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You guys are so way off. Omg it cracks me up. Ok, if you really want to know, and i hate talking about this, another reason I'm on social security is for post traumatic stress syndrome along with my fractured back. And no, i won't say what the PTSS is for. But if you knew what it was for you'd be sickened to what happened me, just sickened! And i have to live with it the rest of my life. I went through something 7 years ago that NO ONE SHOULD have to go through NO ONE!!!!!!! Yea, it's that bad people. I'll never be the same again, it ruined my life. Think what is the worst thing that could happen to a person-- yea THAT~!

I am not leaching off the system, i have REAL Pain, i don't sit around getting high all day and on top of that i help take care of my Grandma, as best as i can considering my condition.

All you people are making assumptions and judgements on something you know nothing about. But, i don't care what you think, long as i know the trust, my family knows the truth and my doc knows the truth it doesn't matter what you all think.

I worked all my life, paid into the system. I worked 2 jobs for a long time. And than i get hurt and i also experience something that is horrible, so i am entitled to be on social security.

Do you all want me to scan my x-rays so you can see my fractured back, do you want to see police reports?. And yes, lots of people have back problems like that other person so kindly SAID A IN CAPS! But, i have a specific problem that causes me severe pain. And no i am not in denial about being an addict, i frickin' admitted i abuse my drugs sometimes. Not all the time but i occasionally do, that is not denial.

All you judgemental people truly make me sick to my stomach. I worked my whole life, i gave to the system and now the system is helping me. But, no matter what i say you chose not to believe me and keep saying i am taking the system for a ride.

If you only knew what I've been through the last 7 years you'd probably have to go to the toilet and throw up if you knew what happened to me!!!!!!

This is the last time i am explaining myself but feel free to keep flaming me and spreading lies about someone you don't know.

Even though i am disabled, i volunteer with AIDS babies, animals and a few other things... within the boundaries of my condition. And i am very proud of that and i have seen misery at it's worse i have felt misery at it's worse.

Have fun flaming me, this will be the last time i come to this thread because it sickens me beyond belief.

Oh, and have a lovely day oh and PS, yes i had to fight for my Social security just like you did. OMG YOU MAKE ME SO GOD DAMN SICK!!! If you only knew what my life is like.

RPG
 
Everyone should calm down has anyone heard of Cognitive Liberty, everyone has the right to get high it doesnt matter if you(anyone) are in pain or not and people shouldnt be arguing about who has the right to get drugs from a doctor. If someone is mad because someone else is on SSI thats ridiculous be mad at the system as RPG is using the system to her benefit as should anyone else who qualifies isnt that why its there?
 
They're just trying to find someone who embodies this stereotype of the junkie welfare leach, because that is obviously where they have decided to focus their frustrations and rage.

Addicts are human beings who have just as many problems as you, and you can make value judgments on whether their suffering matters or not, but they are suffering just the same. Riding a high-horse of self-righteous judgment because you worked hard and served this country won't help your suffering, or any of these people who are here trying to get help.

Since you are injured and not able to work, maybe this would be a good time to try to focus on developing yourself as a person, increasing your compassion towards yourself and others, paying attention to what really makes you happy and the fact that part of your life, is your own death.
 
svacheme3 said:
mvhawks1978: What professionals say dose increases are never needed in patients who don't abuse their meds? Because the American Academy of Pain Management and the American Medical Association disagree.

I've been on the same dose of meds for 3 years. and Mine work just as well.
When your a seeker you abuse and when you abuse your tolerance skyrockets
everyone is different and some with severe pain do need increases..
Mine have worked just as good as they did 3 years ago..
But I'm an addict and I would love more and more, but I'm great full to get the relief so I can function day to day. Sooner or later your gonna scam more and more THEN WAM your cut off..HAHA Then your really fucked. Or your gonna hurt yourself and then your fucked cause your tolerance is so high there gonna say oh well you shouldn't have abused in the past..
It will catch up to you and you will be fucked LOL...
Or your doc. will get busted or move and the next one you try to scam will start you on 5/325 percs.. Then your fucked and off Doctor shopping you go..:!
 
Imitrex (Stat-dose injection).....gets rid of my migraines like no other.

I don't like opiates. They make me loopy.



//leaving thread. I hate unnecessary drama. We should not judge, lest we be judged. It would do well for everyone to remember that.
 
