LSD saved my life

[Curious Quetzal]

The psychedelic experience did not adjust my personality. It gave me the eyes to see myself clearly.
After the experience faded, I felt like I had lost some of that vision. And whatever remained I tried to ignore.
Afterall, who has the time to change their deepest shortcomings?
I wanted to become a blank slate and start over. Even if you have to the time to do so, will your friends and family understand what is happening?
Ego-readjustment takes time and is a frustrating endevour.
My grand visions of a complete self were fleeting yet true.
Everyday I seek to be a greater person but a devil whispers in my other ear : "look at you, a flake, a fraud. Why must you confuse people like this?"
Ah the struggle.

By the way endlesseulogy, glad to hear your life has changed for the better following the experiences.

Peace

 

[inotocracy]

Damn thats crazy, good stuff!

 

[thoughtsUnThought]

I can agree that adivising people with 'genuine problems' to solve their problems through the use of psychedelics is irresponsible. HOWEVER (i feel), teaching someone the concepts and application of shamanism, daoism, buddhism (meditation, meta-programming), psychology (neurology, psychopharmacology, therapeutic techniques-freud, rogers...) and philosophy. THEN (once they truly grasp the material accordingly) giving them the advice to solve their problems through the use of psychedelics is totally legit...right?

Its foolish to assume that any one thing (psychedelic, pharmaceutical, whatever) has one corresponding after-effect, considering the variance between all of our neural wiring, neurotransmitter levels, metablism etc. Telling someone that doing (x) will induce (y) will only support the potential of such for influencable/gullable persons (placebo,suggestability, etc...) For those with rebellious tendancies, telling them that You Know that if They Do (x), that They Will Experience (y) will serve only to defluence their potential to obtain (y).

Suggestions are much more potent anyhow, not to mention more ethical.

I think we can all agree that the world would be a better place if we all had "CONSIDER PSYCHEDELICS" tattooed on our foreheads.

 

[Licence to Pill]

this is such a heartwarming thread, i've decided to blow off the cobwebs on my old account and write something of my experiences with LSD

i've had a fantastic upbringing (family wise), and a relatively great life thus far.
to many people (including myself until recently), being happy with our lives gives little reason to be critical of ourselves; if everything's going well, you must be doing something right?

recently, and after my last two experiences with LSD, i've started getting very introspective during and after the trip, and have put a lot of energy into mind exploration for the sake of character building.
it's given me the ability to dissociate myself from the personality i cling to so tightly in my everyday existance, to step back and analyse my reasons for being the person i am, and for the things i do.
and you know what? i've found a lot that i'd like to change.
character building.
every time i do it now, i expect to be able to see something about myself which i might not normally consider under normal circumstances. and i know i'll have the insight to fix it.

 

[Psychedelics_r_best]

yeah, so, uh, pretty much psychedelics just are the best.

 

[egor]

Psychedelics are not a silver bullet for personal issues, they give you the insight to know how to better yourself in a construcive manor. You have to take the insight with a grain of salt, and consider the trip ponderings for a while sober, then decide how to act on them

 

[Curious Quetzal]

Psychedelics are not a silver bullet for personal issues

They are the magic bullet for personal issues.



IMHO

 

[Zagenth]

The problem with LSD is that it is so individual oriented. Some people do well with it, some do horrible with it. Thats the nature of psychedelics. I could eat numerous hits of it and be fine, some people could eat one hit and lose their sanity. Its not a this is so for this person which makes it so for this person kind of chemical. You have gotta learn the individual aspects of it to make it useful imo.

