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LSD doesn't make me trip, tried it so many times

Are people expecting to see pink elephants dance down the street in yellow tutus? LSD does give you some visual effects at high doses but it's largely just seeing the world as tho it was a painting. Colours are enhanced, there's a slightly different feel to it. For me anyway. I certainly never see the pink elephants.
 
Just some visuals? That's just NOT high dose LSD. If you're not in fear and wondering if you need to go to seek psychiatric services, you are not tripping like LSD is capable of making you trip. If you aren't scared that you'll never be sane again, it's NOT high dose LSD. I took it too many times to know, and almost ruined myself in the process.This is more urban mythology and/or not getting real LSD. I am convinced that people are living thinking that they've taken LSD and they, in fact, have not. Those two above comments just completely defy LSD logic. Take several hundred mcgs of LSD, be pinned to the floor, psychologically, for hours, have a transcendental experience, and feel like you got run over by a truck the next day. It has nothing to do with "seeing pink elephants" or any of that silliness. If that hasn't happened, you have not taken a large LSD dose and or have gotten something other than LSD. This "pink elephant" talk reminds me of people talking about something they don't really know about. Again, if you had a serious LSD experience, it would have been one of the most notable things that's ever happened to you. So, Psych-o-delic. If you don't mind, I am curious to here what your "great" experience was like. If you don't mind, what was it like. What is "great acid". in your opinion. And this idea that taking REAL LSD is "like seeing the world through a big painting" is TOTAL nonsense. I am not trying to be a dick, but it's total bullshit. That's urban mythology. It's getting clearer and clearer that many people think or say they've taken large doses of LSD and they haven't. And to tell you the truth, small dose can be nuts as well. Be aware that the majority of the paper going around these days IS NOT LSD. Much of it is bunk nonsense or quasi-LSD-like RC's on blotter, bought off of website.
 
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I'm not sure what you're on about mate but I've taken enough LSD to stun a charging rhino and I've never been "floored" or in any fear at all. I don't get frightened on psychedelic drugs. Perhaps if you're getting scared you need to drop the dose.

And "seeing the world as tho it's a painting" is still the greatest description of the psychedelic experience I've ever heard.
 
Wow. Sounds like I've found the bullshit artist section of the forums. I have to say, nothing personal, but it sounds like there's plenty of nonsense getting spewed here, and I stand by my initial impression...that there may just be a bunch of of people spouting off that haven't actually taken substantial doses of actual, as in real, as in "what it's supposed to be", LSD. If you've never been scared on a psychedelic drug, you haven't taken a big enough dose. And trust me...I don't need to drop any dose of anything. Looking at life through a painting? Really? Nothing personal, again, but that sounds like something an adolescent who never really tripped before would say. You have posted here 10000 times? And taken heroic doses of LSD is like "looking at life through a painting?" Not scary? Ever? Really? I guess I found the wrong place, then. Wow. Just wow. Have fun, "mate". And good luck with the next 10000 posts. Hopefully you'll get some actual LSD to take by then. And if "looking at life through a painting" is what you get out of doing psychedelic drugs, the last thing I'd offer is a question: Why are you wasting your time with them? That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. And just for the record, when I hear people talking like you've been talking, I tend to think they are a fraud. You do sound like a fraud. You might want to think about how transparent and ignorant you sound, and after 10000 posts, you might want to consider finding another line of work besides being a fraud on a drug-related website. What you are saying does not mesh up with 10 years of taking LSD, and other things, and I know what I'm talking about. "I don't get scared?" Well, then I suggest you up the dose, because if you've never been scared while tripping, you've never really tripped. Again, my friend, your words ring rather hollow, and I definitely discovered that this kind of place is not for me. A drug site where you can't have a real discussion about one of the most potent chemicals ever known to man, because know one knows what the fuck they're talking about! That's just brilliant. Have a nice day, and enjoy the rhino-killing doses of...whatever that bunk shit you think is LSD actually is. Unreal.
 
