LSD Info Request: What's going around - Part Trois

[face__]

They're called Pharaohs. Clean but fairly weak...I'd munch a few for a decent trip.

sorry to be repeat the same kind of question but i am a newbie and dont want to be dissapointed with my first trip. how many of these do you think i will need for a decent trip with visuals. i know there is a particular threshold for visuals but would anybody be able to enlighten me with for these tabs?

 

[Modulus]

If they are the same strength as the ones 2 or so years back, then i'd eat 3-4 to get anything near an "intense" trip.

They were clean but pissweak.

 

[face__]

:s goodie lol

 

[[eK]]

sorry to be repeat the same kind of question but i am a newbie and dont want to be dissapointed with my first trip. how many of these do you think i will need for a decent trip with visuals. i know there is a particular threshold for visuals but would anybody be able to enlighten me with for these tabs?

if its your first trip, i advise you start off with 1 - see how your feeling after an hour and a half then drop another if you can bear it. you should be sweet to consume 2, depending on the strength of the tab, in which you will discover off the first dose.

 

[acidicweed_69]

picked up tabs in the northern subrbs of sydney the other day.. tabs were right angled triangles, and were colourful-some were green and red, some just green and others yellow and blue-i got a few but they were alll seperated so im not sure of the design-any ideas?!

i took 2 and had a mad intense trip, however whenever my mind went 2 hyperspace i kept getting brought down by a dickhead at my mates house 1 got my mate tripped but 1/2 got 2 of my friends kinda there but the other two who took 1/2 reported nothing

 

[PsiloSubNaut]

Hey man, I'm getting some "rolling stones" tommorrow and trying this weekend, getting two and two people are tripping, both first timers. I notice you said start with a half if a noob.
My question is will this give decent visuals and acid headspace? The psychedelic/trippy drugs I have experience with are MDA in E's a couple times and k twice, DXM twice and mushrooms I have a fair degree of experience with (40 trips maybe) although I haven't consumed those in atleast 3 months so there shouldn't be cross tolerance. My question is do you think I could get away with taking a whole given my experience? Or are these that strong that a half will really give me a decent feel for what acid is all about?
I have had difficult moments on psychedelics but never a bad trip. I just really don't want to half ass my first trip especially since I've chased it to no avail for years and can't definately get it again after this.
Also at what point in a trip is it best to whip out the nangs? The place I usually get them is sold out but if I get on to them anywhere else I'd love to have a crack at them on acid!
Anyway I'm out, peace.

Sorry about the late reply, haven't been online for a couple of days...

I'll still give my two cents anyway

I'm quite sure you could handle a full tab. I had 2 noobs with me last weekend who both dosed a full tab.

One guy found it a bit overwhelming and stated he was in a full coloured laser pattern trip and couldn't comprehend how the rest of us managed to keep a conversation going.

The other guy said he just felt great, had nice visuals and cruized through the experiance.

In the interest of harm reduction i would recommend half to start with because you can always have more but you can't soak that LSD back out of your body once it's in there...

Nangs could be a bit bewildering on the come up but once you have plateaued they're good fun. If you've had them on shrooms then you should be used to it.

I think you'll find LSD smoother than shrooms but just remember it lasts a hell of a lot longer and alot of people have problems with the duration more than anything.

Plan your trip and stay with good people in a confortable environment.

Psilo

 

[jesusisawombat]

These are the 'Wizards' (getafix) I have mentioned in the last couple of days. I know they were floating around in May/June this year. Does anyone have some recent info on them. Sourced in the the Blacktown area yesterday. Gonna test them soon. I'll report back in a couple of days.

Just reporting back like I said I would.

Tabs still have a fair but of strength to them (might be a new batch). I would compare them to the strength of the Ganesha's from about 2 years ago. I had 1, and me and my friend had a nice trip that lasted from about 10pm till 5am (although still everything was immensely funny till 9am). Come up took about an hour. Tab wasn't heaps visual (compared to the multiple tabs which I'm used to), but lots of patterns were floating on top of walls and other surfaces. Looking at a cliff face it looked like there were statues carved into the rocks. So....visual in that respect, but things weren't really moving, the visuals which were there were just built onto what was physically there. Another visual that caught my eye was watching the ocean at 8am'ish. Staring at the sun reflecting off the water, it turned it a mass of strobe'ing lights, which then turned into star's dancing around the water and jumping around like fish and fairy's. But as soon as I stopped concentrating it stopped and went back to a bit of sun on the water. I think most the night I was probably just having too much fun (distracted) to get more visuals like this. With 2 of these I recon it would get pretty intense visually.
From about 20 mins after dosing everything was funny as all hell. I had a sore jaw all night from smiling and laughing They were really fun tabs.

