May be getting locked up, been there?

[rackazoobob]

Start making calls to see if opiate replacement programs exist within the prison system you may be entering. I don't know what you have in the US. I've heard that over here if you are already on a program be it methadone or suboxone then if you are imprisioned you can continue dosing inside. It may be worth asking your pain management Dr what the score is with patients going to to jail.....you certainly won't be the first chronic pain sufferer to end up in the can.

I hope you can get through your time without extended time. There are a million ways that can and does happen and you've recognized you are particularly vulnerable to this situation cos of your opiate dependence, propensity to violence in stressful situations including Pain and WD........I guarantee you will find many other reasons to smash some heads in jail, the places are jam packed with clowns all looking for a shot at the title. Good luck and take care Bob.

Sound advice...thank you Bob.

 

[rackazoobob]

While I agree to trying to ween off do that on your own for WCS, but get a note ready from your doctor stating your daily intake clearly (ER or IR formulation, mg dose, how many times a day and what time you are scheduled to dose) and that "it would be harmful to your health to discontinue the medication as it will lead to withdrawals and a return of (insert chronic pain condition here). Because of these reasons discontinuing this patients medications would be immoral and a violation of patients rights to fair treatment even in prison." While this is nothing garunteed and pulled straight from my ass it can give you an idea of what type of letter would be a good defense Z's but don't be surprised if they throw it out. Just keep a backup saved with someone you know as it could be used to state they denied you needed healthcare if you're denied medication.

Just to remember to ween as if you were getting cut off as WCS you're cut off and withdrawals aren't too bad while BCS your tolerance is reduced and so when they give you a dose in jail you get high for a while.

Thank you taco. Something I hadn't thought of, but a very good idea.

 

[rackazoobob]

If you're in the United States, you're options are severely limited when incarcerated, either in Jail or Prison. The medications and treatment that you will receive will vary heavily dependent upon the Dr. and the rules of the institution. I've heard that it's not commonplace for narcotics to be prescribed, with or without an existing prescription, but again, this varies on a case by case basis. For instance, I think a terminal cancer patient will likely get Opioids, whereas someone with a bad knee might end up toughing it out.

Really you need to plan on withdrawing before you get to prison if you do go. Being sick in the comfort of your own home is definitely preferrable to doing it in a cell. You will likely be provided an NSAID for the aches and pains and if you go for a couple of weeks straight without sleep, you might be prescribed some Quetiapine (Seroquel).

I would highly suggest figuring this out before you go. All joking aside, withdrawing from Opioids in jail was probably the worst, most nightmarish experience of my life.

Thank you keif.

 

[rackazoobob]

Having done time in both state prison and county jail, I can tell you this: opiates are occasionally given. Usually for serious stuff like a broken bone, etc

You would be wise to be off your meds before you go. They don't generally give opioids for stuff like back pain. They don't care much if you're in pain--you cease to be a human and become an inmate. Ibuprofen is the solution for everything in the pain field from a stubbed toe to headache to slipped discs.

There are opioid replacement programs in county jail. You have to be on a methadone program already (for instance). Then you will be dosed while in the county. If you get sent up state you are SOL. Unless you are pregnant. Then they will maintain you til you give birth. But these programs are for addicts not pain management.

I'm telling you, in Pennsylvania, pain management equals ibuprofen. Particularly up state. In the county it sort of depends what is on the formulary. One county would give Tylenol 3 fairly easily but not long term. They did give Tramadol. I had a cellie with back issues (MRI confirmed) get Tramadol and Vicodin.

You will not go in with opioid scripts and get them. If you're lucky they'll store them in property til you leave. But highly likelythey will disappear.

You will see medical upon intake. Some counties will continue a prescription if they can verify thru the pharmacy you are currently on it--usually that is for psych meds/benzos.

Best thing you can do is go in NOT dependent on any med, because the likelihood of continuing on the med is not in your favor

Thank you crzy.

 

[rackazoobob]

Hey warrior...just wanted to say thanks for your kind words and advice. My mom was a bit of a granola flake and I am a firm believer in homeopathic remedies. I had a very tragic year in 2014-2015 lost mom dad and best friend. That's how I ended up back on the oc. I plan on moving to a more mj friendly state when this is all said and done. Keep in touch. I'll keep posting updates as I go.

 

[rackazoobob]

I appreciate all the good input from everybody. Looks like a pretty friendly place to hang out. Maybe even make some friends. B

 

[tacodude]

Glad I could give advice. I wish you the best.... You're strong you'll make it through this. I just wish they would actually care for those our country has sent out to such pointless wars.... That's another topic though.

 

[rackazoobob]

Made it through today on 80mgSR or SA(says sr on bottle but pharmacist corrected me and said it is actually sa, which is weird cuz ive been calling it sr for a while with no issue)...not much trouble. Some sweating a bit anxious, that's about it. Took about 1200 mg gabapentin...they give me a lot of that for nerve pain and cluster headaches.

 

[rackazoobob]

While im telling what I am taking I may as reveal everything. Also took 1000mg ibuprofen broken up with food. I started the Le-Vel Thrive program this month so there are a lot of essential vitamis and minerals + in the mix. Their website has all the info if you want a list of everything in that.

