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I would also like to add that psychiatrists often do not have a huge knowledge of pharmacology. They have massive clinical experience, but from what I have observed often have a very fumbly knowledge of pharmacological specifics at best. I can understand why the psychiatrist would have been alarmed, because MAOIs are known to have life threatening interactions with serotonin releasing substances. The only error she made was assuming that LSD released serotonin (in actuality it just binds to, and activates the serotonin receptors). It can be quite easy to make an error like this, especially if you are not overly interested in recreational drugs.

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Myself and my friend finally scored some acid in Sydney, and it turns out the tabs are pink panthers. From the reports here I'm pretty happy about that :)

It'll be the first time any of us will have tripped, and these sound pretty damn strong. Do you think a whole tab each would be good, or be too much for first timers?

I don't want to be second guessing or half tripping, but I don't want to go insane either
 
Myself and my friend finally scored some acid in Sydney, and it turns out the tabs are pink panthers. From the reports here I'm pretty happy about that :)

It'll be the first time any of us will have tripped, and these sound pretty damn strong. Do you think a whole tab each would be good, or be too much for first timers?

I don't want to be second guessing or half tripping, but I don't want to go insane either

For first time trippers yes one tab will be sweet as long as they were well stored and not degraded. They are very nice tabs. Been tripping on em alot lately lol

Have fun with them, they are nicely LSD dosed tabs:)
 
Why does everyone say one tab is enough? I disagree, I've had mates who've had one tab and said it was too much, and others who've loved it.


I recommend having a half, then waiting until you've totally come up on the first half, if you like what you are feeling then have the other half.


You can always have more, but you can't take less.

Peace, happy tripping man.
 
Why does everyone say one tab is enough? I disagree, I've had mates who've had one tab and said it was too much, and others who've loved it.


I recommend having a half, then waiting until you've totally come up on the first half, if you like what you are feeling then have the other half.


You can always have more, but you can't take less.

Peace, happy tripping man.

I think it's better to start a first timer off with a bigger dose than normal because that way, if they really don't like acid, they won't want to do it again, but if they do like it, they'll fall in love with acid. As opposed to what happens when a person has an unsatisfying first trip their first time and decides they don't like acid because they don't realise how much better it can get.
 
If 200ug is too much on your first time, 100ug probably will be as well and acid might not be your drug.

There's no rule of thumb, but I think two tabs is a good starter dose for virgins.
 
I see that many are discussing tabs as if it is a measured consistent dosage amount for LSD. Some saying half a tab is enough others saying 2 is good, questions on how many tabs to take when X is happening and so on.
Tabs are bits of paper. Not LSD. The point I'm trying to make is that it is a very general thing to suggest that any amount of LSD tabs is the 'right' amount for any situation whether they be for others or yourself.
Most of the the time most of the tabs that have the same print will have close to the same amount of LSD in them, sometimes it may vary by several times the dose in one tab to another of the same print. Some prints seem much stronger than others too.
I've had a half tab that was stronger than 2 other tabs, I'm not going to suggest it definitely had more LSD and was a larger dose but I'd be very surprised if it wasn't.

LSD is quite safe in many ways and dosage is unlikely (IMHO) to be the biggest factor in someone having a 'bad' trip or otherwise harming them self whilst on LSD. That said I don't think it makes sense to suggest that by having half a tab that you are taking less LSD than if you took more than that amount. Half a tab can be a high dose sometimes, depending on the tab, yourself at the time and what is going on around you. Sure if you take 2 of the same tabs from the same sheet you are likely having 4 times as much but that isn't for sure.

It's acid. If you are looking for a predictable set of effects and an accurate dosage amount then maybe this is not the drug you should be choosing?
That said I think the more people that experience LSD in a positive way the better.

I tend to dose high so I'm not suggesting that you are unsafe by having more. Have as much as you want whether it be your first time or 1000th just don't assume you know how much that will be based on how many tabs are eaten.
And most importantly.. Have fun trippers!
 
I think it's better to start a first timer off with a bigger dose than normal because that way, if they really don't like acid, they won't want to do it again, but if they do like it, they'll fall in love with acid. As opposed to what happens when a person has an unsatisfying first trip their first time and decides they don't like acid because they don't realise how much better it can get.

I had half a tab my first time and it was pretty overwhelming, after seeing people take whole tabs, trip out and start having a bad trip. Most people who take acid the first time are hesitant about the whole "bad trip" element, as long as you have a low dose, then its much easier to handle.

Then again, most of the people i trip with are in their mid-late teens.
 
