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May be getting locked up, been there?

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In the US...might be going to prison in April. I am on a fairly high dose of oxy. for pain mgmt. and pretty sure they aren't gonna let me take my meds with me if I get locked up. Anybody been through this with advice or input would be appreciated. I am anticipating cold turkey withdrawal symptoms if I do go away. Just wondering if anyone who reads this has ever gone through it before and has any legit. helpful advice. Thanks, B
 
I've been to county jail and prison many times! I'm a female heroin addict and trust me when i say this you don't wanna go thru withdrawals in jail!! trust me i've done it more than once and its absolutley miserable it almost will break you as a person bringing you to the brink of insanity!! NO BULLSHIT!! either get some suboxone and do a quick detox/taper with those i find those are easy to kick with or if you can't get those detox at home and get any comfort meds you can benzos shit like that. trust me it will be way more bearable and comfortable to kick cold turkey at home than in jail TRUST ONE WHO KNOWS!!! you gotta remember no matter how you kick you'll feel a little shitty you just gotta man up and decide!!!
 
While I agree to trying to ween off do that on your own for WCS, but get a note ready from your doctor stating your daily intake clearly (ER or IR formulation, mg dose, how many times a day and what time you are scheduled to dose) and that "it would be harmful to your health to discontinue the medication as it will lead to withdrawals and a return of (insert chronic pain condition here). Because of these reasons discontinuing this patients medications would be immoral and a violation of patients rights to fair treatment even in prison." While this is nothing garunteed and pulled straight from my ass it can give you an idea of what type of letter would be a good defense Z's but don't be surprised if they throw it out. Just keep a backup saved with someone you know as it could be used to state they denied you needed healthcare if you're denied medication.

Just to remember to ween as if you were getting cut off as WCS you're cut off and withdrawals aren't too bad while BCS your tolerance is reduced and so when they give you a dose in jail you get high for a while.
 
Thanks for the input. I have cut cold turkey before from high doses after four years. It was nasty...paramount in my mind was the week and a half with literally no sleep and extreme restless leg/body conditions. Even tried the bar of soap trick, didn't know I was supposed to put it at my feet instead of by my head...still can't stand the smell of Irish spring. Why at the feet? I figured the scent or fragrance was what helped, not the soap goblins at your feet,lol. It took three months to get to feeling pretty normal. DEFINITELY do not want to experience that in the joint. I will get a letter from my Doc. just to be safe and will try the suboxone route. I'm not an addict, so quitting ain't difficult. The pain is however. MJ isn't legal in any form where I live, so as much as I would like to try that route, VA drug tests and it's not worth the hassle.
 
Nothing's worse than having to fight for your anal virginity while in withdraw.... When you come in to the jail I went to you got guys lined up literally like in a gay porn video jerking off and rubbing Vaseline on their dicks while they're staring you down like they're getting ready to run a train on you. And they like it when you bleed they say it's better lubrication.



Lol just kidding. But yea I would taper if you can cause withdraw in jail is just about one of the worst experiences next to rape and whatnot. I really couldn't imagine dealing with the scenario I described above... I'm sure it's happened to someone in some of those city county jails. I've detoxed 2 very heavy IV heroin habits in jail and even had a seizure 3 weeks in on the second time. (I think that was attributed to taking doxepin, a shitty sleep med they provided in the jail I went to, cause I only took it for two nights and had the seizure on the second night. Start working out as soon as you're able to, as that is one jail approved activity that is good and healthy for your body.
 
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My concern is that I may kill someone. I'm 6'4" 338lbs. I was a Marine for 10 years, most of that with 2d recon bn. That's how I got messed up. I have violent tendencies when in pain and in withdrawals, and that isn't a joke. If incarcerated I just want to do my time and get out, back to my boys again. Don't need extended time for any reason.
 
Any home temedie recipes or suggestions? I have found gabapentin helps a bit, but pretty much makes you a zombie on high doses. Immodium for the splats, Robitussin helps a bit. Anyone tried the poppyseed tea?
 
some home remedy tricks that have helped me are immodium at high doses believe it or not it can take away away alot of the symptoms of withdrawal, although it can stop you up. benzos if you can get them, robitussin, quick taper suboxone, kratom, some good ass heady nugs can do wonders, vitamin b, potassium, vitamin c, i remember when i was in rehab one time they gave us this handout of homeopathic remedies with all these vitamins and shit from a heath store to take to ease withdrawal pain you should look it up. goodluck keep us posted and start asap nothings worse than the pain of withdrawal with nothing sitting in county jail!! like you said you said so do it as painless as possible at home!!
 
Oh my...yes please for your own sake don't go to jail at your present state, the kick will be a nightmare. Taper down first then see if you can switch to buprenorphine, and use that to taper/rapid detox. It will be one of the best decisions of your life!
 
Start making calls to see if opiate replacement programs exist within the prison system you may be entering. I don't know what you have in the US. I've heard that over here if you are already on a program be it methadone or suboxone then if you are imprisioned you can continue dosing inside. It may be worth asking your pain management Dr what the score is with patients going to to jail.....you certainly won't be the first chronic pain sufferer to end up in the can.

I hope you can get through your time without extended time. There are a million ways that can and does happen and you've recognized you are particularly vulnerable to this situation cos of your opiate dependence, propensity to violence in stressful situations including Pain and WD........I guarantee you will find many other reasons to smash some heads in jail, the places are jam packed with clowns all looking for a shot at the title. Good luck and take care Bob.
 