 

[lysergicanimal]

Hi to all you good people who have had the privilege to experience one of the most wonderful molecules on planet earth. Since you are discussing, the great virtues of vitamin “A” have any of you read Stan Grofs new book titled “When the Impossible Happens”? I highly recommend this book to you avid psychedelic people. So I must reiterate to all of you who can enjoy Vitamin “A” from time to time. I have only experienced it a few times in my life, back in the early eighties, & I still can remember my experiences in how it had such a profound beautiful effect upon my life. In where it had opened so many doors as time stood still, and showed myself just how precious life is. I have tried looking for it from time to time over the last fifteen years, with never any success. One thing I can say is our governments have done their job in keeping it from those who seek to expand your consciousness. I feel that we live in such a hypocritical society, Where they allow young people to get hooked on tabacco products & end up destroying their lives, just to feed the rich. & They say we live in a free society, but yet they send people of to fight wars so the rich can get richer. But forget about us having freedom of consciousness, you can numb your brain with alcohol, but you can’t enlighten yourself. War should be outlawed & psychedelics legalized.

 

[theWorldWithin]

^^^Another reason I dislike LSD. What you are saying is absolutely correct but do you really think legal LSD would result in people finding spirituality? It's a real fucked up situation but sadly that is our nature, do not let your expereiences on psychedlics convince you otherwise. I wish that the ideas we take away from MDMA and tryps/phens was the way things are, but sadly humans are engineered to exploit one another and everything in out environment.

I can agree that adivising people with 'genuine problems' to solve their problems through the use of psychedelics is irresponsible. HOWEVER (i feel), teaching someone the concepts and application of shamanism, daoism, buddhism (meditation, meta-programming), psychology (neurology, psychopharmacology, therapeutic techniques-freud, rogers...) and philosophy. THEN (once they truly grasp the material accordingly) giving them the advice to solve their problems through the use of psychedelics is totally legit...right?

Again I agree that education would solve alot of problems but you have to consider feasability. I can not convince people to not smoke moldy weed let alone study subjects like pharmacology and spirituality.

It seems that compulsive drug taking is becoming a new age religion in the United States, with psychedelics in particular. Consequently consummerism has removed all the spiritual elements from this religion and we are left with comsumerist druggies who think they are challenging the status quo, when in fact they are supporting it through an illegal economy of instant gratification.

Take acid if you want but I think shulgin said it best. A fraction of a gram of some non descript white powder cannot make you do anything, it only reveals aspects of yourself that you were previously unaware of. For some people psychs are the catylist to change but its nothing you couldnt have done without them.

 

[lysergicanimal]

A new more tolerent society

Hi to the WorldWithin I have to disagree with some of your statement, as to why you dislike lsd, You said to quote you "it seems that compulsive drug taking is becoming a new age religion& consummerisum has removed the spiritual aspect of this new religion". First I have to agree that consummerisum has become one of societys largest problems, (& I will not argue with you about compulsive drug intake, since you said the word drug this could be a meth or a coke addict), with materialism replacing most of our values, (get rich or die trying)or dog eat dog, essential the basic of our rat race, All it is acomplishing is to get the richer richer & to excelerate our destruction of our enviornment. So how bad can lsd be,? even if you say it is instant gratification in a pill or blotter, maybe it saves many years of meditation to become enlightened by the same processes as one being a monk for twenty years. Lsd cannot be so bad since it allows each experimenter of sound Mind to become aware within his or her enviornment, to realize what really is important in life & what values to really to strive for to co-exist in nature, and what values are really important in society.(remember the beattles "All you need is Love") It lets one recognize that consumerisum and materialism is the fake card that the whole house of cards is built upon! As for a new religion first my own personal thought is I don't agree with organized religion, why should someone who is living the same life as myself tell me what to expect after I die, he is only human how does he know!, so it should be freedom to believe what you want to believe, besides orginized religion is one of the roots of evil on our world today(has also caused many genocides) with muslims & christians getting closer & closer to all out war perprated by those who control our consumeristic society that's right!! the ones who are turning us all into the rats in the rat race. I say let thier be new religion based on our own believes that we have aquired through psychedlics, Really how much worse could it be than the staus -Quo? Lsd should to begin with again,should be legalized in a controlled sort of way, simialar to what Albert Hoffman maintains in where we could have meditation centers to monitor trips, I know this isn't the best, but it would help it from getting out of control & at least people would then realize that we do have to change society, to get away from this subliminul message by big brother that materilistic wealth is the only value to strive for in our lives,if we are going to survive as a species! this consumeristic religion has to go! excuse my spelling & I hope you will respond to this. Chow