^^^ I gotta agree with shadow on this, I've talked to so many people around here that claim to have eaten really potent acid and every time I get some of it it's some RC. I've seen so many kids at parties sitting there trying to pick apart their acid trip and question whether or not they are peaking or if their ego has been lost, trying to reference erowid with everything that they are seeing. It just makes me laugh. And I myself thought that I was a master at tripping, that nothing could go wrong, until I ate five drops of liquid that took about 20 minutes to come on. It hit so hard and fast that I got the fear. Almost freaked out but was able to hold on and maintain. I love LSD. Love it. I believe everyone should experience it at least once in there lives. But unfortunately the world we live does not allow that, and people are stuck with a plethora of RC's that don't hold a light to pure LSD. I've done 25i and 25c along with a bunch of other 2c's and they're fun, but I haven't had the life changing experiences I've had with LSD as I've had with any of those. It's like when I first started doing LSD and all the old acid head hippies were just sitting there shaking there heads saying that today's LSD is nothing how it used to be, you have to eat at least 4 hits compared to one hit back in the day. Now I'm shaking my head looking at these youngsters saying the same thing. I think that's what's wrong with today's youth, we just need some real LSD and everything will be fine, LOL.
But don't lose faith on here shadow, if there's anything I've learned on this site it's you have to have patience.
 
Shadow mate,

great posts on this thread. I agree with you about that guy never having taken lsd, total poser. Its easy for a lot of us to tell but its shitty for people who come here looking for info and have to read misinformation like that.

i agree with you about fearing for your sanity, thats a huge part of it and pretty much inevitable on a high dose. but also living through that feeling and getting past it is also what the experience is about. for me anyway

as to the guy who started the thread, i've often read about people in mental institutions being administered lsd and having completely different reactions than what most "normal" people have. Some didnt even really trip at all, in the conventional sense anyway. Not trying to say you are crazy or anything, but you might have some condition that makes you react way differently than most of us. But since you claim to trip off of other stuff, you're most likely just getting weak stuff and taking too little of it.
 
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looking at the world as if it were a painting???? I gotta agree with Shadow there, that is not a good rep of LSD thoughts..... oN very high doses of LSD I talked to a dog, well.... it talked to me but trust me at the time, the world did not resemble a painting. WHen on high doses of LSD there is a clear realization at times that you the user are technically insane.... experience leads to controlled insanity, but insanity is there and that should scare anyone who takes it much past 6 to 7 hits. People who don't know what they are doing wind up like Daniel Johnston that much I am sure of .... even if he did have issues prior to the doseing. controlled insanity can be a lot of fun, it can also be terrifying and life changing if unpreparred.

Here is my favorite quote

"all this stuff, all the patterns in the grass, on this driveway, there always there dude.... we just can't always see em..." Jimmy Mac at some point in the mid 90's

He also had one of the greatest quotes of a high dose of E ever

"I have never felt so sober mentally, and yet so physically altered in my entire life" (on 3 damn good bombs of E and alot of G-13 bong hits).



Everyone is different though, some people don't get the visuals, my friend Scott always tripped with us and he never got em, now he had well ... a thick percription and a stigma I think, he always got the mental and body high though... just never the visuals. I was always shocked and always thought he was fucking with me, and lieing but I think in retrospect he was truthful.
 
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Not scary? Ever? Really? I guess I found the wrong place, then.

Are you sure you havn't been banned and this is your new identity? 7 posts? And you're the world authority on LSD are you? Ok son, we'll just have to agree to disagree. You sound about 14. You go on being terrified and pinned to the floor whimpering every time you trip, I'll go on enjoying myself.

FYI, the first guy I heard say the psychedelic experience was like seeing the world through a painting was someone who'd taken ayahuasca about a thousand times. You ever heard of ayahuasca? If you shit yourself on LSD best keep well away from ayahuasca.
 
WHen on high doses of LSD there is a clear realization at times that you the user are technically insane.

I've never heard of this wead. "Technically insane"? Is that from the old story that "On 4 hits of acid you are legally considered insane"?

Everyone is different tho

True, but bear in mind a lot of people feel pressure to say how "far out" they're trips were - they're often young kids who think everyone will laugh at them unless they say they had a conversation with a tree. When you get a bit older you're a bit more confident of telling it like it is.
 
Insmene, I am responding to this and your above posts directed at me.