RoxiPoppyGirl said:
You guys are so way off. Omg it cracks me up. Ok, if you really want to know, and i hate talking about this, another reason I'm on social security is for post traumatic stress syndrome along with my fractured back. And no, i won't say what the PTSS is for. But if you knew what it was for you'd be sickened to what happened me, just sickened! And i have to live with it the rest of my life. I went through something 7 years ago that NO ONE SHOULD have to go through NO ONE!!!!!!! Yea, it's that bad people. I'll never be the same again, it ruined my life. Think what is the worst thing that could happen to a person-- yea THAT~!

I am not leaching off the system, i have REAL Pain, i don't sit around getting high all day and on top of that i help take care of my Grandma, as best as i can considering my condition.

All you people are making assumptions and judgements on something you know nothing about. But, i don't care what you think, long as i know the trust, my family knows the truth and my doc knows the truth it doesn't matter what you all think.

I worked all my life, paid into the system. I worked 2 jobs for a long time. And than i get hurt and i also experience something that is horrible, so i am entitled to be on social security.

Do you all want me to scan my x-rays so you can see my fractured back, do you want to see police reports?. And yes, lots of people have back problems like that other person so kindly SAID A IN CAPS! But, i have a specific problem that causes me severe pain. And no i am not in denial about being an addict, i frickin' admitted i abuse my drugs sometimes. Not all the time but i occasionally do, that is not denial.

All you judgemental people truly make me sick to my stomach. I worked my whole life, i gave to the system and now the system is helping me. But, no matter what i say you chose not to believe me and keep saying i am taking the system for a ride.

If you only knew what I've been through the last 7 years you'd probably have to go to the toilet and throw up if you knew what happened to me!!!!!!

This is the last time i am explaining myself but feel free to keep flaming me and spreading lies about someone you don't know.

Even though i am disabled, i volunteer with AIDS babies, animals and a few other things... within the boundaries of my condition. And i am very proud of that and i have seen misery at it's worse i have felt misery at it's worse.

Have fun flaming me, this will be the last time i come to this thread because it sickens me beyond belief.

Oh, and have a lovely day oh and PS, yes i had to fight for my Social security just like you did. OMG YOU MAKE ME SO GOD DAMN SICK!!! If you only knew what my life is like.

RPG

If all you have is a fracture in your back, then it's either going to get better or you need to have it physically repaired. I see that you talk about PTSS. It's actually PTSD.... I know all about that, because I have it. I am sure you might have been through something horrible in your life and I feel for ya, but having PTSD does not warrant you to take more pain medications. I will not change my opinion on the whole social security thing. I think it's crazy that my physical condition is far worse then several people who get approved for benefits. I also would guess that my PTSD is far worse then some people too and I can't get approved. I won't get into details either, but I will say that several thousands of men and women have the same exact PTSD as I do from fighting for this country and none of us get SHIT in return. So with that said, I do think it's bullshit that people get approved for social security who have small or simple disabilities. The difference with you and I, is that you LOVE to be on pain medicine and be on your computer all day. I fucking hate pain medicine and I fucking hater being in pain. So with everything said, I just see that you are the only one who sends out messages that contradict how the system really works. If you are in pain, then you need pain meds, I agree. But you should also try some other ways to get rid of pain.
 
mvhawks1978 said:
If all you have is a fracture in your back, then it's either going to get better or you need to have it physically repaired. I see that you talk about PTSS. It's actually PTSD.... I know all about that, because I have it. I am sure you might have been through something horrible in your life and I feel for ya, but having PTSD does not warrant you to take more pain medications. I will not change my opinion on the whole social security thing. I think it's crazy that my physical condition is far worse then several people who get approved for benefits. I also would guess that my PTSD is far worse then some people too and I can't get approved. I won't get into details either, but I will say that several thousands of men and women have the same exact PTSD as I do from fighting for this country and none of us get SHIT in return. So with that said, I do think it's bullshit that people get approved for social security who have small or simple disabilities. The difference with you and I, is that you LOVE to be on pain medicine and be on your computer all day. I fucking hate pain medicine and I fucking hater being in pain. So with everything said, I just see that you are the only one who sends out messages that contradict how the system really works. If you are in pain, then you need pain meds, I agree. But you should also try some other ways to get rid of pain.


