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^I understand....There was this one chick who introduced me to a dope dealer....I've told you guys about how the whole gram/half gram scene goes in New England...It's usually not the greatest dope, but it definitely gets you high and the price is right...but occasionally you find dealer who has access to some really good shit and sells it for the same prices that everyone else is selling their grams for...When these guys pop up, it's only a matter of time before they have 100 customers, and it becomes a pain in the ass to deal with them...The best quality dope still comes in stamp bags, but those aren't that easy to find...If you're new to the dope scene where I'm from, chances are you're gonna end up with some really mediocre shit...This is why you have people on BL bragging about the 2 grams a day they do...It's all they know...They came into the scene when it was all stepped on grams...

Anyway...This chick had a hook-up from this Dominican dude who barely spoke a word of English who had some abnormally pure dope! (Not that Dominican dope is a surefire sign of quality by any stretch) And he was selling it for the normal prices! She introduced me to him, and two weeks later...she burns him with a hundred dollars of counterfeit! Sure enough, he cuts her off..he wants to kill her, but he's making money hand over fucking fist with his dope! For the money, it was ridiculous..he was basically giving it away! I could of bagged it up in stamp bags the way he gave it to me and more than doubled my money...But anyway, this chick keeps calling me after she beat him for me to cop for her off him, cuz she couldn't go directly to him anymore...I did it, because whatever...He found out about it, he saw me driving a few streets over to meet her right after we copped, and he told me that if I ever grabbed dope for her again, he's gonna cut me off! So I made some excuse and blew the chick off...didn't matter, he was busted within 3-4 months of starting out! He just didn't know how to limit who he dealt with, everyone wanted his shit, and that was it! Sucked too, because when he went, the price I had to pay for dope that good after was a lot more!

Anyway, the moral of the story...As a dealer, you want as little exposure and drama as possible...If you see the warning signs that someone is gonna force your hand and rip you off, you dump them right then and there...There's plenty of people out there(girls are fucking notorious for this), who will wait until they get grabbed, and then give up whoever pissed them off over the past years...People who stopped dealing with them, pissed them off whatever...If you start beating up your ex-customers, you're exposing yourself big time! Dealers are ssupposed to kind of live by a code, and do their time...but most white dope fiends don't care for anyone but themselves...

It only takes one person to shut down a whole supply stream...This is why, it's hard to find good connects...if you're not worth the risk, why fuck with you?
 
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Mr.Scagnattie said:
It's not about the money. It's about the precedent it sets. Doesn't matter how much somebody beat you for. If you let it go, you're sending a message that people can rob you with impunity and that word spreads very quickly. You can't afford not to do something. Once word spreads you don't do shit to someone who steals from you, everyone in their mother is going to screw you.

So yeah, maybe 100 bucks isn't worth hurting somebody over by itself.. but when 5, 10, 20 people start doing it because they know you're not going to do anything about it, that shit adds up real quick and there goes your business.
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It was more than 100, btw, I think 250. Which should have raised some flags to the dealer, because this dude is the type that gets small order all the time. So when he came up with a large sum of cash about 2 days before his payday (which I am sure the dealer knows of) the red flags and warning sirens should've been flying.
 
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^I understand....There was this one chick who introduced me to a dope dealer....I've told you guys about how the whole gram/half gram scene goes in New England...It's usually not the greatest dope, but it definitely gets you high and the price is right...but occasionally you find dealer who has access to some really good shit and sells it for the same prices that everyone else is selling their grams for...When these guys pop up, it's only a matter of time before they have 100 customers, and it becomes a pain in the ass to deal with them...The best quality dope still comes in stamp bags, but those aren't that easy to find...If you're new to the dope scene where I'm from, chances are you're gonna end up with some really mediocre shit...This is why you have people on BL bragging about the 2 grams a day they do...It's all they know...They came into the scene when it was all stepped on grams...

Anyway...This chick had a hook-up from this Dominican dude who barely spoke a word of English who had some abnormally pure dope! (Not that Dominican dope is a surefire sign of quality by any stretch) And he was selling it for the normal prices! She introduced me to him, and two weeks later...she burns him with a hundred dollars of counterfeit! Sure enough, he cuts her off..he wants to kill her, but he's making money hand over fucking fist with his dope! For the money, it was ridiculous..he was basically giving it away! I could of bagged it up in stamp bags the way he gave it to me and more than doubled my money...But anyway, this chick keeps calling me after she beat him for me to cop for her off him, cuz she couldn't go directly to him anymore...I did it, because whatever...He found out about it, he saw me driving a few streets over to meet her right after we copped, and he told me that if I ever grabbed dope for her again, he's gonna cut me off! So I made some excuse and blew the chick off...didn't matter, he was busted within 3-4 months of starting out! He just didn't know how to limit who he dealt with, everyone wanted his shit, and that was it! Sucked too, because when he went, the price I had to pay for dope that good after was a lot more!