I have never seen elephants or things of that nature. However even at just 2 strong hits of white fluff out at Kenyon Colledge in the very early moments of 1995 I did see some very very rich Paisly patterns emerge from my blue jeans, they danced and moved to a music that was all there own. A far cry from a heavy dose, but trust me it was much more then colors being a bit brighter.

Maybe you are a bit more like my freind Scott and you are in a small group who isn't really effected by the visual aspect of LSD.


On 3 hits of good strong liquid, my girl freind and I at the time saw, and heard a sound. THis was durring the peak and as we sat talking to one another on the floor, the cieling swirled with colors and patterns that yes.... I may liken to a painting by Vangough.... but it was it's own little world.... Not simply vangough painting a cieling. In an odd moment a sound I cannot begin to describe evolved, and an odd kind of paramecium like creature emerged on the cieling and swam across the patterns within it. It had the word sound inside of it. We both heard and saw it.

Now admittedly when I was on that kind of dose I still had most of my mental capabilities to answer questions in an almost logical way. When I pressed the dosage up yes.... insanity I am quite sure became a reality for ohhh..... maybe an hour or so of a peak. Insanity can be fun.... where you laugh at nothing for hours, where a conversation between others being observed can sound like ohhh.... charlie browns teachers language.


I am quite sure if being questioned by anyone with a psych degree they would realize I was in a highly altered state. Having spent a fair amount of time in colledge level psych classes I have a different perspective then most.. I have to agree with Shadow on this point more then you....


No pink elephants, but at one point.... durring an hour of my one and only bad trip.... I screamed FUCK YOU directed at a house at a house party... yup thats right for some odd reason I was talking to a house. A friend of mine diescribes a horror story of being on large doses of mescaline in 1993, driving only 5 miles an hour and being pulled over by the cops at 2 am.


He can only remember bit and pcs but he remembers they asked him for his ID.... and he said he didn't have an ID

they asked him what his name was and he said ...."I don't know"........ they asked him what people call him and he said "Eric"

they asked him what his name was and he said "I don't know" they asked him what people call him and he said "Eric" he knows they asked him this several times before they pulled him out of the car.


others claim to have had Out of body experiences on higher doses, I have never done this. In the summer of 1995 on 6 hits I did however levitate a table infront of me. at least in my own head I did. It was a moment of percise control where I was able to clearly control the movement of my eyes to produce a trail effect that held the table in my cortex in a way that seemed impossible. I was really quite amazed. And realized this must be why people in the 50's and 60's thought doing large amounts of LSD may release some kind of telekenetic abilility.

the goverment used the 4 hit thing as propaganda sayng anyone has done that much even spread out over 4 trips they would be legally insane forever.. I never beleived that one obviously. but I do beleive that for an hour or so durring an intense peak on 400 + micrograms of LSD real LSD....most people would test out as insane for an hour.

the CIA ran a project in the 50's where they dosed unsuspecting patrons of whore houses and observed the effects. they got into deep trouble when the unknowingly dosed a senator or congressman, and the entire thing blew up in their face. This is referenced in the Movie Jacobs Ladder. Look up info on MK Ultra - it was quite real. Clearly most feel that it is more then just color enhancement.
 
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I dunno wead, I'm having trouble with this idea that not being able to handle your high on LSD is the same thing as being insane. I've had a little real world experience with close friends with mental problems and being insane is a helluva lot more serious than not being able to handle your high. I hope you never encounter anyone suffering genuine insanity in your life.

Oh I agree you see patterns and wavy stuff. Definately. It's just the talking to trees while an elephant in a tutu skips by kind of reports I have a little trouble with.

Mk-ultra also involved giving people massive doses of LSD in an attempt to make them "insane" or as some kind of truth drug. None of it ever worked. LSD simply doesn't make people insane. Hoffman said this pretty categorically in "My problem child".
 
It doesn't make people insane.... true. It can however generate brainwave patterns identical to those found when dreaming. It can be a pleasent dream, a healing dream, an awsome dream, but any dream can become a nightmare. I wouldn't take LSD and watch an oldschool horror movie like Psycho or Poltergiest because of this reason. and I think on a high does of LSD if a person was forced to watch something like that it may go very bad, or it may put that person in hesterics.... laughing uncontrolably depending on where they were mentally.

