LSD doesn't make me trip, tried it so many times

[hubidagubida]

Hello, I'm new to the forum, but I'll definitely be on here occasionally from this point forward.

I love psychedelics. My first successful trip was on 2c-e and that was really quite marvelous. Since then I've come to love (pure) mdma and mushrooms very much. I've done mushrooms a few times, and that's always a really great time. I've also tried acid (1-2 tabs) three times before this past weekend, and then again this past weekend. I've always thought the acid I was getting was bunk because I've never tripped on acid, only had uncomfortable feelings that are very subtle. So this past weekend, my very trusted friend had some "really good" acid, and she dosed me two candies with acid dropped on them. I dosed with a bunch of friends. Within a couple hours the effects came on and stayed for about 8 or 9 hours, but the effect was nothing like the feeling of tripping. Absolutely no visuals whatsoever (I don't normally get a lot of visuals, but I mean literally nothing at all). What it did do was make it slightly challenging to speak eloquently, almost like the only effect it had was to lower my iq 15 points for a few hours. Other than that I felt very baseline. This is the same effect I've gotten the previous times I've dosed and thought it was bunk. Also, every time I do acid I feel like I'm choking, there's so much tension in my neck and back and jaw, and I feel the need to move my jaw around (never gotten that effect before, even from mdma). Overall, I felt physically uncomfortable and a little dumb. Not a single visual, and no interesting thoughts. In fact, I really didn't have very complex thoughts at all. It was the most unproductive experience I've ever had on a drug. I felt like I would have gained more if I were drunk, even. Am I missing something? All my friends trip normally and have a great time every time we've ever dosed. Is it possible that acid doesn't work for me? Should I just up the dose a bunch? (I generally have high tolerance to all substances)

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

Have you tried taking it alone?

 

[Clocktower]

Sounds pretty typical of low-dose LSD. Take a little more next time. If that doesn't work, take a little more...

 

[dextrorfan]

You know, I've always had the same problem. Throughout my life I've had around ten different batches of acid from completely different people, and I've pretty much never had anything very interesting happen, at least not when compared to how insane my mushroom and other psychedelic experiences have been, even when I've taken 4 tabs of what seemed like good stuff. I have this theory that somehow I've just always gotten bunk, and that I'm just super unlucky, either that or LSD sucks, which I find really unlikely considering all the uproar. Although maybe all the uproar has always been wrong, 25i and 25c seemed like pretty shitty psychedelics to me too and everyone seems to like them.

Perhaps the most likely scenario is that our bodies just don't work very well with LSD, were your friends tripping very hard who took similar doses?

 

[Jackeh]

Do you know how much LSD you actually took? If not, LSD may not be at fault here and you don't have an immunity, you just aren't taking enough.

 

[4fOhmeohmy]

You're expecting to much of a stereotypical trip. LSD does something different for you, it does something different for everyone. I rarely get serious visuals off just a little acid. It's rare too. You're used to the visuals off the 2c's which are incredibly overpowering. Trying taking some more without the expectations. Maybe that will help.

 

[Solipsis]

You're not taking any medications are you?

If you want to see what higher doses are about, don't just jump in with an unknown batch. Use a batch of LSD you have used before and work your way up with it.
Maybe if the tense feelings persist, you are particularly sensitive to them and this drug is not for you. In that case, move on for a while and if you stay curious about tripping on other things, see what else there is.

 

[Anon610]

Wonder if it has anything to do with chemical in-balances in the brain.
Perhaps serotonin release? Does MDMA work on you?

 

[joe456]

While it doesn't seem to work too well for me, magnesium citrate may help reduce jaw tension. In my limited experience, despite getting visuals, acid is less therapeutic than MDMA and 2c-t-7 for me. I second the idea to take it alone though, I got more interesting, positive thoughts when taking in alone, during the day so I wouldn't be tired, and simply lying on my bed meditating, but stopping whenever an interesting thought popped into my head. I also got a fair amount of ego softening doing this. Also while I haven't tried it on acid, you can always provoke interesting thoughts by asking yourself how you currently feel about various things.