We arnt living in the early 2000's. Not like u will be needing half or quarter tabs like u needed to have beforehand. Todays tabs are nothing to what they were 8 years ago. A whole tab 300-500mics would floor all my mates n me. Ud be lucky to get 100-150mics per tab thesedays. We are talking about a well know tab that are consistent in strength. U generally cant say take a tab or half before u test them on urself and estimate how much is layed onto them.

In general all tabs vary in strength. My best advice is to take half the panthers and then if thats ok then drop a whole one next time. No point topping up after u come up and theres not much point in under tripping either. I found that with the panthers 1.5 is just perfect for me. Anymore than that and i just get way to confused and anything under 1.5 tabs is a waste for me. Everyones different so work out ur dose.

Also if u are in a bad frame of mind (having issues with life) do not take acid. Thats when bad trips happen. Ive tripped hundreds and hundreds of times and not once have i had a bad trip, sure there was a time when i had bad thoughts but it ended in a glowing experience. Whenever i feel sad, angry or have issues i never ever trip. Just got to be smart about it. Its powerful shit and brings out ur emotions.
 
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I found psychedelic's in the past to be of most help to myself when i have an issue surrounding my life. I guess it depends on the person's intentions with taking the substance.

In my opinion, it's better to dose with some type of goal.. it's easier to direct your trip like this. If your just dosing just to 'trip out' then sure, anything can and will happen.. As stonkalot said, if your looking for predictable effects, try another drug ;)
 
I have often thought that I need "T " plates when in the public eye. Similar to how other road users give L platers a wide birth, it would be nice for Joe Public to keep things simple. If I am standing with money in my hand, I don't want 100 questions or have to make several choices. Money.....hand......hungry.... please fill the void :(
 
Also if u are in a bad frame of mind (having issues with life) do not take acid. Thats when bad trips happen. Ive tripped hundreds and hundreds of times and not once have i had a bad trip, sure there was a time when i had bad thoughts but it ended in a glowing experience. Whenever i feel sad, angry or have issues i never ever trip. Just got to be smart about it. Its powerful shit and brings out ur emotions.
This is some quality advice.
I have found that the only times I know of people having a 'bad trip' they were all apprehensive about taking LSD before hand.
If you are thinking it might be a problem before it has effect then you may well find that carry through and 'cloud' the experience once tripping.

I too have never had a 'bad trip', experienced some unpleasant things at times and been very confused but that is part of the experiences I had and I enjoyed being tripped out during the difficulties.

Last time I took a fairly high dose of LSD I was in a life or death position on a mountainside, scrambling to get to a friend as a boulder as big as both our torsos came hurtling down the mountain towards us.
Scary stuff, hard to deal with the fact I thought my friend was about to die and I couldn't save them, hard to deal with the realization that I could have died if that boulder was a foot closer as it sailed past our heads...
But what an experience to have!
I wouldn't have seen it the same way now if I wasn't tripping when it happened.

Not something that I recommend you try to do, that shouldn't have been the dangerous situation that it was and things could have been worse in that situation because I was tripping and less in control.
However I'm ok and so is my friend. It was an emotional and frightening experience and I'm so glad that I had it now.
Other trippers mileage may vary.
 
Originally Posted by ActiveA View Post
Why does everyone say one tab is enough? I disagree, I've had mates who've had one tab and said it was too much, and others who've loved it.


I recommend having a half, then waiting until you've totally come up on the first half, if you like what you are feeling then have the other half.


You can always have more, but you can't take less.

Peace, happy tripping man.

That's one of the more sensible statements in this thread. Some here tend to forget this forum is read by a wide audience. Starting off with a lower dose for a first experience may not result in the full glory of the drug being felt, but it certainly allows for a more gentle introduction, and often makes it much easier for friends to talk someone down if things aren't going to well.


While shtonkalot raises some interesting points, I disagree on the whole dosage argument.

LSD is quite safe in many ways and dosage is unlikely (IMHO) to be the biggest factor in someone having a 'bad' trip or otherwise harming them self whilst on LSD.


I've seen heaps of people have a higher dose than they're used to and lose it completely, posing a danger to themselves and others; extreme violence, sexual assault, major panic-hysteria, you name it. I've seen previously calm people go into full rage; bash their friends, girlfriends, us, security or anyone who comes close. A few have had to be seriously restrained, and I'm not talking about a kind reassuring word. I mean being very roughly dealt with by security - even personnel who have personal experience with LSD - simply to avoid further injury to others.