Mvhawk it doesn't matter that YOU think what YOU have been through is worst then somebody else's pain because you know what? Everybody wether they are on disibilities or not has been through shit. Each person think whatever they have been through is worse then what someone else hs been through. Almost everybody feels like they have experienced anguish that noone else has felt, something so painful that nobody else could even fathom.

It's not about more or less pain. It's not a contest and it does not matter what the experience was that somebody had or is having. To each person their individul pain is the worst because they are the one who went through whatever it was they went through. Whatever happned to YOU will seem more painful or worse then what someone else went through because YOU are the one experiencing you're own life. YOU are the star of you're own show.

You may feel thay someone else has a small or simple disibility but to them whatever they have or whatever they are feeling is huge and what you have or went through will seem small and simple to them. They will probablly have
empathy for you and compassion however their deal is still bigger to them.

An the same goes for roxi girl. Any MRI somebody has will show something wrong with their back. Just from being alive we aquire tears and degearation. Who is she to say her pain is more severe. Almost everyone will feel that their pain is more severe. An Roxi girl a good amount of your pain probablly does not come just from you're injuries but from the withdrawal you experience everyday before you take you're med's. So each morning you wake up thinking you're mucsules and back are in so much pain but it's just withdrawal and you're withdrawls before you take your meds are probablly what's more severe because you abuse your meds. An when you abuse them your withdrawal is worse so you think your just building up tolarence. Another reason to not abuse your meds.

Anyone else have any opinion's on the matter?
 
I believe that ppl who actually need opiate pain meds should be able to get them without jumping through a bunch of hoops. However, i dont think its right when ppl try and scam doctors because they want to get high. It makes it more difficult for patients with real pain to get properly medicated by their doctor for fear of getting a visit from the DEA and state licensing board.

Yea im sure just like me, everyone at some time or another has gotten lucky at the dr's office, but making it your means of getting high is fucked up. Come on and have some respect for ppl that actually need pain meds. With so many ppl faking back pain, kidney stones and whatever other scams ppl pull, its making a lot of good compassionate caring dr's scared to RX anything stronger than vicodin for fear the drug is going to get diverted and misused.

And i mean think about it, if you were in the Dr's position, you would want to cover your own ass too. I know i would. And also think about what that dr might have to go through by falling for some drug seekers BS. Loose their license to practice medicine, get investigated by the DEA....end rant.
 
Any intresting Doctor stories?

I've been to two Doctor's One in another state I lived in and I've ben going to the one I go to now for about 5 months.I'm currently prescribed 60 OC40's ER 1 in the morning and one in the night. I also take 300 OC30 mg IR 2 every 3 hours.

I don't have any intresting doctor's stories of my own but i'd like to hear some of your's.
 
Wow ... this thread has totally derailed .. You all claim to be adults yet your acting like 3 years old arguing about how gets the red crayon .. Nobody has the right to judge anybody just because of what their interpret their post as being , end of story .. but on the other hand You dont have a right to abuse your medication just because your doctor gives you x and x amount . fuck i like pain pills too but guess what .. i normally end up with more than a few extras when it comes time for my next visit and i have more than moderate pain on a daily basis .. if you have to go back for refills , constantly have your dosage upped all the time , losing your prescriptions , running out early then you might want to deeply think about what you may be doing because THAT is not Normal , no matter what you say .. there is no excuse for it .
 
Firstly.. What i have is more than a simply fractured back, it has a domino affect on my body. I forgot to mention i also have arthritis, severe arthritis, I've had it since i was a gymnast 20 years ago. I also suffered a gymnastic accident that left me in pain the rest of my life- My knee's and all area's near growth plates, i had to quit gymnastics at 14 because the pain was to severe for me.. Some days i can barely walk. So since you want to get technical here, ok... you know what else i have? When i hurt myself in another gymnastic accident- during an event, i did something to the nerve in my neck and i have constant pain in the lower part of my head. I didn't want to get into detail about all my injuries because it seemed pointless because no matter what i say you won't change your opinion about me. And Thank GOD OPINIONS aren't FACTS! 15 years of gymnastics has left my body a mess. And yes, i know not all gymnast have this problem but i was one of the unfortunate one's. The pain i have in my lower head is like someone pricking my nerve all the time.

And some of my injuries CAN'T be fixed with surgery, so get off of that already damn it!

