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[LSD subthread] - Set & Setting Considerations

Amazing.

That's all I can use to describe my experience.

http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?i...d=109111134217870952022.000463e65870334b6ae35

That's the area we covered. We had botanical gardens, at one with nature, the hustle and bustle of city life in Queen St, getting lost in myself in Kill The Music, finding myself in the book store, having an amazing conversation with my best mates together sitting on some random staircase in the middle of nowhere about life in general, our problems, and our solutions... later on watching mediveval battles rage above in the clouds...

I'm rambling I know.
 
Question:

Is the anxiety during the first few hours of LSD caused by

a) the chemical reactions occurring because of the substance, or
b) going from a sober to tripping state of mind.

I ask because I'm wondering about re-dosing. I'm hesitant on taking larger doses because of the anxiety/load that I experience with 1-3 hit doses. If i were to take 1-2 hits, experience the anxiety, get over it at about +3, and then dose ~5 more hits, would i go through 5 hits worth of anxiety a few hours later?
 
^Well, presumably its from the LSD begginig to stimulate otherwise relatively relaxed receptors. Initially, serotonin would stop activity at some points of the brain, as the LSD molecule binds to the receptors for it- can cause some dysphoria and anxiety in some, in others it seems to trigger a very excited state. My girlfriend doesn't even react. Also, LSD itself binds to adrenal receptors; anxiety is built into LSD as an effect because of this. Adrenaline isn't psychoactive, but it can instigate the release of psychoatives like noradrenaline- which can induce anxiety (or euphoria for some people). Basically, if you are prone to expericing adrenal surges as anxiety and not excitement, LSD is not the best drug for you.

As to redosing- I have found that anxiety (body load at least) is increased with not much benefit in regards to tripping.

I do find it odd that people say LSD i devoid of peripheral effects- for me, at least, it exerts very strong bodily symptoms....
 
Haha I end up searching my bag/pockets/wallet far too much and usually forget what I was searching for in the first place. Wonder why it has this effect!?
 
Ha, i always do that too... Its probably because I usually have too much stuff in my pockets and it all feels the same while i'm tripping... I'll be trying to get chapstick & pull out a cell phone...
 
Wow, I thought I was just fucking insane... My first and only lsd trip I emptied my pockets and re assembled what was in my pockets a million times and then having de ja vu over and over feeling like time didnt exist and this infinite loop was all there was to reality.

Then all of a sudden it was like this wave of rationalization hit me, and I remembered- go with the flow, remember? like earlier! Waaaam, happy visuals, good feeling and just wonderrr again =D
 
Hey guys, quick question.

I am still yet to try LSD, or any psychedelic for that matter. There are 3 of us who want to use it, and I was curious as to whether a 'sober' person is necessary for the first time, or if all of us do it at once.

I know this question has probably been asked a million times over, but I haven't the faintest idea where to find it.

Cheers
 
I don't think a sitter is neccesary. Especially since you got 2 friends with ya, that should keep you comfortable, if they are people you trust.

Also I think tripping in general is more fun around people who are also tripping, when you stare at someone who isn't tripping while you are, its like you see them as this plain.. predictable robot. Just my opinion.
 
Was my LSD experience normal?

I've been haunted by this question for about 3 years now, when I took my first and last hits of acid when I was 16. I don't remember how much I did, 1 and 1/2 hits? 2 hits? maybe 3? But when I put that tiny piece of paper on my tongue and let it dissolve I was completely changed.

My personality changed and I saw everything in a 3rd person view and at about 3 seconds in the past. I was alot more benevolent, loud, cocky, douche baggy, and a huge jack ass according to my friends. I felt like that token ass hole in college movies times a million. I felt like I was dreaming and all my actions didn't affect me. I honestly think I turned retarded. I remember calling my friends giggling and telling them I got lost in my town, they literally had to discuss how they would take care of me I was so bad. And the effects lasted 3 times as long as my friends, granted I took a whole hit and a half more than them. The main effects lasted about 9 hours and I did not sleep until about 4 am. When I came home I could barely speak, I had that crackly voice like I was about to bust out crying or deathly afraid. My mom obviously noticed and I lied and told her I got into a fat fight. It was bad.