Of course, it's more than likely many of these people were in some way predisposed, whether it be something in their past, their then current state of mental health, or other factors. But those factors are not always possible to predetermine. LSD might be fine for the majority who take it, but IMO and certainly from a HR perspective, it's certainly not responsible to advise large doses for newbees.

Sure this kind of thing might be viewed as similar to what can happen - and does - with alcohol, but my point is that dosage of most things plays a major factor in response, and LSD is no exception.

I have found that the only times I know of people having a 'bad trip' they were all apprehensive about taking LSD before hand.

While that may be the case in your experience, I could list a page of examples where this was not the case. I've seen those who were more than keen for a trip, an hour or so into it, totally fall off the rails.
 
I appreciate your points pd.
This is why I find bluelight such a valuable resource, you have obviously had experiences that I haven't and I can now learn from you.
I find it quite surprising that you have had such experiences with people taking LSD. Perhaps I am lucky or just the people that I've been with taking LSD have always been the right people in the right place and time. I have noticed weirdness in others at higher doses but never has that become violent or hysterical.

I would like to point out that I'm not suggesting people will be better off with higher doses than lower ones. Rather in my experience I have not noticed any correlation between dosage and negative experiences on LSD, in fact in my experience it has been the opposite.
Phase dancer's comments should serve as warning that this may not be the case however.

The experiences and opinions I write up should be taken for what they are, a single users point of view gained only from their experiences. Nothing I write up here is absolute and I do not doubt that others have different experiences when it comes to 'bad trips'.
 
Excellent post as per usual P_D

i think it is a valuable lesson to remind people that for a lot of drugs there is no "medical instant sober fix" like herion and naloxone. Most drugs have to be allowed to run their course through the system- the best thing some times is to be put into an accute psychiatric facility and tranqillised by trained staff unitll the episode is over.

always put less in, you can always add more if you need it later; but you cant take it out.

like dance safe say- less is more; we forget about the best parts f most drugs wjich are the subtle shifts in conciousness or perception. People skip straight to the smash/out of it which is inherantly more risky
 
Ok a bit of a funny question.
There is a brazilian chick at uni who wants to trip some acid with me and go see the salvetore dali exhibit. She's cute and there is a bit of sexual tension. But I don't know her that well and I've never tripped with anyone I don't know that well. We would only be taking like half a tab to one tab each.
I was wondering, has anyone tripped with someone they don't know much, whom they have a bit of sexual tension with? Also, should I grow some balls and just go trip with her? I think i know the answer to this, but some encouragement wouldn't go astray.
 
It can be weird tripping around unfamiliar people, but then again it can also be a bonding experience. I'd say go for it, the park across the road is a nice escape for when/if the gallery gets hectic, during the day at least. Short walk to the botanicals as well.
If you go and wander further after Dali into the free sections avoid the Victorian Era section, bleak and dark portraits of sour looking men. Lucy doesn't like them. :\

Go with the flow and see how it turns out.
 
i think it is a valuable lesson to remind people that for a lot of drugs there is no "medical instant sober fix" like herion and naloxone. Most drugs have to be allowed to run their course through the system- the best thing some times is to be put into an accute psychiatric facility and tranqillised by trained staff unitll the episode is over.

I just read an article in Vice yesterday where a bloke binged on several "anti drugs". The interesting one was the one that blocked LSD (page 2 of the article).

http://www.viceland.com/int/v16n8/htdocs/new-frontiers-of-sobriety-984.php

Still not the smartest thing to do in my opinion.
 
finally got to go tripping again (:)) two sunday's ago but what a strange thing to happen. got a lolly off a mate (i'm assuming this is the gelatine people talk about... i've never seen it before) and ate it about 7.15....

after about two hours, nothing is happening so i'm assuming that something has fucked up along the way (maybe it's a dud, or he's dropped water on the lolly at some point and not realised), i'm pretty sure nothings going to happen so i start discussing with people to go to watch the all ireland hurling final which starts at midnight.

at about 11 a group of us are sitting around and are starting to move when i feel the vibes kicking in. not sure if this is the start or a really mild peak so i think fuck it i'll just go along with it. we're walking to the pub and about 11.30 the vibes are getting strong so i realise this is the start of the trip so have to bail and go back home with one of the girls and we just chill out and i trip till about 7 or 8 in the morning.

couldn't believe how long that took to kick in. it was a good thing it didn't take another hour to kick in - coming up in a pub full of pissed irish watching a game of hurling is probably not the best environment for LSD... lol.

funny night in the end.
 
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