Anyway, the moral of the story...As a dealer, you want as little exposure and drama as possible...If you see the warning signs that someone is gonna force your hand and rip you off, you dump them right then and there...There's plenty of people out there(girls are fucking notorious for this), who will wait until they get grabbed, and then give up whoever pissed them off over the past years...People who stopped dealing with them, pissed them off whatever...If you start beating up your ex-customers, you're exposing yourself big time! Dealers are ssupposed to kind of live by a code, and do their time...but most white dope fiends don't care for anyone but themselves...

It only takes one person to shut down a whole supply stream...This is why, it's hard to find good connects...if you're not worth the risk, why fuck with you?
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First off, no one knows anyone who brags about doing 2 G a day on here, you have everyone COMPLETELY confused.......(especially not for MA)

On a serious note, I was kind of concerned about the same thing when helping this dude who beat the guy. I initially did it because his girl did me a favor. But after that he kept bugging me so I just told my guy what he was doing and if it was all right, rather than have him find out down the road and being pissed. I do not think he would have cut me off, but I see no benefit to making him angry because it won't make my deals from him better. He didn't care and actually offered me a better deal to middle man for the scumbag, more than I could've juiced him for on the bags.

I have a story that kind of pertains to how girls drop names when they get pinched with no second thought... well its kinda along those lines. Just recently I saw this nonsense at my job. And this is just plain stupidity at its best right here. Some crazy bitch gets into an argument with her bf, which apparently culminated when he refused to smoke a blunt with her. So he leaves to smoke the blunt and she calls him going crazy and saying she is going to cut herself, which she does with a shard of glass. And this laceration was no joke, like close to an an inch deep and 4 inches wide along the inside of her upper forearm, lucky she didn't hit an artery. So we show up with police, fire dept and stuff, pretty SOP for a cutter. Her bf and his sister are there, too. She is bleeding everywhere and still being a raging c***. So police grab her to go with us(thinks she is being arrested, but is just going to hospital, too stupid/crazy to realize), and then she starts yelling to the police about how her bf sells dope and cocaine and weed. Starts to tell the police that there is a scale in the apartment with coke residue on it...oh btw, she mentioned earlier, when we had just arrived, it was her apartment. The whole time she just keeps saying all this stuff. Even at the hospital second she walks in there she starts yelling about how her bf sells drugs. I just looked at her and was like "you are in a hospital, no one here gives a shit".
 
^Relax man, none of that was directed at you....There are a few people on here who are always talking about how many grams they did, and doing "gram shots" etc. And a gram is a lot of dope...the only reason a lot of people are doing that much dope in New England is because it's stepped on...The dope they're stepping on is good lot of the time, and it's cheap...but they're just beefing up the weight with cut, because for whatever reason, people are impressed by quantity...I was doing 3+ grams a day at times, which would have been absolutely unheard of 10 years ago...A gram of good dope used to cost over twice as much as what people sell it for now...and it was hard to even get that way..
 
I know I was being sarcastic, sorry I can't change the tone of my written words, but I tried to make it apparent. I fully admit the dope I get is most like walked all over. Of course its asinine to boast about a heroin habit based on how much you were doing, considering the incredibly large variance in potency from batch to batch, even when dealing with just one city.
 
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With the money though, it is very possible to develop a huge habit of actual really good dope. You'd be surprised just how much the body can handle if you have the means to keep buying more dope as your tolerance goes up. The times where I've had tons of money, my habits got outrageous, and I always got great dope. If you have the green, and use everyday, there is almost no limits to high your tolerance can go.

Sucks though because once that money runs out, all the sudden you're stuck with a $400 a day habit and no longer can pay for it, so you're screwed. Or when you finally have to detox... you're in for the most brutal kick of your life. The withdrawals from massive habits like that are fucking debilitating. Makes kicking a normal habit a breeze after you go through that shit. Ha
 
very cool. a new england post and I just happen to be from new englad. I am about 15-20 minutes outside of Boston in a grum city called Lynn. its perfect for the name of this post being the ma heroin lol.

i posted in the other dope thread which is how i originally found this board. cool to be in this section. i just read a few pages back and saw some talk about my city. are we really that looked down upon? lol. dope aint too bad around these parts. you have your boys who delivery a rock and others who are powder. its like how is mentioned here, all in a 4 or half gram or gram bagging. then you have your 30 4's for <snip> and your regular grams or half grams. all depends on who you know. i know many people around here playing the game so its good to know. i always use my top 2 based on how good it is. been using for a long time tho so i do think my tolerance grew and i had good money from a legal thing at one point so i let it sky rocket only to be left a sticky problem with dope and xanax. had a lot of seizures once my script ended up disappearing and my money disappeared and my dope habit cost way more than I knew what to do with.

oh well... shit happens... right? i would like to say i smartened up but I still use. I did drop any drug use aside from dope and weed. no more benzos, or speedballs, or your good prescription combinations, even if it involves subs. I had a script but ending up not wanting it as much and just falling off. pissed dirty alot. didnt want to take the train to see the dr. I was a moron there.
 
