Man gets 80 months in prison for shooting a guy who was stealing his weed

"And someone was stealing his stuff and may have been armed and dangerous for all he knew?"

Wow, how arse about face is that comment?

This thread has been the usual revelation on gun culture to a Brit. I thank you all.

"Stonehappymonday, by your logic victims of crime should just lie down and let the criminals run rampant, since the criminals life is worth more than their property any way."

No, thats not my logic and I'm glad I live under a different system that doesn't produce such retarded jumps in logic as you display here. Thanks anyway for your time and comments.
 
Hahahahaha. Cool bud. Imma got go back to my brain washing now but y'all have fun killing now each other over trivia.
 
SHM, I don't think every, or even a majority of thieves are armed, it still seems safer from a victims point of view to assume they are than assume they are not, some thieves are armed and it makes sense they would be, since their aim is to take another persons property against their will.

I am not really a pro gun person, I don't believe they should be outright banned but I am certainly not one who supports the crazy gun culture in the US. I come from Australia, a country that probably has a little bit more legal guns and a little bit less illegal guns than the UK. My opinion has nothing to do with the gun culture of where I live, I just believe in a victim of crimes right to defend their property.

When you are outnumbered by intruders who are taking your shit, if you have a gun handy it makes more sense to use this to defend yourself or your property than it does to not, to me any way. That said, obviously this guy was not exercising what I believe should be a legal right to shoot the thief though, or he would not currently be serving prison time for it, although I suspect like a number of other posters that the only reason he will see a jail cell is due to the fact he was protecting cannabis and not something the judge thought to be more wholesome/acceptable.
 
In the UK you have to leave your house and call the police if your being robbed or you'll be punished for protecting yourself and your property. You aren't even sovereign over your own property. If you make a negative statement on twitter you go to jail for 30 days. In dictatorships they only punish you for speaking out against the ruler or his party, unlike in the UK where this applies to everyone. It is a submissive, freedom-raping culture where you are taught to simply bend over and say thank you when being sodomized.
 
drug_mentor said:
SHM, I don't think every, or even a majority of thieves are armed, it still seems safer from a victims point of view to assume they are than assume they are not, some thieves are armed and it makes sense they would be, since their aim is to take another persons property against their will.
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It may be logical in the US to assume a thief is armed. Because guns are freely available, legally. But all that does is propagate violence amongst individuals and ends up in cases like this. Where a gun culture is so ingrained that you (not you personally) can't even see the logic of warning shots, let alone the necessity (for humanity) to put the individual (life) above property rights. In the UK it would be absurd to assume that someone taking someone else's cuttings would do so armed.

Consequently we have a lot lower total of gun deaths than the US. Including some 30000 less suicides. Carry on killing yourselves USA, it's nothing to the rest of us.

And as for Dank.

"In the UK you have to leave your house and call the police if your being robbed or you'll be punished for protecting yourself and your property."

No we don't, but don't let the truth get in the way of your argument.

"If you make a negative statement on twitter you go to jail for 30 days."

Oh, I see you don't let the truth get in the way of your argument. Carry on shooting.
 
You may not be forced to leave but it's implied because of the danger of the intruder so don't be a smartass.
 
_DankOpiAmp_ said:
In the UK you have to leave your house and call the police if your being robbed.
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Generally speaking, the best thing to do during a home invasion is to flee your house. I don't like the law you mentioned, but it just so happens to be the soundest strategy.
 
I don't know anyone who has fled their house while being burgled. I also don't know anybody who has either shot or been shot during a burglary.

Just. Saying.
 
Please show me this law you speak of that says you must leave your house if being burgled in the UK.

There is no such law.

Pretty much like there is no law that puts you in jail for thirty days for "saying something negative on twitter". We do have laws against promulgating racial hatred and homophobia. Is it those laws you so dislike Mr Dank?
 
Do you even know anyone whose house was burgled while they were inside and became aware of the fact before the burglars left? If not, then that is beyond irrelevant. It's also the principle of the matter.
 
http://london2012.blogs.nytimes.com...r-leads-to-arrest/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0
That is the article about the negative comment leading to an arrest. It wasn't racist or hateful, nice try though. It is called the Malicious Communication Act of 1988. Learn your country's laws before you spew such disgustingly ignorant comments.

You are expected to leave your house during a robbery because if you attempt to stop it you will be charged with assault etc. It doesn't have to specifically say to leave, that is just your only real option.
 
You're pretty big on insults, which are being kindly ignored by mods here, not so hot on facts. The guy you quoted was arrested, not charged. No 30 days in jail. And people were outraged by theolices actions. Which is what the "blog" you quoted says.

You do understand the difference between arrest, charge and imprisonment yes? You not being an ignorant pleb and all?

It's good to see you've backed down on the other law you made up though. Kudos for that.

You keep quoting barely used (and ignorantly used) laws to back up your argument though eh? Nothing like a straw man. Nothing at all.

Lummox.
 
You guys are giving me too much work with these insults. Why don't we just leave it at "smartass" and "lummox"? Otherwise I have to spend the next half hour cleaning the thread.
 
You put the onus on me to prove it was real when you said it didn't exist and when I show you an example you pretend it's rare and ask for a bunch more. You hold yourself to the standards of a 50 cent Haitian prostitute and me to that of a god in an argument. It like arguing with a creationist.
 
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