^^^Another reason I dislike LSD. What you are saying is absolutely correct but do you really think legal LSD would result in people finding spirituality? It's a real fucked up situation but sadly that is our nature, do not let your expereiences on psychedlics convince you otherwise. I wish that the ideas we take away from MDMA and tryps/phens was the way things are, but sadly humans are engineered to exploit one another and everything in out environment.




Again I agree that education would solve alot of problems but you have to consider feasability. I can not convince people to not smoke moldy weed let alone study subjects like pharmacology and spirituality.

It seems that compulsive drug taking is becoming a new age religion in the United States, with psychedelics in particular. Consequently consummerism has removed all the spiritual elements from this religion and we are left with comsumerist druggies who think they are challenging the status quo, when in fact they are supporting it through an illegal economy of instant gratification.

Take acid if you want but I think shulgin said it best. A fraction of a gram of some non descript white powder cannot make you do anything, it only reveals aspects of yourself that you were previously unaware of. For some people psychs are the catylist to change but its nothing you couldnt have done without them.

 

[egor]

That is a nice dream, but in all reality, never gonna happen. Sorry.

 

[lysergicanimal]

never say never

Egor don't be so pessimistic "Never Say Never" as we get older & Generation X comes to power A more Liberalistic view will come to light, & all the psychedelic people out thier will favor a legelization of some sort towards psychedelics esspecially lsd of course this will only happen after the revolution of kicking the warmongers & mind controllers out of power, or should I say the evolution and freedom of human consciousness as our savor as a spesies upon this planet.

 

[theWorldWithin]

Lysergicanimal, If acid has catylized positive change for you personally then I am very happy but many lives are broken by this compound. Considering the possible side effects, this is not a medically safe compound for human beings to consume and I honestly believe it would be immoral to legalize it. I believe that in the distant future controlled consumption may possibly be feasible but not in out lifetimes.

Even if the social situation exited for this controled consumption it still does not negate the many side effects of powerfull tryptamines. Some may view breathing walls as getting deeper in the quest, truth is, its an inefficient visual sub-system. In laymans terms, you are fried. This is just one minor side effect, never mind triggering latent mental disorders, causing depersonalization, derealization, etc...

Also to believe that eating LSD has caused anyone to ever be enlightened is just foolish. You cannot buy enlightenment for 5 dollars a hit! It may help to catylize awareness but by no means are hallucinogens an instant ticked to satori.

I do not personally oppose the use of hallucinogens, but I feel its neccesary to play devils advocate here in the name of harm reduction. There is a very dark side to these compounds and you are rolling the dice everytime you dose. Also most educated people would agree that LSD is one of the worst offenders for unwanted after effects. If there is any doubt just check out the HPPD online boards for a summary of what triggered peoples disorders.

 

[Xorkoth]

Considering the possible side effects, this is not a medically safe compound for human beings to consume and I honestly believe it would be immoral to legalize it.

I don't agree with this... in my mind what is immoral is to deny people their fundamental right to do what they want with their bodies and minds. However, it would be immoral to force everyone to dose, because not everyone is going to respond well to LSD.

I believe that in the distant future controlled consumption may possibly be feasible but not in out lifetimes.

This is perhaps true, but personally I like to keep a positive outlook. However, I'm not naieve, either, so I certainly don't expect it.

 

[psybeebee]

I haven't read the other replies yet, so forgive me if I am off topic by now, but I had to reply straight away..