PTSS/PTSD, it was a frickin' typo, good god. And no it doesn't warrant me to take more pain meds and that isn't why i take more pain meds, i have a psychiatrist who helps me with this. I'm sorry you have it as well. For me, it was the worse thing any woman could ever go through. And how do you know your PTSD is worse than mine? Post Traumatic stress syndrome is bad for everyone, no version or one's experience of it is worse than any other.

And i to hate people who leach off of Social Security and i am NOT one of those people. I had to go through a lot to get SSI, i had to see doctors, have tests, be evaluated. Because i didn't have a lot of text book conditions they needed more and more proof. Finally when i went before a judge the judge said "you should not have had to go through all these denials and appeals, you clearly have a severe disabilities- emotional and physical and should have been granted social security right away. 6 weeks later i got an approval letter from this judge with a hefty retro check. So don't go off on me telling me i don't deserve social security or i am leaching off of the system. Oh and i don't get frickin food stamps. I barely get ANYTHING from social security. And why is that, because of all the people who leach the system. If it wasn't for them YOU and I and everyone else who truly deserves it could get it.

And how do you know that your illness/conditions are worse than mine? HOW do you come to that conclusion? At least i have never said that my condition is worse than yours. How do you know that i am not in as much pain as you. I have to live with pain every god damn day of my life. At one point i even thought of suicide the pain was so unbearable. That was a few years ago, before i found decent pain relief from a great doctor. Do you know how many times my poor Grandma has come into my room and seen me laying on the bed crying with tears rolling down my face because the pain was so bad. All she could do was sit there and rub my back and try to make me feel better, she said "I feel so helpless, i wish i could help you" And than she'd cry. And i hated seeing my Grandmother cry.

I'm sorry you and the wonderful men and woman who have served our country can't get social security, i really do. I appreciate what these men and woman have done for our country. And you do deserve some sort of benefit from or government. And i DO NOT HAVE SIMPLE DISABIITIES. I have some mild one's and some rather severe disabilities. You are not my doctor so you can't sit there and say my injuries/illnesses/conditions are simple and not deserving of the benefits i get. I wish my disabilities were simple, OH LORD do i wish that. I could go about my business and fallow my dream of being a zoologist and photographer, but NOPE that dream is shattered now. I'll never be a zoologist. My dreams have been ruined because of my post traumatic stress syndrome and because of my several injuries and conditions. I'd give anything to be able to get rid of this pain and fallow my dreams. Instead... when i was first told i couldn't work, i said to myself "OK, since i can't work or go to school, i will try and make myself a better person and learn what i can with the spare time i have and that's exactly what i did. I thought myself computer graphics while laying in bed. I studied astronomy, mythology and whatever else i was interested in. I never have wasted my time, I've never been one to sit around and do nothing. And i take care of my grandma as best as i can and within the boundaries of my illness and conditions. And i sue as hell don't sit around getting high all the time.

And yes i enjoy pain meds but i DON'T LOVE them. If i didn't have pain, i honestly believe i would taper down and get off of all this shit. I even tried a few times but i couldn't handle the pain. You're making me out to be a criminal just because I'll treat myself to my meds once in a while. And out there in the world there are child molesters, rapist, torturers and your sitting there typing trying to make me feel like i am the worst person in the world and i am a criminal. You should take that negative energy you have towards me and use it and turn it into something useful. And no, i am not on my computer every god damn minute. I sit here maybe 15 minutes at a time and than i usually go lay down for a while. I can only sit at the computer for a little bit because the pain becomes to much.

And about NOT trying other things instead of pain meds. I HAVE DONE THAT and done it over and over: Non-Opiate pain meds, Epidurals, Therapy, aqua therapy, traction therapy, palates, Ultra sound therapy. I even went to a class that helps people deal with their pain and what exercises they can do t help my pain. So don't tell me i haven't done anything but take opiates to help my pain.

You seem to be very bitter and you're taking it out on me. Well, you want to know why i am bitter. My Grandma who is 84, worked 2 jobs for 30 years and raised 3 kids all on her own (her husband split when my mom was 3)... he went out for milk and never came back. Ok, so now she is retired... and she gets barely anything because of the illegal aliens who come over here and use every single benefit the government offers (I'm not saying all of them, there are some IA's who are wonderful people and work hard for their money) And my Grandma gets barely anything because people who fake injuries to get on social security. If it wasn't for those people my Grandma and myself and YOU would be getting a much better benefit/social security from out government but no, instead the government gives all these programs and benefits to fakers and illegal aliens who come over here. THAT'S WHY I AM BITTER. My Grandma deserves a lot more from Soc Sec than she is getting.