Over all 1 provided a really nice trip, and one was enough for a 'trip'. Sometimes 1 is too low a dose to really get a 'trip' going, everything is just fun and interesting. But with these 1 was enough. I'm just assuming people know what I mean by that. If it doesn't make sense, don't worry.

Come down was nice. Nothing all to bad about it, although I expect with 2+ tabs it would get worse. That general kind of tiredness combined with your mind still thinking heaps. Watched Sunrise on 7 and some kids TV shows, still having an awesome time and managed to get a few hours sleep from about 10 till 12. Then went about my day, feeling a bit stupid as you would expect and went to bed that night at midnight.

All in all, good tabs. Definitely LSD. Will get more, they are worth my money.

 

[drug_mentor]

Ended up just dosing the whole tab, never had any problems whatsoever. You are all definately correct when you say theres alot less mind fuck than shrooms. And it is definately the cleanest drug I've ever taken.
Have to say in some respects was disappointing, like since it seems that what I had was a strong tab (matched your photo by the way PsiloSubNaut ) the visuals were quite a bit less intense than an average shroom trip I would take. I was also, for whatever reason, expecting a bit more of a 'cartoony' experience than shrooms but this wasn't really the case.
That said It was definately an awesome experience I hope to repeat soon and there were moments of the night that were just spectacular. Disappointingly, I never got a hold of nangs which I will have to make sure I've got for next time.

 

[jesusisawombat]

Have to say in some respects was disappointing, like since it seems that what I had was a strong tab (matched your photo by the way PsiloSubNaut ) the visuals were quite a bit less intense than an average shroom trip I would take.

Wait till your try 2+ tabs (Don't jump straight to 3). It will blow shrooms out of the water. Happy tripping

 

[PsiloSubNaut]

Ended up just dosing the whole tab, never had any problems whatsoever. You are all definately correct when you say theres alot less mind fuck than shrooms. And it is definately the cleanest drug I've ever taken.
Have to say in some respects was disappointing, like since it seems that what I had was a strong tab (matched your photo by the way PsiloSubNaut ) the visuals were quite a bit less intense than an average shroom trip I would take. I was also, for whatever reason, expecting a bit more of a 'cartoony' experience than shrooms but this wasn't really the case.
That said It was definately an awesome experience I hope to repeat soon and there were moments of the night that were just spectacular. Disappointingly, I never got a hold of nangs which I will have to make sure I've got for next time.

I didn't find the lips to be overly visual. 160ug is a fairly low dose for me. Most of my crew (we eat alot of acid) didn't get strong visuals untill dosing 2+ but the people who only trip every few months were quite impressed.

Just nice clean acid.

In my opinion tabs aren't strong untill they crack the 200ug mark but in Aus that doesn't happen very often!

Get used to being let down by LSD untill you find a solid reliable source.

Still the first single tab i have enjoyed (i'm lucky to feel the slightest thing off a single tab these days!) since the hoffs and when i dosed 2.5 friday night i had a great time!

 

[mindsurfer]

I didn't find the lips to be overly visual. 160ug is a fairly low dose for me. Most of my crew (we eat alot of acid) didn't get strong visuals untill dosing 2+ but the people who only trip every few months were quite impressed.

Just nice clean acid.

In my opinion tabs aren't strong untill they crack the 200ug mark but in Aus that doesn't happen very often!

Get used to being let down by LSD untill you find a solid reliable source.

Still the first single tab i have enjoyed (i'm lucky to feel the slightest thing off a single tab these days!) since the hoffs and when i dosed 2.5 friday night i had a great time!

I didn't find the lips to be overly visual. 160ug is a fairly low dose for me. Most of my crew (we eat alot of acid) didn't get strong visuals untill dosing 2+ but the people who only trip every few months were quite impressed.

Psilo, with all respect, I have to call you on this. 160ug might be a low dose for you, but it's a powerful and potentially terrifying dose for most people.

I find it very difficult to believe that you need 320ug+ to experience strong visuals, in fact the idea seems absurd to me. How exactly do you assay the dose in your tabs?

I took LSD at least a hundred times, and I doubt any blotter I took was more than 100ug, typically much less. The barrels in the 1970s were a different story - 300ug, and 2/3 of one of them was as much as I ever wanted to take - wild, unstoppable hallucinations on a massive scale. At the time, people used to scrape flakes off one barrel with a razor blade to dose. A half was considered a heroic dose.