This is fantastic and I'm so happy for you! I know exactly how you feel. I have been previously diagnosed with severe depression which was later recognised as manic depression, moderate anxiety and post traumatic anxiety. Ontop of all this, I also had developed a pretty nasty downward spiral of a meth addiction. During my very first psilocybe experience I used my altered perception of the world surrounding me to pretty much completely eliminate any symptom of my anxiety and my depression lifted for some time. After several experiences I noticed my depression lifted to what I would expect a normal person would experience (I was sad sometimes, but rarely, I felt back to my normal self again). I have not yet tried LSD as I am currently waiting for the right situation in which I am comfortable taking it and can make the most of my experience.

The best thing that ever happened was when I tried a very small amount of DMT for the very first time, whilst trying to quit meth. It was barely enough to make me trip but after that one night I can honestly and very proudly say that I have not touched meth again. I have no idea how it helped me except that it allowed me to think with an emotionally clear mind about my life and what I was doing with it. I also had noticed a very sudden diminish in my withdrawl symptoms as of the very next day. It has been almost 5 months now since I've abused drugs and I have psychedelics to thank for giving me a little push in the right direction and allowing me to make some big positive changes in my life.

I am happy to see that others are able to take such positive life experiences from psychedelics and I hope that one day we (western society) can be controlled enough to encorporate psychedelics and spirituality into the psychological growing and healing process.


Edit: After reading some of the replies I would like to add that, IMHO, if taken in moderation and under safe and comfortable circumstance, with the right attitude, psychedelics will do for you what you expect and wish for them to do. I believe they can make or break you, and if you beleive, even in the slightest way, that they can break you well they most certainly can. I think the mind is more powerful than we realise and that psychedelics can be used correctly to give us a very helpful point of view and even bad trips can teach us valuable lessons.

 

[lysergicanimal]

To the WorldWithin

Hi to the worldwithin Since I do not know you on a first name basis how bout I call you Sharky! Since you seem to be quite sharp at playing the devils advocate, though for the overall picture at this point I do not think your argument stands up very well. If you like you can call me Deano. I will not try to make this to long, but I have a lot of information & life experience I would like to convey to you, with the least words as possible ( the best would be is for you to P.M. me with your e-mail address so we can discuss this properly). First off let me say for the main argument towards controlled legalization of LSD is & speaking with experience on this. A user or consumer is rolling the dice more so than if it was legal because on the street who knows what one is actually purchasing. It sure is not pharmaceutical grade lsd, and also with unknow strength. I myself am not a heavy drug user of any sorts. I do value my health. All I ever do usually is just smoke a little weed & have a few beers, eat a few mushrooms now & again, pretty tame overall. I have only had a few experiances with lsd & these were back in the early eighties. I have in vain for over the last, past fifteen years been trying to find some decent acid, with no such luck. A safe supply should be available for those people who wish to keep a balanced perspective on their attitude towards life & humanity upon our precious planet. The closest I have come to any real acid this past year, was some watered down psychedelic that was not even close to the lsd I had back in the eighties. We finally figured out that this was probably d.o.b. Which was actually crap compared to what lsd can be. .To further strengthen my argument I have never heard of this H.P.P.D. syndrome before you mentioned it, & I have read a lot on the subject. When pure pharmaceutical lsd was avail. Back in the fifties and sixties, This condition was unheard of which points to the crap that is being passed off as LSD these days. Further more I have never heard of anyone developing permanent psychosis from the ingestion of lsd. I have heard a lot about bad trips & people ending up on the psych ward, but never permanently. As far as I know lsd is the least toxic drug known to man! I have never heard of anyone dying from an overdose. Fifty to sixty micrograms of lsd that are ingested, after an hour cannot be detected in the body. You want proof just look at Albert he’s a Happy Proud One Hundred & One Years Old! I don’t know about you but I want on that program! But really just look at the topic of this thread, I’m sure most informed people would say that LSD’s benefits more than outweight it’s negative side effects. In fact I really can’t say it has any side effects, can it truly be classified as a drug? (I know you are going to jump on this) DR. Stanislav Grof who has had more than fifty years experience treating people with LSD says that LSD is a non-specific amplification of the psyche. Where set & setting are very important, and according to him has helped heal many people over the years where mainstream psychology has given up on many patients. Dr Abram Hoffer & Dr Humphery Osmond cured over five thousand clinically insane alcoholics. They had a much higher success rate than A.A’s have ever enjoyed. To make a long story short, L.S.D. was not handled properly & most of it’s bad name did not come from the people experimenting with it from the streets but from the Draconian Warmongering Government that outlawed it, that’s right government project MK-Ultra. Strapping poor mentally handi-capped people down in their beds in mental homes and giving them massive doses of LSD that’s right! plus a lot of other dirty experiment’s until they grew tried of LSD & decided to make it illegal . That’s’ your government the ones that send you sons & daughters off to invade other countries just so the rich can become richer. I don’t see LSD blowing off people’s limbs, burning people alive byond recognition or destroying poor people’s families. War should be outlawed & LSD legal! Furthermore if acid has to be illegal then so should tabocco! come let’s at least make it fair. Anyhow Sharky as for the five dollar a hit enlightenment. Don’t knock it. Haven’t you ever heard of spontaneous spiritual enlightenment? It’s for free! courteous to whatever spirituality you believe in, just let your soul breath & not another brick in the wall. I’m sure you have experienced something close to this phenomena for instance I will describe what it can be about from my own personal experiences “They have given myself such a profound sense of wellbeing, at times, In where it has enhanced my life. I’m also sure this heightened awareness has contributed to my, mystical experiences that I have on occasion. I’m sure you know what I’m talking about, you know where you just get a feeling that Mother Nature or the creator metaphorically tap’s you on the shoulder & says to you! Hey step back & take a look. Look at creation, the pure wonder and amazement of it all, as the sun breaks through the clouds upon the beautiful landscape as you feel the pure spirit of Nature, fill your entire soul with the secrets of creation!” Similar as to what Albert Hoffman, always refers to as when he was a child. When he stopped in a meadow through a walk in the forest, & nature revealed herself to him as she really is, & he beheld the wisdom of creation for those few fleeting moments. Simialar to how he equates an LSD inherbration. So Please feel free to respond, I highly recommend that you read Albert Hoffman’s My Problem Child” especially chapter Eleven. For starters. Chow Deano