I can under stand why you are bitter, but it's not my fault. I am doing absolutely nothing wrong. My injuries are not fucking simple, lord knows i wish they were, i wish i could work... you think i like living off of god damn 500 bucks a month. DO YOU?

You are so fucking way off when it comes to me and you have no right to judge me like that. Like i said before... i have worked since i was 18 years old (37 now), i paid into the system, paid my taxes, i am a good citizen, i volunteer, i try to make my community better, i take care of my Grandma. And as a pre-teen i suffered a horrible injury during a gymnastics event, than i had to go through something horrible that left me with post traumatic stress syndrome... And also because of the gymnastic i developed horrible and painful arthritis and than lucky me, i was in a horrible accident and i did more than FRACTURE my back. I can barely move most of the time. In the morning, i can't even walk, some mornings i have to use a cane. I have to use a cane when I'm on the buss. I even had to use a wheel chair one day when my Grandma and i went out somewhere.

So will you get off my case already. My injuries are not a simple back problem. Take your negative energy and bitterness and put it into something positive and give people the benefit of the doubt and don't assume because someone occasionnally abuses their pain meds that they are fucking faking it and don't deserve social security and sit around getting high all day. How do you get off doing that.

I wish i could sit down with you and show you all my medical records and doctors notes and diagnoses. I wish my doctor could sit down and talk to you but i bet ya any money you still wouldn't believe me because instead of trying to grow as a person, instead of trying to become a good person you chose to make other people feel bad about themselves. I used to be very negative and i turned myself around. I became the good person i always wanted to be. There is so much more to life than what is going on right here in this thread. There is a world out there.... make your life more positive instead of making other people feel like shit or make assumptions about them and judgements. How would you feel if the shoe's were reversed here.

I am rising above this because that's all i know how to do. Your opinions of me have no affect on me what so ever. Later tonight, i will log off and not give you a second thought because i am a happy person and i surround myself with positivity instead of making other people feel crappy when it's not warranted. You must feel very small to make other people feel bad. That's text book psychological behavior on your part. You feel like shit, so make others feel like shit as well.

I am done with this. I will never respond to this thread again, nor will i reply to it. What you chose to believe about me is your opinion and maybe a few others opinions as well but thank god OPINIONS aren't FACT. What i say about myself is factual and you and no one else can ever take that away from me, not even with negative and cruel replies in some forum and from some person i don't even know.

Here is some advice for you. Instead of making people feel like shit, instead of accusing people of faking and leaching off the system do something positive with that energy like try to help people on this forum. Tell your story and maybe people will understand you better and maybe you'll actually help someone. Take that negative energy you have and do something good with it. We only have one life, we don't get much time here... so you have to make the best of it as you can, even if you have a disability like yourself, me and a lot of others here. Try to do something positive with that incredible bitter negative energy you have.

Be well and i wish you the best. Take care and good bye to this thread!

RPG


mvhawks1978 said:
If all you have is a fracture in your back, then it's either going to get better or you need to have it physically repaired. I see that you talk about PTSS. It's actually PTSD.... I know all about that, because I have it. I am sure you might have been through something horrible in your life and I feel for ya, but having PTSD does not warrant you to take more pain medications. I will not change my opinion on the whole social security thing. I think it's crazy that my physical condition is far worse then several people who get approved for benefits. I also would guess that my PTSD is far worse then some people too and I can't get approved. I won't get into details either, but I will say that several thousands of men and women have the same exact PTSD as I do from fighting for this country and none of us get SHIT in return. So with that said, I do think it's bullshit that people get approved for social security who have small or simple disabilities. The difference with you and I, is that you LOVE to be on pain medicine and be on your computer all day. I fucking hate pain medicine and I fucking hater being in pain. So with everything said, I just see that you are the only one who sends out messages that contradict how the system really works. If you are in pain, then you need pain meds, I agree. But you should also try some other ways to get rid of pain.
 
whoa thats a long quote Roxi girl! But hey you forgot to read my post. Let me explain to you what's really happining to you. It's not severe pain your going through it's morning withdrawals and it comes from abusing your meds and taking so much more then you need that your body becomes dependent in on it and that's what your experiencing.

