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MDA vs MDMA (mega-merged)

I'm not a fan of MDA -- I am highly sensitive to it (but not to other stimulants) and I get a lot of side effects with it (extreme chills, nausea, bad jaw clenching) that I don't get with MDMA.

For me MDMA also lasts longer, as I burn out very quickly from the intensity of MDA. That being said it has lasted longer for everyone else I have known. I'd say 7 hours or so compared to 4 for MDMA.

MDA is definitely less 'lovey'/empathetic and also less flooring because it is more of a stimulant. I do however find it much more sexual. I have never had any interest in sex while on MDMA but I had a very nice session on MDA.

For me the visual effects with MDA are very mild, mostly colour and hue stuff.
 
To put it simply, MDA is "harder" than MDMA. Less emotional, more intense. The comedown sucks ASS!
 
fairnymph said:

MDA is definitely less 'lovey'/empathetic and also less flooring because it is more of a stimulant.
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any stimulant can put you on your ass like a tard... And mda is very good at that, too. It's all about the dose
 
fairnymph said:
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I disagree. I've done high doses of meth, it never puts 'me on my ass' the way that MDMA was.
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Offcourse not the way that mdma had, else it would have been mdma..
But have you not had moments that you prefered just sitting, staring on meth because your dopamine levels were so high? (at least I think it's dopamine)
 
My 5c worth from trying MDMA and MDA...


Differences on MDA:

- Come up is way more harsh, more anxious more depressed.
- 'peak' has more physical effects, shakky blurred vision, walk bit crap
- No real peak or feeling floaty, euphoric, peaceful feeling or rush.
- Felt disconected from the music, no good feelings
- Moments of 'everything feels weird', more a trippy feeling at times
- You can take more pills becasue you don't feel much, euphoric peak or duration and it seems to ware off fairly quick and meanwhile you don't really realise you're rolling (or tripping) until too late when the after effects sneak up on you and you're smashed or rather trippin balls 8(
- Long and strong after effects.
- Moments of uncomfortable, realisations (trippy feelings or moments) as opposed to the peaceful, beautiful and relaxed realisations and insights from MDMA
- After effects of short term memory and concentration way more fucked
- Some crazy and imapropriate impulses to do or say things
- After effects of crazy barrages of images and thoughts with eyes closed
- Uncomfortable thoughts running out of control and can't slow them down so can't sleep for hours, although almost asleep is pretty peaceful
- Eyes really dilated for a long time
- lacked that 'perfect' feeling
- chemical taste seemed a bit different


Similarities on MDA:
- Physically feels much the same as MDMA roll although more shakkyness, balance effected and blurry vision.
- Empathy maybe not quite the same ammount but still a lot. Feeling kind to others and looking out for friends ect.
- Openess, and honesty (lots of really honest, open and trusting chit chat like on MDMA but sometimes I had a few moments of feeling uncomfortable)
- After effects of feeling overall good wellbeing, relaxed, happy and chillin on... can dance to music and wander around amused by anything good because everythings pretty nice at this stage
 
Personally, I find that the big difference (but not the only one) is that MDA produces much more distortion of the sense of time passing. Time can seem to pass a bit slower or faster with MDMA, but with MDA you can get time dilation or contraction comparable with full blown psychedelics like LSD or mescaline
 
upon much more thought, i realized something awesome... my favorite rolls of all time, 'blue bombs', were totally mda. they lasted forever, sex on them was ridiculous, upon more thought i can remember multiple times on those specific rolls (they were around for a good while) where you would see things/ hear things, and i can actually remember a specific time where i had my eyes closed, in a room by myself, and was totally tripping, actually one of my best moments tripping ever, and all i had taken was teh rolls. sweet, now i'm psyched to try mda again
 
fastandbulbous said:
Personally, I find that the big difference (but not the only one) is that MDA produces much more distortion of the sense of time passing. Time can seem to pass a bit slower or faster with MDMA, but with MDA you can get time dilation or contraction comparable with full blown psychedelics like LSD or mescaline
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hmm last time when i was eatin yellow , orange speckled mitsi
the time passed very slowly, and i know theese pills were rather MDMA (i've done lots of pills so i recognize thisfeeling like "mhhhhhhmmmmm the world is so wicked ;]") so on MDA time passes slower or faster ??
and on MDMA slower ?? or does it depend on one's brain ??
 
^^^It's all about perception dude........what one thing does to another can completely contrast with someone else...

IMO i don't think time is too distorted on MDA or even MDMA for that matter.....not compared to the way hallucegenics fuck with time anyway.....
 
that's weird, in all the things i've tried (lots and lots of rolls, and tons of mushies) i've never noticed much time distortion. i mean i'd occasionally lose track of time a little, but nothing that couldn't be explained by just having a good time and not looking at the clock
 
well, as we all know, you can get visual distortions on mdma. and, as we've determined (in this thread i may add), mda produces greater visual distortions. so i'm gonna go with mda probably, mdma maybe
 
i am a person who loves to trip especially on hallucinagens but my best visual experience came on mda. first roll. was sitting on the coach and just watched my surroundings appear as they were 4 to 5 times faster then actual speed. sort of like everything was fast forwarded. if any of you have seen garden state, the part where he rolls and is just sitting there is exactly what i experienced. it was simply amazing.
 
Sprinklervibes said:
Offcourse not the way that mdma had, else it would have been mdma..
But have you not had moments that you prefered just sitting, staring on meth because your dopamine levels were so high? (at least I think it's dopamine)
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I have done this with OC before. When i get like 500 mgs i just sit there and look at it and i feel happy that I know its mine and I will be high for a few days. The fact that I sometimes get 500 mgs free OC gives me a buzz for like an hour and I feel happy and I wait to do it because I don't even feel a craving until atleast an hour after i get it (when it is a decent score and its free or stolen)
 
shubs said:
seeing wire glasses on all your friends.... is that MDA or MDMA probably?
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That phenomenon has been mentioned by others on this board in the context of MDA, although others say they've had it with high doses of MDMA. I'll do a search and see what I can find.

Found this thread. Looks like that can happen with MDMA or MDA. But then MDMA is metabolised into MDA by the body anyway, so there'll be some crossover in effects.
 
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if mdma is metabolized into mda, how much of the effect of mdma is unique (i'm assuming not too much, as the experiences are soo similar)?
 
^^ what do you mean exactly? All I can conclude from the fact that the liver metabolizes mdma into mda is that at high mdma doses, things get really trippy :)

I seem to have a relatively higher tolerance to mda than to mdma, which sort of sucks if you're all on the same amount of mda and one friend says his vision is shaking/stretching and the other keeps seeing random shit..
I do get nice close eyed visuals(but what's the use of taking a drug and then closing your eyes?), and I've seen peoples faces distort heavily from a normal mdma dose+speed+sleep deprivation, and when I did rilatin on top of that, I got the typical rilatin visual distortions but open-eyed: sharp, mathematical edges with dissonant colours(iron, chromatic blue, pale green, yellow) around the outline of figures and colours.

My guess is sleep deprivation has allot to do with visual distortions, and maybe your body lacking food too? General deprivation, like some shamans do, stay awake and eat nothing for days to create visions and the like..
 
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