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glad to see another fellow Lynn member. love the 4 30s deal, but can't say much more than that. I don't think there's too much hate towards us around this site anyway. Im really comfortable around here, but I associate too much about the city with dope though.

sin city
 
BlueHues said:
^Relax man, none of that was directed at you....There are a few people on here who are always talking about how many grams they did, and doing "gram shots" etc. And a gram is a lot of dope...the only reason a lot of people are doing that much dope in New England is because it's stepped on...The dope they're stepping on is good lot of the time, and it's cheap...but they're just beefing up the weight with cut, because for whatever reason, people are impressed by quantity...I was doing 3+ grams a day at times, which would have been absolutely unheard of 10 years ago...A gram of good dope used to cost over twice as much as what people sell it for now...and it was hard to even get that way..
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idk if it's just me or the part of the city I'm in but it's infinitely easier to get stamps than grams around here...really don't cold cop anyways, got my choice dealer and they haven't disappointed me yet in the 7 or so years I've been with them...
 
lol, glad to see Lynn steps up and holds drug message boards down. realized I typed that wrong cuz I am pretty good right now as I type but mean 3 4's. or I can just saw 3 40's for 100 rather than just typing shit out.

I used to live in Atlanta and dope scene there is completely different. Boston has it own ways when it comes to talk. no bundles or bags around here really. always offering grams, half grams or in 40 bags and 3 for <snip>. best dope I got was in New York. is there a New York post? that was years ago. Atlanta dope was competitive with Boston but the scene was night and say different. I know scenes are always different, even the Lawrence, Revere and South Boston scene are different than Lynn. in Boston we do it much different for some reason. any idea why that is? I dont mind it but I am used to it by now.
 
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like you said man it's really all who you know, but the eastern mass area does seem to differ a lot from the rest of the east coast as far as packaging and prices go.

according to some posts I've read on here we used to have stamp bags but now you have to go west to Holyoke or south down to fall river/RI to get them it seems. I've gotten dope as far west as worcester and it wasn't stamps.
 
we had stamps around here in 99/2000. same bags always came out of lynn. its over the last 5-7 years packing change around here. kinda weird but whatever. as always, its based on who you know and how well you know your game. some people still have fire and others have garbage. one piece of advice for those in MA who dont know scene or the game well, always shoot sample sizes if your picking up from someone knew. I know my people by now but because they are not stamps, you dont know what youre getting. I've seen people OD shooting a .4 and I've seen people load straight grams in their shot and walk away w/o a nod. from good to complete shit based on who you know and where youre grabbing.

when it Boston always aim low unless you know your man or picking up from one of your boys guys. I even OD'd myself picking up in Somerville and grabbing killer dope but shooting as if I wanted to play the wiseass and assuming I had a killer habit. shit was fire that day cuz my habit is not the greatest and I only shot a .4 and OD'd. stupid to say but I wish I had that now. ha.
 
^I'm from the area. Lynn is not that bad. Its got its bad spots(and even those are by no means the epitome of urban plight), but I'd have no problem living in the majority of Lynn. Now Chelsea, that place is a dump. Its like all the bad parts of Lynn clumped together, but then 2x overpopulated.

Well anyway, welcome to the forum. Surprisingly this MA regional forum is a pretty busy thread here(more than the NY and CA ones, which I find odd), but its a social thread so people from all over are just talking about random stuff.
 
lol, chelsea is more swampy/ghetto than lynn for sure. i think lawrence is even worse but alot of people talk shit about lynn and i think its funny. any place you grow up you dont think is that bad. thats just how it is growing up.. even if that spot has less money and more problems than surrounding towns.

like I said, the dope is just diff around here. and people new to boston need to chill when first attempting to cop. the dope is always different unless you know your people. and with how its bagged you never know what youre getting. there are dudes where I know I could shooting 1-2 bundles in a blast. then there are dudes where if I shot 2 bags id be nodding. well, lets call them grams and half grams around here. so 2 grams is same as 4 bags (a $40 based on boston talk) depending on who you know.

i picked up around here and lived in other spots of country, so i know what its like. this has always been a good spot to cop cuz its definitely in demand over here and runs rampant w/ alot of ODs, problems, etc. but to any new people copping around here just be careful cuz its fire to garbage quick. i am sure we prob dont see this often cuz its hard to cop off the block around here. i always been a car guy or drop off.

maybe this is the good dope I picked up tonight talking, lol.
 
^haha funny you mention Chelsea. I have a lot of memories copping dope there during my first year of using in this one particular shitty neighborhood right before the Tobin bridge. I copped heavy there for like a year whenever I didn't wanna wait for my Lynn connects or I wanted a cheaper price. shit was never as good as Lynn though.

always seemed to be some Spanish block party going on too. I would just walk past them all happy with my dope in my pocket and either fix up in my car right there or hit up the porta dump next to Chelsea high and get down to business.

funny how some of my fond memories of recent years take place in settings most people cringe at the thought of.
 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wt3bTYuPcQ
 
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