An the same goes for roxi girl. Any MRI somebody has will show something wrong with their back. Just from being alive we aquire tears and degearation. Who is she to say her pain is more severe. Almost everyone will feel that their pain is more severe. An Roxi girl a good amount of your pain probablly does not come just from you're injuries but from the withdrawal you experience everyday before you take you're med's. So each morning you wake up thinking you're mucsules and back are in so much pain but it's just withdrawal and you're withdrawls before you take your meds are probablly what's more severe because you abuse your meds. An when you abuse them your withdrawal is worse so you think your just building up tolarence. Another reason to not abuse your meds.
 
Damn, i wrote this beautiful reply that i think would have made everyone happy and somehow brought us together a little bit. It was long and fill of acceptance, giving people chances... all that feel good stuff that makes people want to forget past assumptions and opinions and i gave some of my true story. Pizza, i even think you would have appreciate it and may have we may have even raised a white flag. I twas beautifully written, i was so prod of myself.

And i accidentally hit 'go back' on my browser and it took me to the previous page, no big deal right, because usually if you type something in a reply and than go back to check the page prior when you come back what you've written is still thee but it wasn't. I searched everywhere for it, i even used my history and it's all gone.

I am so mad. I think this post i made was going to bring us together and make amends.

Does anyone know how i could retrieve a reply that wasn't finished yet and have it all back in the reply box? Usually i can leave a page, come back and my written reply is still there.

OMG i am so mad. This post was amazing and it took me 30 minutes to right and i think everyone would have been blown away by it. It wasn't cruel, it was about us coming together to create positivity and get rid of the negativity here.

Anyone know how i can retrieve it? If not I'll have to some how rewrite it again tomorrow but it's going to be hard and i don't want to miss anything i wrote or leave anything ot. It was mainfr pizza but i wanted everyone to read it in case they were ever in the same position pizza Ned i were in.

UGH. Any thought. This is what i get for not doing a quick save half way through and than another toward the end. I really think this reply would have gotten this thread in the right direction and healed how we were felling.


ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
 
Roxi moron

RoxiPoppyGirl said:
Damn, i wrote this beautiful reply that i think would have made everyone happy and somehow brought us together a little bit. It was long and fill of acceptance, giving people chances... all that feel good stuff that makes people want to forget past assumptions and opinions and i gave some of my true story. Pizza, i even think you would have appreciate it and may have we may have even raised a white flag. I twas beautifully written, i was so prod of myself.

And i accidentally hit 'go back' on my browser and it took me to the previous page, no big deal right, because usually if you type something in a reply and than go back to check the page prior when you come back what you've written is still thee but it wasn't. I searched everywhere for it, i even used my history and it's all gone.

I am so mad. I think this post i made was going to bring us together and make amends.

Does anyone know how i could retrieve a reply that wasn't finished yet and have it all back in the reply box? Usually i can leave a page, come back and my written reply is still there.

OMG i am so mad. This post was amazing and it took me 30 minutes to right and i think everyone would have been blown away by it. It wasn't cruel, it was about us coming together to create positivity and get rid of the negativity here.

Anyone know how i can retrieve it? If not I'll have to some how rewrite it again tomorrow but it's going to be hard and i don't want to miss anything i wrote or leave anything ot. It was mainfr pizza but i wanted everyone to read it in case they were ever in the same position pizza Ned i were in.

UGH. Any thought. This is what i get for not doing a quick save half way through and than another toward the end. I really think this reply would have gotten this thread in the right direction and healed how we were felling.


ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Hey you keep responding to posts from MVHAWK how about responding to my questions and posts? Wait! Didn't you say goodbye to this thread and that you wouldn't be back? Maybe you don't suffer from chronic pain but from being a chronic liar.
 
You guys are all asses :P

I hate losing my post like that, I always copy when I get a big chunk down because that has happened to me so many times.

Whatever, you guys have fun arguing.
 
It's a shame you guys are seemingly incapable of intelligent debate. Your tangent could have made for a very interesting discussion relevant to today's Drug Culture.
 
giving up

has anyone ever had every single drug they fell in love with turn on them to where you have no choice but to quit? I mean when you try every method of ingestion available or every form of the drug invented and no matter what it does the same thing to where you just go "fuck it" ?
 
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