In regards to life.... and insanity, my own mother had a real breakdown. It came at a point after my grandfather had a stroke, and it devastated her. SHe was a functioning alchaholic at the time, and she got caught ina negative thought loop, I thought I could talk her through it I was wrong.

She wound up shooting a gun off in the house I grew up in... suicicdal cry for help of course, luckily no one was hurt. But it landed her in the Hospital, and then in a pychiatric ward. It started with lack of sleep, followed my massive amounts of straight Vodka.

She still has problems, but thankfully the booze is gone and has been for about 15 years. My point being YES, I have had some experience with people who really are insane, and I did draw a similarity to a strong LSD trip to the state my mother was in. The big difference is it doesn't stop, it doesn't end for them ther is no peak and no comedown. I was foolish to think at the time I could talk her through it, but I was only 22 at the time.
 
don't expect anything, peoples expectations have a systematic way of canceling out the actual experience
 
True wead, I think some people could have very unpleasant experiences on acid - particularly if I sneaked into their homes and appeared in their living room naked with a butchers knife and a hard-on while they were peaking - but I still tend to think that's a bit less unpleasant than being insane. At the end of the day you can always tell yourself "I'm high on a drug that will wear off in a few hours".

I had a friend who developed schizophrenia - very frightening thing to hear someone so out of touch with reality.
 
There are people who are immune to acid. I know one, i have witnessed him take 1000+ mic doses and he says he " kinda felt it" but it was like a light buzz. I took one hit of the same acid and was tripping off my face. I was reading about the MK ultra experiments at edgewood arsenal. They would sometimes find someone the acid had no effect on. One soldier they gave him several times the normal dose the 2nd time they saw him and nothing. Both trips they gave him had no effect. These are people who didnt know they had been dosed so here was no expectations or anything.
You could be immune to acid but its rare. You first need to rule out low LSD doses and take it with no tolerance. And you need to try a few times too. But yes its possible to be immune to it.


"I don't get frightened on psychedelic drugs"

That on the other hand is something i do not believe in. No one is immune to bad trips, you just havenet had one yet. I know someone who finally had their first bad trip after decades of use, and while i dont know you i would be willing to bet he's done alot more than you.

This yogi took 1200 mics and nothing.
http://miqel.com/entheogens/neem-karoli-baba-lsd-alpert.html
 
another reason why i think cough syrup (dxm) beats the hell out of acid. NOBODY is imune to it, its not like there are repeated threads on here of people dosing 600mg+ of dxm and not feeling it, the drug will always be the same and if you extract, it will always be the same potency and purity as it was back in the day and as it will be till a long time from now. Nobody can argue with pharmaceutical purity
 
Ok. I have only done LSD a couple of times since the '90s but it seems that most if you (presumably from the US) have become habituated to very weak doses of acid on your blotters. I used to go out into the hills and drop a Hoffman which supposedly weighed in at 350μg and everything would fuck up. I remember taking a second dose after a heavy trip the day before and sitting watching the sunset with tears streaming down my cheeks.

In those days you never used to hear about people keeping blotters under their tongue or dropping 10 doses at a time. If you didn't want your mind blown, you would take half a trip and even then you occasionally got a surprise. The two times I have taken LSD since then haven't been that different from the average 100-200μg dose from the old days. One was bought in Glastonbury in 2000 and one was acquired from a group of friends who are really into their drugs in about 2008. I live in the UK though and would never buy drugs from an unknown and untrusted street dealer. These days, I definitely prefer more selective psychedelics that don't rip my world apart. I'm old though :-(

The thing is, it's a matter of economics. If you are willing to buy blotters dosed at 10 or 20 mics, dealers will continue to sell them. Find a better way to procure your acid - if you look, you will find the road.
 
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True wead, I think some people could have very unpleasant experiences on acid - particularly if I sneaked into their homes and appeared in their living room naked with a butchers knife and a hard-on while they were peaking - but I still tend to think that's a bit less unpleasant than being insane. At the end of the day you can always tell yourself "I'm high on a drug that will wear off in a few hours".

I had a friend who developed schizophrenia - very frightening thing to hear someone so out of touch with reality.