The only positive experience I came across the visual and auditory stimulation. Music, even on quiet it sounded like I was in a concert and I could see the vibrations. Riding the train from the city was amazing. At each stop I would close my eyes and open them thinking an hour rolled by when it was only a few seconds. The sounds of the train sounded like ghosts and the reflection on the metal poles just added to the experience. And Tetris on my phone was amazing.

So yeah, was this normal? One of my friends who was quite experienced in all things drugs said the hit was strong as hell. But reading posts it seems I didn't even do all that much. And ever since I can't remember my personality well before that trip. Like I can't remember exactly how I was pre-16 years old and my memories of everything before then are very faint. I still question whether I'm the same person, it feels like some stranger identity thefted my body and just studied up on my history before assuming my life. It's affected me pretty negatively but that feeling is fading away more every year.
 
Everyone gets affected by it differently. I can't tell all that much about how the actual trip was from your information but I'm sure all of that could happen on a strong dose of acid.

It can potentially affect your personality any way and intensify you into just about any archetype. I've felt on top of the world before and can understand the whole douchbag thing which probably made you energetic and talkative.
 
Thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat's acid.

There is no normal LSD experience and everyone's experience differs.

But i'd say you tripped hard and you reacted "unfavorable."

But I don't think enlightenment like this is bad. Do you?

Just to throw in there, i've had problems talking on the come downs of trips. I have also tripped for over 12 hours, so the 9 hours is just about right.
 
Sounds to me like you got your ego wrecked. Its probably not a bad thing, entirely. Acid isn't a party drug in large doses, and my guess is that your dose exceeded the 5-600ug "fun" barrier. A normal blotter hit is in the neighborhood of 200ugs, and 'strong' hits generally can exceed 500ugs.
For the average guy, after about 600ugs, the acid experience changes from a giggly, silly, "whoa that looks cool" experience to a much more introspective experience. Its affects the way your thoughts begin, not just how they come out, That's part of the ego-crushing, to some extent IMO.
I can take a good dose of fungus and get the ego-crushing experience. Its good to get knocked down a notch, and/or re-centered once in a while.
 
Set and Setting plays an important role always in a psychedelic trip. If you are paranoid or worried about something normally, or going into the trip, they will likely become apparent during the trip and can be more profound.

For example, I was with a group of people and didn't want to be annoying, I ended up taking a good amount of shrooms and I felt like I was really annoying to everyone around me and I would act obnoxious and say weird things. After the trip I asked everyone if I was being annoying and stuff and they said no I was pretty fine for tripping hard.

Most of it is in your head, and your mindset plays a very important role on how the trip will react. At least in my experience that is...
 
It's a strong substance, enough said. Everyone reacts diffrently and most of the time as Coleman said your feelings are just exaggerated. From everyone else's perspective you could have just seemed tipsy. I couldn't imagine taking acid in a "party" or "kegger"situation anyway but thats just my personal prefrence. Hopefully no LSD or hallucinogen experience is normal though, that's the point right? :)
 
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It's normal.

Like others have said, it sounds like you experienced ego death possibly.. and it can most definitely change your personality as it alters your perception of reality quite a bit ;)

In my personal experience, i would say its altered my personality permanently.. i cant even remember who i was before i started dosing.. countless ego deaths, I've experienced times where for weeks there wasn't anything about myself which defined 'me' as a person.. essentially an identity crisis, but this was from heavy dosing weekly for months. The benefit was that i didn't like who i was before LSD so it's had a massive improvement of my quality of life.
 
you may have experienced ego death , which can mean a total change in your personality !

I have experienced this at very high doeses (like 7 hits) , and one hit or one and a half hits shouldnt have done that

but everyone reacts differently to LSD
 
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