. The first year or so of using them, I experienced intense appetite suppresion, but after tripping every time my tolerance is down and rolling every 6-12 weeks, I noticed something odd. It should be noted, large quantities of dabs were consumed daily over this period, when I weighed them it ranged 1.5-2.5 full grams a day in a wasteless e-nail setup. The odd thing that I noticed was one day on a cartoonish amount of LSD, the munchies struck and an overcooked M&M brownie in a 9x9 pan became like one huge cookie that I ate with vigor and haste as if I'd never eaten before, and never would be able to again. @Felidaez made the brownies and thought they were essentially ruined because of being overcooked to the point of being crispy. It was a hot July day and I had never eaten anything better in multiple years, I ate it with such intensity that the roommates were looking at me in a most peculiar way. Since then, psychedelic/empathogenic munchies occur even without the presence of cannabis, which is pretty interesting. Some certain drugs induce certain types of munchies too, arylcyclohexylamines really make me crave sweet things and cold things, 2C-B could make me eat a pound of beef jerky if I had it on hand, etc.
I found the exact same thing with LSD and appetite, my first few times I took acid I could barely manage a handful of grapes until 12 hours after dropping but I can eat a meal now as long as I'm past the peak. I took 5 tabs at 4pm yesterday and was able to eat dinner at 8 (though it was a bit of a struggle tbh, I couldn't finish it).
Weed does make a big difference too. The earlier in the trip I start smoking the sooner I'm going to feel my appetite creeping back in. And of course food is delicious. LSD and 2cb are particularly sensual and I remember one occasion mixing the two with mescaline where I had a late night picnic and every single mouthful was it's own self contained experience, it was overwhelming. Overwhelmingly delicious pakoras.
But MDMA still nukes my appetite as amphetamine does. Maybe because I only take mdma a couple of times a year while I take LSD and 2cb all the fucking time.
When I was 18-21 I consumed probably hundreds of grams of amphetamine (and many meth pressed Addies), I'd usually house 400-600mg in a 24-36 hour period. Often numerous times a week. I suspect that it probably cooked a lot of the side effects of amphetamine away, as nowadays even my pulse and BP won't rise.
I absolutely have to try this cross, I'm sitting on a half kilo of cactus powder right now that I just need to extract from, but via foolery I've packed most of my lab equipment in a storage unit that's well over a hundred degrees fahrenheit, so it may take me a while to get to the point of extracting these sadly.
LSD and mescaline together is pure magic.
In hindsight I wouldn't introduce 2cb into that mix again. Bodyload. I wrote about it here somewhere I'll see if I can find the thread.
Edit: that was easy
Edit edit: and now I see you must have already seen it because you responded in 2023.
Where does the time go?
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Awesome, thank you for the info!LSD and mescaline together is pure magic.
In hindsight I wouldn't introduce 2cb into that mix again. Bodyload. I wrote about it here somewhere I'll see if I can find the thread.
Edit: that was easy
Sorry to hear you experienced a rough comedown.
I hope you're starting to feel a bit better now.Others have already offered some great suggestions, and I'd like to add a few of my own.
Space out your rolls. I recommend waiting at least 8 weeks between them. If you're still in the honeymoon period and experiencing "the magic," try to hold off for 3 months if possible. You'll thank yourself later in 2 years when it's still almost as magical as now, but I understand this might not be realistic for everyone. At the very least, aim for 4 weeks between rolls.
As for the next experience, plan your initial dose carefully. Have half of your initial dose ready for when you feel the need to take more. I know how tempting it can be as your 4-hour peak starts to fade, but resist the urge to take any more. Accept that the best part is over, and focus on preparing for the next stage of the experience.
Taking anything beyond your initial dose plus one top-up (approximately 50% of the initial dose) offers very little benefit compared to the negatives you will experience a few hours later. It might extend the peak slightly, but the euphoria won't increase however, it can be prolonged further at the current level, but it's not worth. Instead, it will mostly maintain the physical aspects, like enhanced visuals, audio sensitivity, jaw chattering, and eye wobbles.
You will be thankful the following day if you can manage to stick to that plan. Stay safe, hydrated, enjoy many great times ahead, and remember Moderation is the key.
A.T
LucidSDreamr
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With that extensive of surgical history will they still not prescribe you any pain medicine and that is why you are forced to use Kratom? Or do you just prefer Kratom over pharmaceuticals?
More potent mu opioid agonists tend to throw me into violent blackouts for some reason? Not sure why, but it's some of the most dysphoric shit I've ever experienced. I used to, and still could have a script for dilaudid, lorazepam, promethazine, and fent patches, but the opioids didn't do anything other than make me fight strangers and not remember it. I intend on trying to get scripts going rn for hydroxyzine and/or promethazine, aripiprazole, zolpidem, bupropion, and methylphenidate until I can self-supply phenmetrazine.
Doctors look at my medical record and literally just ask "So what do you want?", no joke.
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