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MDMA lost it's magic. MDA?

severely etarded said:
methamphetamine releases those chemicals too, now is methamphetamine also "cross-tolerant"?

Perhaps there share affinity for some of the same receptors. calling them cross tolerant is a bit of a stretch.

I'm gonna go with real life experience, that I took MDA one day and took 1 MDMA pill the very next and still had a full MDMA experience. Well actually about 3/4 pill, but you get the picture ;)

@ OP - taking a break works. What also works is just having a good time; worrying about "magic" itself can kill a roll
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Just because you get high does NOT mean there is no cross tolerance. That's naive, I would expect better from you..


Methamphetamine and MDMA are EXTREMELY cross tolerant. But no, as far as my knowledge goes, meth does not release Oxytocin and Prolactin which leads me to my next point..



^ The "magic" of the drug is attributed to the psychedelic effects of MDMA, from my experience. Overuse of the drug causes downregulation of receptor sites over time, and while you may still be able to take the chemical and get "high" that does NOT mean it has the same affinity for those receptor sites as it used to have.


After a long break from MDMA and you pop a pill... it's a fucking ORGASM. There is no other way to describe it, you're body is releasing Prolactin which

Prolactin provides the body with sexual gratification after sexual acts: The hormone counteracts the effect of dopamine, which is responsible for sexual arousal. This is thought to cause the sexual refractory period. The amount of prolactin can be an indicator for the amount of sexual satisfaction and relaxation. Unusually high amounts are suspected to be responsible for impotence and loss of libido
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and also oxytocin which:

Recent studies have begun to investigate oxytocin's role in various behaviors, including orgasm, social recognition, pair bonding, anxiety, and maternal behaviors.[2] For this reason, it is sometimes referred to as the "love hormone".
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Overuse of MDMA causes these and other neurochemical to not work the way they did before, and while you can still take MDMA and "roll" (is it rolling if it feels more like speed than the love drug..?) the effects are mainly stimulantive and hardly good for any kind of positive introspection or lessons from the drug.



So laugh, you can be quiet about there being "no magic". Just because you like a little bit of euphoria with the same effects caffeine can give you, doesn't mean the rest of us do. ;)
 
The novelty of sex often wears of as does the novelty of mdma.

There is no magic. It's just chemicals in the brain being released.

This magic is just bs like moonrocks. I put it down to Mercian hyperbole.

:)
 
In response to Folley on the topic of Prolactin and Oxytocin(Keep in my mind I know very little of chemistry so sorry if this is irrelevant), this is rather loosely affiliated as it says Prolactin is sexual gratification AFTER sexual acts but when I was taking MDMA not knowing I had lost the magic I would get extremely aroused and the only thing on my mind would be sex or pleasuring myself (though impossible to attain an erection even with help). Maybe my body was still releasing the Prolactin as normal? Sexual desire never crossed my mind while rolling when I could still feel the effects but once I had lost the magic it was all I wanted to do under the influence.
 
for me, when i lost the magic i just stopped using, and have not used mdma/mda for 2 years.
edit: i tried methylone a couple times after i "stopped my use"
it really isnt that terrible. if youve already lost your magic, bk-mdma is loads more fun then mdma that does nothing for you

i find shrooms give me everyfeeling i seek, or sought with mdma, and more
and beleive me, i thought mdma was the god chemical, complete fanboy haha.
 
I've been using MDMA for 5 years now, quite frequently getting on it once/twice a week in the summer. Currently on it now and am buzzing my tits off.

I think a lot of this "magic" thing is overdone. Youre either taking it too often or consuming too much. The next experieneces are never gonna be better than your first few times.
 
If it were really overdone then I don't think so many people would say that they have lost it. You can't really compare just your body to others. I agree with you in a sense that I think a lot of people say they have lost the magic but they've just abused it to a point where they have a hopeless tolerance and their body can't keep up with the usage. With what Foreigner said about how it seems as though the receptors down regulate, that is truly how it feels for me too. You're saying you used for once or twice a week during a summer, I've never consumed MDMA that frequently. I've only taken it maybe 10-15 times in my life and I no longer feel the effects.
 
people are sheep buddy. we read shit on an online forum or see shit on the tv and believe it...

some people just dont gel well with some drugs. it happens.

im still confused as to what exactly you want to hear?

I've only taken it maybe 10-15 times in my life and I no longer feel the effects.
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i would cry myself a river or give up on the shit and move onto greener pastures.
 
If MDMA is getting old and has "lost" the magic, MDA is the last thing id be looking to put in me

Have a rest dude !
 
MollyFein74 said:
If MDMA is getting old and has "lost" the magic, MDA is the last thing id be looking to put in me

Have a rest dude !
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what's the point in a "rest" if you've taken it 15 times in 10 years with 6 times of that in the first year (spaced 2 months each)? has mda been unsuccessful for you in that situation?
 
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