As a wild guess I suspect that some of these tabs you talk about were originally laid at relatively high doses (reported truthfully to you) but degraded before you got your hands on them. I recall one occasion where tabs sourced near where they were laid turned out to be way stronger than the version consumed in the southern states. But who knows?

 

[Montay]

Anyone heard anything on purple microdots?

Im supposed to be getting some this week from a reliable source, will upload a picture when i obtain.

 

[mushi mushi 88]

Heard of some in the Brisbane area about 4 or 5 months ago they were meant to be just average so I didn't bother getting any... The tabs I was getting at the time were meant to be stronger and cheaper so I didn't even think twice.

What area are you from?

 

[Mr Blonde]

Psilo, with all respect, I have to call you on this. 160ug might be a low dose for you, but it's a powerful and potentially terrifying dose for most people.

According to Erowid 160ug is just 10ug above the upper end of the 'common' doses; I don't know what that means really as like most users I have no idea what the doses are I'm taking. I was getting sugar cubes a while back estimated at 100ug each, not sure if that's true. Two cubes would be very intense, would put me in a very crazy, confused yet wonderful state with lots of visuals for about 3 hours or so then start coming down for a while. No idea what the actual dose was though.

Maybe some of the more experienced acid users could enlighten us?

Also, Psilo did say he and his friends eat a lot of acid and the tolerance to psychedelics can be pretty heavy. I believe one of the PD moderators has or had a tolerance to RCs that also required pretty big dosing just to get some visuals going.

 

[nanobrain]

Psilo, with all respect, I have to call you on this. 160ug might be a low dose for you, but it's a powerful and potentially terrifying dose for most people.

I find it very difficult to believe that you need 320ug+ to experience strong visuals, in fact the idea seems absurd to me. How exactly do you assay the dose in your tabs?

I took LSD at least a hundred times, and I doubt any blotter I took was more than 100ug, typically much less. The barrels in the 1970s were a different story - 300ug, and 2/3 of one of them was as much as I ever wanted to take - wild, unstoppable hallucinations on a massive scale. At the time, people used to scrape flakes off one barrel with a razor blade to dose. A half was considered a heroic dose.

As a wild guess I suspect that some of these tabs you talk about were originally laid at relatively high doses (reported truthfully to you) but degraded before you got your hands on them. I recall one occasion where tabs sourced near where they were laid turned out to be way stronger than the version consumed in the southern states. But who knows?

um, for Psilo 2x160 (lips, fresh as, no degrade) is a low dose, i am surprised he gets visual distortions off less than a milligram - and ~300 per tab is not uncommon in eu like the recent Shivas and Stolaroffs (250). life is too short for bad or weak acid. and forces of light know this fact in these times of change.

 

[mindsurfer]

um, for Psilo 2x160 (lips, fresh as, no degrade) is a low dose, i am surprised he gets visual distortions off less than a milligram - and ~300 per tab is not uncommon in eu like the recent Shivas and Stolaroffs (250). life is too short for bad or weak acid. and forces of light know this fact in these times of change.

Fair enough, Nano, maybe you and Psilo bathe in the stuff. Erowid classifies 160-400ug as a "strong" dose.

I have no knowledge of the current LSD scene (other than what I read here), but historically blotter was typically less than 100ug, an average of 50ug has been suggested:

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_article1.shtml

That corresponds with my experience back in the 1980s, and with most of the current reports I read on this thread.

Bluelight is a harm reduction site, and I personally find it irresponsible for blotter to be laid at 300ug when people are accustomed to, say, 50ug. I've been surprised by occasional strong blotter back in the day and fortunately handled it OK, but I know people who were not so lucky. LSD is not a toy.

I won't speculate on how you seem to know the dosage of what's going around. OTOH, it's good to know that the purity is improving (if it is), as I'm firmly in the "purity matters" camp. I would go for purity over quantity any time.

Finally, if you are surprised that Psilo gets visuals off less than 1000ug, then maybe you should suggest to him that he cuts down a little. Really.

 

[PsiloSubNaut]

Fair enough, Nano, maybe you and Psilo bathe in the stuff. Erowid classifies 160-400ug as a "strong" dose.

I have no knowledge of the current LSD scene (other than what I read here), but historically blotter was typically less than 100ug, an average of 50ug has been suggested:

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_article1.shtml

That corresponds with my experience back in the 1980s, and with most of the current reports I read on this thread.