 

[wayab]

tabs are very often dosed very lightly. 80% of my trials with acid were as you describe but the other 20% were the most intense experiances ive had(usually the intense ones were with either liquid or windowpane)
i even stoped bothering buying acid any more because i feel im giving my money for nothing.
i had a friend - "big fan of acid". one time he took some diffrent batch and was "man that was not lsd everything was moving, colors were shifting it must have been laced with something"

 

[Dresden]

Trust me, real LSD will make you trip. Unfortunately there's not a lot of real acid going around and hasn't been for 10 years. If I were you, I'd stop wasting my money on bunk acid. That's what I did.

 

[5HToInfinity]

Hm, well I have a friend who didn't trip on acid from a batch that made me trip BALLS - being that I have a lot of tolerance and he had none, so I'm inclined to believe that some people are simply immune to acid.

 

[scrapguy420]

theres no way possible....ive eaten acid quite a few times too....ive never had pink elephants or reindeer or anything pop out...ive had the road move on me, tress bend, trails etc...but now 2CE ,that's the real shit

 

[Crashing]

Sounds like the typical perpetuated come up feeling with no trip due to under-dosing. LSD will give anyone a powerful trip with pronounced visuals, but the dosage at which this happens varies. Since we can never get legitimate dosages or blotters, it's a crap shoot whether or not you'll get a good trip, and hardly anyone ever knows how many micrograms they are ingesting unless they laid the crystal... which i highly doubt many have done.

edit- for me LSD provides the most powerful, most meaningful, and most preferred duration of effects for a psychedelic. it has become the standard by which i rate any other psychedelic. Mushrooms are on the same level for me.

 

[bongerman]

I agree with everyone saying quit wasting your money because once I stopped buying bunk after a while you find real. But also I agree with everyone saying your expecting to much LSD has been some of my weaker trips( not that I haven't taken alot of LSD and been really really high walls breathing things like that) when comparing it to 2c-x or shrooms but once you get real LSD and dose a couple of good hits you will get the trip you desire

 

[thatdreamer123]

This is odd... I've heard of people not tripping from LSD, but I've assumed it was bunk. I've also heard of people say it's not incredibly visual, but that's gotta be individual reaction.

while I am generally incredibly sensitive to all psychs (I had a full blown visual trip from a medium-high dose of morning glories), I had one hit of who knows how good of LSD and I was seeing into the next dimension for hours upon hours.

 

[The Shadow Self]

