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drug_mentor said:
I smoke and am terribly unfit, but when I trip on acid I don't have any difficulty breathing. On mushrooms I do though, weird.
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Interesting.

I can't remember if I had the breathing problem on shrooms.

It's not so much difficulty in breathing like crackly throat explained above, it just feels so hard and so much of a hassle to breathe.
 
^Acid sometimes causes an unusual buildup of phlegm in my throat which makes me cough alot when I'm tripping.
 
Yeah I know what you mean, I don't get the crackly throat either, my chest feels heavy and it just seems to require more effort to breathe than it should.

My experience with acid is limited and my experience with shrooms is extensive, maybe its something that takes some experience to notice. A lot of drugs have more subtle effects that you really only start to notice when you are really familiar with the effects.
 
Jakeperson said:
I disagree as LSD gave me the insight I needed to start making changes in the right direction in my life to steer me away from depression. However, every one is different and I'm sure that won't apply for every one.
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heya jake- while i agree that at times certain psychotropic substances can assist with generating insight- from the reseach i ve read and the counselling i do - i find that insight comes from thinking outside of the square. Its still you and your mind; just a less restricted version with fewer constructs.

Psychiatrist was not in today- but will be tomorrow
 
Hey does anyone get really bloated on acid or shrooms? I feel like a balloon and can feel the water retention only when im tripping. Sober i dont feel it at all.
 
madmick19 said:
heya jake- while i agree that at times certain psychotropic substances can assist with generating insight- from the reseach i ve read and the counselling i do - i find that insight comes from thinking outside of the square. Its still you and your mind; just a less restricted version with fewer constructs.

Psychiatrist was not in today- but will be tomorrow
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what makes you think outside the square more than LSD? ;)
 
lsd makes you think outside the rhombus

not that ive tried any actually, but im hopefully getting liquid very soon

any advice?
 
Sustanon said:
Hey does anyone get really bloated on acid or shrooms? I feel like a balloon and can feel the water retention only when im tripping. Sober i dont feel it at all.
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I sure do! it was unbearable. I'd love to know a quick solution. The only time i ever bloat is on acid
 
Last trip I was thinking about the Doors of Perception, specifically Huxley's idea that the brain and ego act as a filter to reality, purely as a survival mechanism, and that drugs like LSD, mescaline, etc, remove this filter and allow us to experience our surroundings as they truly are. This suddenly made so much sense to me, in a much bigger way than any of the other thoughts and epiphanies I've had on acid, which often 'made sense' at the time but later were easily dismissed.

Like, it's undeniable that acid heightens your senses - your vision seems crisper, and colours richer, and you can much more clearly hear the details of music. Touch, taste and smell are all also amplified to a big extent fairly often for me. So, to me, it seems obvious that your body is capable of utilising its sensory inputs in a much more powerful way than that experienced in day-to-day life. But for your senses to be constantly in top gear would be much too overwhelming (hence why a filter for such is a survival mechanism).

Also, the fact that LSD acts as an antagonist (it is a serotonin antagonist, right?) in your brain, whereas non-psychedelic drugs tend to be agonists (including weed I believe) ties in with this idea as well. As an antagonist, rather than causing additional neurological processes to occur (eg MDMA releases serotonin) LSD inhibits them, and I think that this inhibition could be the 'removal' of the brain's filter.

Basically I am led to believe that Huxley was definitely onto something, and that psychedelics are completely unlike all other drugs. What do you guys reckon?
 
PsiloSubNaut said:
Oh fuck yeah

Although he says he's spiritual... We also need to dose Kevin Krudd ASAP ;)
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It would be great for world peace if we could dose all who attend the G8 conference. If only we could get the world's politicians to see through all the hate and bullshit.

've got my own cop's and LSD story. Second time tripping, and we were hitting some golfballs around a public golf course at night with a few beers in hand. All of a sudden a spot light shines on us. I would have been happy to go up and talk to them and see what they wanted, but my friends decide its a good idea to run.8o So we split up in the golf course and lose them. On the way back its me and another tripper and a sober friend. We're walking along another rd and the cops pull up next to us. They start interrogating my sober friend about what we're up too. Unfortunately, he spins them some complete bullshit about not been the guys who ran. The cops trip him up on the story, and all the time I'm thinking "God I do not want to be in the back of a divi van right now":(. I end up confessing it was us who ran and that we were drinking and didn't want to get in trouble.
Luckily the cop is like "we don't give a shit about that. We're looking for someone who committed a burglarly nearby". So yeah, all ended ok, and the cops ended up been pretty cool. but it kind of fucked up the trip for me for the next hour or two. My friends still give me shit about panicing, but I think I did the smart thing because it ended up getting us off the hook:\
 
jenkem said:
Last trip I was thinking about the Doors of Perception, specifically Huxley's idea that the brain and ego act as a filter to reality, purely as a survival mechanism, and that drugs like LSD, mescaline, etc, remove this filter and allow us to experience our surroundings as they truly are. This suddenly made so much sense to me, in a much bigger way than any of the other thoughts and epiphanies I've had on acid, which often 'made sense' at the time but later were easily dismissed.

Like, it's undeniable that acid heightens your senses - your vision seems crisper, and colours richer, and you can much more clearly hear the details of music. Touch, taste and smell are all also amplified to a big extent fairly often for me. So, to me, it seems obvious that your body is capable of utilising its sensory inputs in a much more powerful way than that experienced in day-to-day life. But for your senses to be constantly in top gear would be much too overwhelming (hence why a filter for such is a survival mechanism).

Also, the fact that LSD acts as an antagonist (it is a serotonin antagonist, right?) in your brain, whereas non-psychedelic drugs tend to be agonists (including weed I believe) ties in with this idea as well. As an antagonist, rather than causing additional neurological processes to occur (eg MDMA releases serotonin) LSD inhibits them, and I think that this inhibition could be the 'removal' of the brain's filter.

Basically I am led to believe that Huxley was definitely onto something, and that psychedelics are completely unlike all other drugs. What do you guys reckon?
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Completely agree.

I cant remember where i heard it.. but i remember someone mentioning the mind of a 2-3 year old, people often cite they felt like a child again while under the influence of a psychedelic. This is because at that age you havn't fully developed a filter to filter out unnecessary information.. that's why you'll see children of that age running around shopping centers and getting caught up in all the detail of there surroundings..
 
malakaix said:
Completely agree.

I cant remember where i heard it.. but i remember someone mentioning the mind of a 2-3 year old, people often cite they felt like a child again while under the influence of a psychedelic. This is because at that age you havn't fully developed a filter to filter out unnecessary information.. that's why you'll see children of that age running around shopping centers and getting caught up in all the detail of there surroundings..
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doug sellman a psychioatrist from NZ is looking into the benefits of LSD around generating insight. Its funny that as we grow older- we grow more mindless getting into the business of life.

Its not surprising that LSD and other psychoactive for a period of time makes us more attentive to the world we inhabit. THere is a big swing in therapy these days toward buddhist tradition of mindfulness- which is like a waking and sober state quite of noticing and awareness.

its the same type of training that raam dass and the other harvard researchers found more useful and sustainable than taking psychoactive substances.
 
The above few posts are very interesting and its sort of along the lines of what i had been thinking. That while on these sorts of drugs its like you get to experiance what our brain is hiding from us.

are there any books i could read about pshycadelics?
 
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