Bluelight is a harm reduction site, and I personally find it irresponsible for blotter to be laid at 300ug when people are accustomed to, say, 50ug. I've been surprised by occasional strong blotter back in the day and fortunately handled it OK, but I know people who were not so lucky. LSD is not a toy.

I won't speculate on how you seem to know the dosage of what's going around. OTOH, it's good to know that the purity is improving (if it is), as I'm firmly in the "purity matters" camp. I would go for purity over quantity any time.

Finally, if you are surprised that Psilo gets visuals off less than 1000ug, then maybe you should suggest to him that he cuts down a little. Really.

Firstly, i'd be asking the same questions if another BL'er was making the same statements as me but i can assure you i have a massive tolerance to LSD.

You think i enjoy having to take 2 to 3 times more than my friends who hit it just as hard as me to get high?

Erowid also states that 5-6 grams is the high end of the scale for P. Cubensis mushrooms which are weaker than the P. Subaeruginosa that i have to consume 5+ grams of for an enjoyable high that gives me visuals.

It all depends on what you consider tripping and what your mind can handle. I cant see or feel what others see when they trip so i can't even tell you if LSD does less for me than the next guy or i just dont enjoy it till i am dosing big.

Over the years i have met people with massive tolerances to certain chems and other people who can only handle small amounts of one thing and massive amounts of another no matter how regulary they use them.

I have used massive amounts of psychs from 4 HO MET to DMT most weekends for many years and easily hold down a highly trained well payed job so get back in your box mate. I'll cut down when i'm dead.

If you read my posts you will see i dose high but also push harm reduction when others ask about dosages etc.

Stop wasting thread space and put up some decent LSD info or don't post.

Psilo

 

[Modulus]

Psilo for mod.

 

[mindsurfer]

Firstly, i'd be asking the same questions if another BL'er was making the same statements as me but i can assure you i have a massive tolerance to LSD.

You think i enjoy having to take 2 to 3 times more than my friends who hit it just as hard as me to get high?

Erowid also states that 5-6 grams is the high end of the scale for P. Cubensis mushrooms which are weaker than the P. Subaeruginosa that i have to consume 5+ grams of for an enjoyable high that gives me visuals.

It all depends on what you consider tripping and what your mind can handle. I cant see or feel what others see when they trip so i can't even tell you if LSD does less for me than the next guy or i just dont enjoy it till i am dosing big.

Over the years i have met people with massive tolerances to certain chems and other people who can only handle small amounts of one thing and massive amounts of another no matter how regulary they use them.

I have used massive amounts of psychs from 4 HO MET to DMT most weekends for many years and easily hold down a highly trained well payed job so get back in your box mate. I'll cut down when i'm dead.

If you read my posts you will see i dose high but also push harm reduction when others ask about dosages etc.

Stop wasting thread space and put up some decent LSD info or don't post.

Psilo

Well, that's odd Psilo, because back in March you said:

Tried my microdots on sunday...
Fuck me! Soooo glad i was camping!
Extremely large dose of LSD and i don't think i'd have more than half next time.

In April you wrote:

I've seen the data before.

150 is mind blowing, i had silver moons in the US that were tested to be 200-300ug but they had been in the freezer for 3 years so i suspect they would have degraded and half of one of them was like the anniversary hoff's i had years ago in aus, absolutely awesome!

I suspect most tabs in aus would be 30-40 average but i really don't know so i don't even try to guess.


So which version of your bullshit are we expected to believe? 320ug for visuals, my arse.

 

[-O-]

Psychedelic doses are where it is at.
Plain and simple you have to go down the rabbit hole.
And that means taking 300mcg+

I took 12 tabs of average acid once and apart from lasting for a long time 18-20hours, it was absolutely amazing and for the most part a smooth ride. And there's people who have taken more than that.

Usually i like to take between 250 and 500mcg (again only estimates but i tend to take 2-4 tabs usually, and only a few times have I had really weak stuff). I've had trips on 2 tabs that are just as intense as trips on 4. I find if you can get past that threshold into a psychedelic state then it all starts to get pretty relative.

Also helps to take the dose in one go rather than to break it up too much.
Empty stomach, clear head, and away you go.
There's not too much to be afraid of if you know your own mind, and if you don't psychedelics will surely reveal!

Tried 2 strawberries recently. Very good, very potent. I was getting pretty amazing visuals. Lasted for a good 10 hours. Found them to be a bit stronger the than the Che Guevaras that are still floating around a bit. Perhaps between 125-150mcg. My sister also tried some DOC in a white flaky sort of form, she had heaps of fun, it lasted for at least 12 hours, I'm looking forward to trying myself soon.