It's interesting because I hear over and over again things such as "I took LSD and didn't trip", or "I took 10 hits of blotter", almost cavalierly, and "LSD doesn't work for me." Now, I realize that everyone is different and there are lots of neuro-chemical reasons why someone may not respond to a compound, including people taking various psychotropic medications and so forth or other conditions or variable that might interfere with a compound "working". But for the record, let me just say that I wish I could go back to the 80's, into the early 90's, when high quality blotter and liquid was available pretty regularly, and the whole "rip off" mentality or people selling compounds as things they were not were very uncommon, especially within small circles of like-minded people with good connections for LSD in all its various incarnations. I spent the 80's doing LOTS of tripping, and just let me tell you, and this is not a "back in the good old days" comment, if I handed you some of the LSD that I got back then and you took it, it would change your life. Period. Enough so that you just may never do it again. I had many, many tranformational/spiritual experiences that took me to the very brink of my consciousness, and what felt like to the edges of the cosmos, and there was NO question that you took LSD, and really high quality LSD. I have been terrified and awed during some of my trips involving what would be considered heroic doses, but I also knew my friends, who were less psychonauts than myself, who tripped their brains out on one, one and a 1/2, or two hits of what I took maybe three, sometimes four of, and it was no joke. It wasn't, "Gee I feel weird", or "I had some visuals that were entertaining". No, it was like, you are going to the moon and not returning for many, many hours. Or I remember taking a big dose and "forgetting" that I took a drug and literally not knowing who I was or what was happening, and being terrified, warring with the trip until I got it under control and those horror stories would often turn into some of the most mind-blowing trips imaginable. Dropping at say 7pm would often have you peaking by 11 or 12 with a come-down lasting for several hours after that, and still feeling it well into the morning hours, and not being able to sleep until the sun came up without a couple of benzos or other sedatives. I recall struggling to try and explain what I had seen and experienced, in all its wonder, and just not being able to explain it, or having amnesic-like responses that made much of it fade like a dream that I had lived, like another life, something I am sure other people that have taken large doses of LSD are familiar with. These were experiences that had to be planned for, with environmental control and assurances that you wouldn't likely come in contact with that were not tripping, because you essentially were in a state in which you simply could not talk and make any sense at all, and didn't want to have anything to do with consensus reality, if you will. We regularly got sheets that were often WxW, or heavy, cardboard-like paper, perfectly perforated, with gold or blue stars, or any number of graphic designs, but almost always on HEAVY paper that was capable of holding large doses on it. I am sure many of these blotter doses held in excess of 100 mcgs, some that were probably closer to two, if you got some from someone who meant business. And to tell you the truth, it was most often clean as a whistle, and had that pure LSD feel and cleanliness to it, and provoked mind-blowing visions. I remember walking around at night and just looking around at what appeared to be an over-lay of every geometry lesson ever presented, in technicolor, and watched as everything pulsed, breathed, melted, turned into wondrous things of all kinds, etc. Yeah, you got lots of gas and farted like a maniac late in the trip, or on the come-down, and yes, you got that full-body soreness, back-ache, or feeling like you wanted to tie yourself in a knot, but it was just something that's common in large-dose LSD excursions. In short, I consider myself luck to have lived through that era, but I did have to stop dropping at one point because I was getting really depressed and struggling with stopping because I feared for my sanity. But that was my fault; I would buy sheets, keep them around, and have a hard time leaving them alone. And because the tolerance builds so quickly, and I had enough LSD to tinker around, I often dropped two days in a row, by doubling my dose the next day. And for those that haven't done it, yes, if you are dealing with the real thing, if you literally double your dose the next day, you can have quite the experience, but it is dangerous and I do not recommend it. I am really lucky that I survived my experiences, which went on for quite a few years. I quit for many years, and now, I do like to dabble with some RC's here and there, and I love the occasional 5 or 6 gram mushroom experience when I can. I have a lot of responsibility and a demanding job (in psychiatry, of all things), so I am pretty tame, but there was a time where I was an LSD eating machine that could not go far enough, or deep enough, or push the envelope enough. I recall someone saying to me, while I was tripping at a party, "Every time I see you it seems like you're tripping", to which I replied, "Because I am". Anyway, I am newly registered here, but a long time lurker, and thought I'd add that commentary. I just feel a need to set the record straight about some of the urban mythology and nonsense I hear from some people that "don't trip on LSD". It's because you aren't getting LSD or getting weak doses made by poor chemists who don't know what they're doing. I wish I could go back in time, grab a couple of those White on Whites and say, "Here. Take those and get back to me when you know who the f*^k you are again". And for those that claim they took 15 hits of this or that, I promise you...if you took 15 hits of some of what passed before me, you'd never be heard from again. Not in any coherent way. Again, not pulling the "old school" rank thing, just to add a little antidote to the silliness that I hear sometimes. If you get actual LSD and take it, in a significant dose, you respect and admire it for what it is, and it should scare you, too. It may not be around as much as it used to be, but it is worthy of that kind of respect and awe. It is nothing to toy with, and can send you to places you have no business going, and can have you hoping for it all to go away, praying that you "come back" from what you just brought upon yourself.

 

[Jagninja]

^^^^^Amen to that. I'm glad I caught the tail end of that era when sheets and microdots and vials of the most potent shit you could ever imagine were just as available as weed. You would never hear anyone say anything like, i think its not working or I'm immune to acid. I hear people saying stuff like you can't drink water when you have a tab in your mouth because the water will ruin it, or maybe it was your mindset, that's why you didn't feel anything. No man, a real high dose of some quality shit will fuck anyone up. LSD is like the most potent chemical in the world.

 

[The Shadow Self]

Amen to that.

 

[Psych-o-delic]

Yeah i bought a strip of ten hits of blotter acid. i took 1 hit to test the strength, and it was great. the next day i gave 3 hits to a friend and he took all of them and didnt trip. and trust me i know this wasnt no bunk acid. This say guy didnt trip on mescaline when i gave it to him either.