 

[rackazoobob]

I generally eat pretty healthy...stay away from most processed or fast foods. Im no Jack Lalane, but im generally pretty healthy other than a broken back, neck and knees.

 

[iamanon]

In the US...might be going to prison in April. I am on a fairly high dose of oxy. for pain mgmt. and pretty sure they aren't gonna let me take my meds with me if I get locked up. Anybody been through this with advice or input would be appreciated. I am anticipating cold turkey withdrawal symptoms if I do go away. Just wondering if anyone who reads this has ever gone through it before and has any legit. helpful advice. Thanks, B

Buy a bunch of Suboxone Strips. Taper off it. Not to mention you could make bank. Fairly small so easy to find place to smuggle. Do they really cavity search you? Or X-Ray wouldnt that be less invasive? Never been to prison so IDK only jail. And ive gone cold turkey off subs 3 times, its 75% anxiety in your head. Meditation, controlled breathing, hot showers will help.

Good luck man stay positive.

 

[Druggiesrpathetic]

Why do you think you're going to jail? Also don't follow these other people's advice saying to buy suboxone ... that's a controlled substance and federal law prohibits transfer to anyone other than to whom it was prescribed ... If you're already worried about jail I don't think breaking the law is going to help your situation.

 

[Invisible Helper]

I've had a few people I know kick in jail/prison ... Craziest thing one time we were talking about scenarios how bad it would be like soaked freezing kicking having to throw up and on a bunk next to 40 dudes and just someone trying to fight you for whatever reason. And right when we finished talking a cop pulled up next to my friends pad and arrested him for a bench warrant and he started kicking that night literally arrested 10 minutes after we talked about kicking in jail ... It happened once to me but I was in there only 1 day sick it's weird like someone said, your brain just tells you "ok I can't get any no matter what there's no body I can walk up to or drive 3 hours anywhere at 3 am to get any remote type of opiate " you just accept it. It's almost impossible to kick with a choice of being at home , but it's not until you come home kicking from jail you realize how lucky you are to have that pillow on your bed... And a hot shower any time and weed and any OTC you want you're free take advantage I know it's hard to make the contrast

 

[rackazoobob]

Heading down to the whole foods store. They claim to have natural remedies to help with withdrawls, guaranteed.... I always laugh at that. Guaranteed. We shall see. I am tapering, started yesterday. Started with 20mg sa this morning... a little shaky but not feeling aweful. Going to try and stay busy.

 

[rackazoobob]

I might be going to prison for hurting people who ask stupid questions like: "why do you think you are going to jail?" Come on...grow up.

 

[Marvin Martian]

Semper Fi devil dog! I know that this will be hard - but you HAVE done much much harder things. You are a United States Marine and you have pushed yourself beyond what you thought your physical and mental limits are. You are extremely powerful. Remember the day you were dropped in boot??? Your world went upside down in a hurry!! DI everywhere - the room spinning. Remember that first morning after? 0500 and BAM your feet are on the deck. Those early morning runs / forced marches. Your lungs killing you - legs weak - your civilian mind telling you to quit. It was you HEART that got your through this.
You mentioned your sons. You put this in your head and you keep it front and center. You are going to beat this - you are going to come out clean and STRONGER. And NEVER again or you going to let anyone take you away from them. They are worth ANY pain you will experience. THEY are the prize - you keep your mind on them.
You know damn good and well that the most powerful part of you is not your frame - its your WILL. You are going to overcome this. You are strong - your Marine Corps spirit cannot be broken!
You have my very confident prayers brother

 

[Tinker55]

GABA works pretty well to keep w/d symptoms under control but be careful about your dosage. I realize you're a big guy but it can cause w/ds by itself.

If you get your Dr. To write whatever the jail or prison requires for continuation of non-narcotic scripts, you might be in ok shape. Not all jails are like on TV and many have fairly up to date medical. Communication between your Dr, and the jail's medical staff is your best shot.

Thank you for your service and good luck.

 

[rackazoobob]

Semper Fi MarvinMartian...ty brother. Took my 2nd 20mg dose @ 1:50. Feeling a bit shaky and short breathed. No liquid BMs yet. I plan on weaning down to 0mg OC by the end of the week. Im taking it easy an the gaba. I figure no more than 1800mg or so /day shouldn't be too bad...I have been taking 600mg/day for a while cuz of nerve pain and cluster headaches. Bought 10lbs. Eucalyptus Epson's and medicated bath soak. A bit spendy but bought 250 125g Test4 tabs from whole foods store. Took 2 so far seem okay...we will see how they help when I drop completely....Will keep y'all posted.

 

[rackazoobob]

Thank you tinker...Like many of my brothers...I knew I was going to be a Marine by the time I was 12...think it is a divine thing,lol or just crazy...still not sure about that. God bless.

 

[rackazoobob]

BTW Test4 is a strong Kratom supplement that supposedly binds to opioid receptors and helps with WD symptoms. That's what ive been told...we shall see.