ANyone who has taken a high enough dose can easily think that they have somehow damaged their brain, and created a permanent setting on the world they have created. Again this can be a positive thing or a negative thing. At one point a group of friends all on a relatively highdose, all created interesting theories and fantastic thought provokeing insights into the way the human brain works, and that infact with great meditative skills it is possible to re-eneter the world around them without the use of any chemicals.... THis is quite possible durring sensory deprivation - it is interesting to trip with a bunch of inteligent Psyche majors who understand the way the human brain works


BUT it can be negative as well... some people have very negative reactions, and freak out compleately, some of them see deamons in the walls instead of beautiful patterns and turn to a life if christianity to try and deal with the ramifications of thier trips...... when minutes can seem like hours due to time dialation it is easy to lose sight of OK... this will where off I will be OK... unless you have a great understanding and good setting for your trip

Me.... I have had that thought briefly, I have looked up into the night sky and watched the moon zigzag across the sky and become a spiderweb. That kinda twisted me up inside instead of putting a smile on my face. On lower doses the moon looked like a flower.... with one moon in the center and maybe 6 more in a ring around it.... and that is on maybe 2 or 3 hits. I guess I am greatly effected by the visuals on psychadelics. Like I said I levitated a table... in my own head I know.... but that is more then just patterns and stuff, it is a kind of visual streaming. I have never seen a persons face melt like wax, but LOL.... when looking a persons face it can shift only based on eye movement, shift right shift left shift, shif up and down, all things I could actually control, this I beleive is confused as face melting.


My one and only bad trip was self created but there was a clear trigger. I was holding and tripping at a huge party in Valley Forge, it was awsome a live band was there they had an ice slide for shots ....should have been a great time. I had some very good experiences tripping at house parties before even when surrounded be mostly strangers

But as I was coming up ona 10 strip... someone wanted to buy from me.,... I was so..... just coming into my trip I couldn't even think about money or what to do at the time, I told them it was very strong, and I asked for these kids to just give me some time and find me later... as they were walking away one asshole says

"Yupp... time to call the cops"

now he was fucking with me... but it sent me down a horrible negative spiral of.... howmany people know I have acid on me...... how many people know I am tripping... are they really gonna call the cops?????

and just like that I kinda snapped, Myf reinds tried to calm me down but to no avail wound up getting into a fight, yelling at the house screaming about a glass of milk, yelling fuck you at the house.... snatching a bottle a liquor out of a girls hand, taking a massive swig breaking it on the ground... big time party fowl clearly fucked up..... my freinds told me I had to leave.... some giant farm kid was gonna kick my ass and probably kill me if I didn't leave

so I left, I went out into fields, where I talked to a dog, who calmed me down, I thought the dog was going to be my forever freind and we were going to roam the fields forever... it made me happy enough to calm myself down. I did most of the talking, but at one point the dog looked into my eyes and said "you look like other dogs" Full fledged auditory halluciantion. The dog would not cross it's own property line and at that point it gave me a tiny grasp back into reality. But I still saw crazy deamonic faces emerge from hedges infront of me, the sky above was all purple and green and blue, and waaa waaaa waaaa nosies were so loud durring my peak I was sure aliens were about to land.

after about oh maybe 4 too 6 hours of roaming farm fields I slowly came back to reality and amazingly found my way back to the house party, by then most people had left.

I am probably lucky a farmer didn't shoot me for being in his fields, I am lucky I left, when I came back to the party the giant farm boy was still there.... he asked me if I was OK.... I said yes. Several of his freinds had found the stips of LSD I had hidden near where I was coming up..... fear o the cops made me dump what I had... and had taken some of it..... he said it was very strong and he couldn't imagine what taking 10 all at once was like.

He was fine with me at that point.... even as the sun rose I ( I had dropped at around 8 pm) at around 7pm 11 hours later I was still seeing huge trails just from people walking around. While he offered me money for the hits, I refused, I simply walked away from stronger drugs at that point for oh say 6 months. When I cam back to them it was a full reboot starting small testing the waters.

My point being the trigger can be some idiot messing with you, not a person sneaking into the house to show up with a butcher knife.
 
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