I've never had to go to jail nor has any of my family or friends. One of my coworkers just recently got out. I work in roofing and he could only find work with my boss. Anyone who has worked or works in roofing know roofers are a tough breed, but this guy was something else.

My boss knew him from before he went to jail and said he was a really nice guy and like 160 lbs. Now he looks like 210 lbs and was at first really rude and threat inning. After getting to know me he told me why he was so rude to me at first. He said that if you are nice and pleasant, people in jail take it as a weakness and will either beat you up and/or rape you.

I don't know about you guys but if I knew I was going to prison, I would want to get in as strong as possible, lift weights etc, also wanna be strong mentally.

If you have to go through WD's in jail you are going to be in a weakened state physically and mentally and you will be a target regardless of your size/training as a marine. Do yourself a favour and get off your meds. With the state of the barbaric us prison system and the bad rep opioids get especially oxy, I wouldn't count on them to give you that in prison
 
If you're in the United States, you're options are severely limited when incarcerated, either in Jail or Prison. The medications and treatment that you will receive will vary heavily dependent upon the Dr. and the rules of the institution. I've heard that it's not commonplace for narcotics to be prescribed, with or without an existing prescription, but again, this varies on a case by case basis. For instance, I think a terminal cancer patient will likely get Opioids, whereas someone with a bad knee might end up toughing it out.

Really you need to plan on withdrawing before you get to prison if you do go. Being sick in the comfort of your own home is definitely preferrable to doing it in a cell. You will likely be provided an NSAID for the aches and pains and if you go for a couple of weeks straight without sleep, you might be prescribed some Quetiapine (Seroquel).

I would highly suggest figuring this out before you go. All joking aside, withdrawing from Opioids in jail was probably the worst, most nightmarish experience of my life.
 
If you're in the United States, you're options are severely limited when incarcerated, either in Jail or Prison. The medications and treatment that you will receive will vary heavily dependent upon the Dr. and the rules of the institution. I've heard that it's not commonplace for narcotics to be prescribed, with or without an existing prescription, but again, this varies on a case by case basis. For instance, I think a terminal cancer patient will likely get Opioids, whereas someone with a bad knee might end up toughing it out.

Really you need to plan on withdrawing before you get to prison if you do go. Being sick in the comfort of your own home is definitely preferrable to doing it in a cell. You will likely be provided an NSAID for the aches and pains and if you go for a couple of weeks straight without sleep, you might be prescribed some Quetiapine (Seroquel).

I would highly suggest figuring this out before you go. All joking aside, withdrawing from Opioids in jail was probably the worst, most nightmarish experience of my life.

Just for a point of reference, I believe there are 2-3 total institutions in the US that offer maintenance therapy.
 
TonyDanzaExtravaga said:
I would start tapering now, just to be safe.
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This. You were wise to consider this with a few weeks to prepare!

Since you use the Rx for pain and not recreation I would suggest talking to your MD about a non-narcotic pain medication.

What sort of pain/injury do you medicate for?
 
Having done time in both state prison and county jail, I can tell you this: opiates are occasionally given. Usually for serious stuff like a broken bone, etc

You would be wise to be off your meds before you go. They don't generally give opioids for stuff like back pain. They don't care much if you're in pain--you cease to be a human and become an inmate. Ibuprofen is the solution for everything in the pain field from a stubbed toe to headache to slipped discs.

There are opioid replacement programs in county jail. You have to be on a methadone program already (for instance). Then you will be dosed while in the county. If you get sent up state you are SOL. Unless you are pregnant. Then they will maintain you til you give birth. But these programs are for addicts not pain management.

I'm telling you, in Pennsylvania, pain management equals ibuprofen. Particularly up state. In the county it sort of depends what is on the formulary. One county would give Tylenol 3 fairly easily but not long term. They did give Tramadol. I had a cellie with back issues (MRI confirmed) get Tramadol and Vicodin.

You will not go in with opioid scripts and get them. If you're lucky they'll store them in property til you leave. But highly likelythey will disappear.

You will see medical upon intake. Some counties will continue a prescription if they can verify thru the pharmacy you are currently on it--usually that is for psych meds/benzos.

Best thing you can do is go in NOT dependent on any med, because the likelihood of continuing on the med is not in your favor
 
Monday...Monday is the day. I really appreciate all the great input and advice. I was thrown from the back if a ch46 helo. 70 feet. Broke my back, neck and both knees. My lumbar spine is fused. Whole spine is degenerative from injury and years of abuse. Arthritis, bone spurs, ruptured, torn discs, pinched nerve roots you name it. Knees both bone on bone, arthritis, both need replaced. Nothing left to fix. I suffer from cluster headaches and having a torn rotator repaired the 24th. (That isn't going to help if I'm detoxing). Thanks again, you guys are great. I will keep you posted.
 
As it was mentioned earlier...it doesn't matter how much of a badass you are, WDs make you weak...physically and mentally. I do have time to get through the worst parts if it goes south. I just know what I'm capable of even in a weakened state.
 
Having VA medical as my only option sucks. Getting an Appt. usually takes around three weeks. I will try to get a message to my Doc. and mention some of the things suggested. Is suboxin only a prescription med? Not sure if I'm skirting the edge by asking that. I'm just looking for information. I have only weaned myself off of long term high dosage daily use one time and did that on my own, cold turkey. I'm hoping to make things a tad more tolerable this time around...I know it will still suck a lot, but not nearly as bad as cold turkey.
 
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