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MDA vs MDMA (mega-merged)

MDA is very similar to MDMA, and yes it does "dump" serotonin just like MDMA.

MDA is generally more "trippy" than a regular role. Visuals are more common on MDA as well. It can be slightly less euphoric.

There is a cross tolerance, they are very similar in chemical makeup.

I find the MDA comedown to usually be harsher.

And finally, I would treat MDA just the same as MDMA. Space out your rolls.

edit: also, my experience has been that a dose of MDA will last longer than a comparable MDMA dose
 
I had some *suspected* MDA pills last week and it was un-fucking-real. I say if you can find some and you know their content for sure- get as many as you can because its kick-ass.

Sign me up for that ride one more time, y0!
 
DownRodeo said:
MDA is very similar to MDMA, and yes it does "dump" serotonin just like MDMA.

MDA is generally more "trippy" than a regular role. Visuals are more common on MDA as well. It can be slightly less euphoric.

There is a cross tolerance, they are very similar in chemical makeup.

I find the MDA comedown to usually be harsher.

And finally, I would treat MDA just the same as MDMA. Space out your rolls.

edit: also, my experience has been that a dose of MDA will last longer than a comparable MDMA dose
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Nicely put.

The comedowns for me anyway, are much harsher physically. What I mean by that is, I get so incredibly nauseous on the comedown. I have never actually thrown up, sometimes I wish I had...8(

Mda also does not produce the incredible loved up feelings that mdma does, as DownRodeo said, it is much more trippy than mdma.
 
Mda cannot be "swapped" for mdma. They are different drugs, they do have some similarities but they are different drugs.

Mdma is not a "brand" name for the drug, it is the chemical name for the drug.

Maybe I am misunderstanding you, but you are not making any sense at all.
 
MDA is cheaper for chemist to use it dont make u roll as hard as MDMA would, so i call it generic.
 
^^

I don't think that you have any basis in what you are posting. It just sounds like mis-information to me.

The effects are slightly different. Mda produces a more psychedelic experience than mdma does. Some people enjoy mda more than they enjoy mdma because it is a different experience.
 
Ive heard it from plenty people that MDA is a cheaper chem..i hate MDA myself, i dont get psychs at all. Where u gettin ur info?
 
www.erowid.org

Also, if you do a search on bluelight you will see that there is validity to what I am saying. 8(

Were any of the people who told you this actual chemists?

Mda is not an "inferior" substitute to mdma. As I said before, it is different chemical, it may be structurally similar to mdma, but it still has it's different effects.
 
Hewhomustnotbenamed said:
Ok, so I have a few questions on MDA. I've done a bit of a search but wasn't satisfied with the info I found.

Does MDA cause your brain to dump seratonin in the same way as MDMA?

Is there a cross tolerance between the two chemicals?

What is the MDA comedown like?
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I only did MDA once, and believe it or not it was around 1979-1980. Despite all this, the memory of it stands out as if illumined. It was the best drug experience of my life. The comedown is pretty hardcore, but IMO well worth the high.
 
Peanut21 said:
its like a generic MDMA a lot cheaper i don't really like it myself
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You don't know what you're talking about.

I bet you've never even smoked a joint.
 
i dont know if this means its easier to synth or cheaper as im not a chemist but i read this somewhere.

To a well stirred, cooled mixture of 34g of 30% H202 (hydrogen peroxide) in 150g 80% HCO2H (formic acid) there was added, dropwise, a solution of 32.4g isosafrole in 120ml acetone at a rate that kept the reaction mixture from exceeding 40 deg C. This required a bit over 1 hour, and external cooling was used as necessary. Stirring was continued for 16 hours, and care was taken that the slow exothermic reaction did not cause excess heating. An external bath with running water worked well. During this time the solution progressed from an orange color to a deep red. All volatile components were removed under vacuum which yielded some 60g of a very deep residue. This was dissolved in 60ml of MeOH (methyl alcohol -- methanol), treated with 360ml of 15% H2SO4 (sulfuric acid), and heated for 3 hours on the steam bath. After cooling the mixture was extracted with 3x75ml Et2O (diethyl ether) or C6H6 (benzene). Its recommended that, the pooled extracts can washed -- first with H2O and then with dilute NaOH (sodium hydroxide). Then the solvent is removed under vacuum to afford 20.6g 3,4-methylenedioxyphenylacetone (3,4-methylenedioxybenzyl methyl ketone). The final residue may be distilled at 2.0mm/108-112 deg C, or at about 160 deg C at the water pump.


Add 23g 3,4-methylenedioxyphenylacetone to 65g HCONH2 (formamide) and heat at 190 deg for five hours. Cool, add 100ml H20, extract with C6H6 (benzene) and evaporate in vacuum the extract. Add 8ml MeOH (methyl alcohol -- methanol) and 75ml 15% HCl to residue, heat on water bath two hours and extract in vacuum (or basify with KOH and extract the oil with benzene and dry, evaporate in vacuum) to get 11.7 g 3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine (MDA).
To produce MDMA substitute N-methylformamide for formamide in the above synthesis.
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im not going to look too far into it but the search i did actually showed Formamide costing slightly more...
 
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Nek0! said:
You don't know what you're talking about.

I bet you've never even smoked a joint.
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haha if u only knew go take a look at my gallery fool
 
Peanut21 said:
haha if u only knew go take a look at my gallery fool
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Lol what does your gallery prove?

I don't know what to think of MDA, first of all I'm not sure I've ever had it completely pure, I think there was always some MDMA in the pill too. Sometimes a lot, sometimes not so much.
I've noticed it brings out an evil side in me :) I like to make jokes and have fun, whereas MDMA is more serious. On a few MDA-influenced highs I was barely able to socialize due to feeling so fucked up and not being able to form sentences(I get that often on psychedelics), being in my own little world, not thinking about much, just enjoying the high which is pure bliss.

If you have a tolerance to MDMA, chances are good that you will be surprised by how much of an effect MDA has on you. I've noticed that a few times. Usually MDA/MDMA pills in my area are rather lowly dosed(probably to not freak people out too much or something), but when switching from a time of taking too much good MDMA pills to one of these rather shitty pills, I get floored!

I also must say MDA fucks with my vision. Days after the high I notice much more static in my vision and colors being less "true", especially with the darker colors. This decreases with time, but never seems to go away completely.
 
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