 

[melange]

^I am sorry, your heart is in the right place, but please read up some more, and check your facts.

 

[Immortal Teknique]

Psychedelics are a 2 sided sword, capable of doing much good in the right hands, but in the wrong hands, they are a recipe for disaster. Education is the KEY!!

Couldn't have said it better myself. The people who pop tabs of acid like candy are the fools who end up mentally unstable and then mount a personal vendetta saying "ACID IS EVIL IT ROTS YOUR BRAIN!" The dumb fucks should have taken the time to research the drug and realise it is so much more than just a fun "take it at every party" drug and it DOES have massive perceptual and psychological effects and this SHOULDN'T be taken lightly

 

[Zagenth]

[A man injected] 320 mg of LSD injected intravenously under the mistaken idea it was speed (this killed the user and appears to be the only instance of death by LSD overdose), the reference is: Journal of the Kentucky Medical Association 75: 172-173 (I have been unable to obtain a hardcopy of this

Do you have any idea how much 320mg of LSD is? I find it EXTREMELY HARD to believe that someone mistook that for speed. That amount of LSD would be extremely expensive. The ONLY way i can even conceive of that happening is if someone were in an environment where white powders were just laying around all over the place and you had to just take your pick and hope. Mistaking 320mg of LSD for speed is just something I cannot fathom.

Agreed... giving everyone LSD, as an example of a strong psychedelic, would probably be disastrous. But training psychiatrists and the like to use them properly in psychotherapy would be a very beneficial venture, if you ask me. I think they could do a lot of good.

The problem I have with that is the length of the LSD experience. Would someone want to spend 8 hours or so with their psychiatrist (or even 5 hours and run the comedown on their own)? I know I wouldn't if I were in that predicament. Then again, that's just me.

Anywho, just my 2 cents