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Life Suspended - the madness of UK Drug Treatment
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getreal
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charlie clean
Bluelighter
Yassum! Power to the people! Vive the Opium All Stars and the Junkie Liberation Front! Freedom for Dopesville!
The 2nds have reported. Recommend we get our scripts back. Not sure about everyone - some peops won't be seen till 5-30pm - but the four with whom I've talked are all happy bunnies too. The dsp says it'll acquiesce, if not exactly when. But didn't press for it the moment. We're gracious in victory.
And fucking relieved. All this should never have happened. I'm getting on and I had things to do over the past 11 months. Didn't include studying the minutiae of UK Drug Treatment practices or waging a David vs Goliath struggle against a determined abstentionist foe. At times, it was pretty ugly. Innocent addicts have suffered and one bash victim won't hear the good news. R.I.P.
But it did happen. As Geronimo said about the white invasion " it was meant to be." Why?
What'll happen, at best, is the dsp will improve their services. Addict life will return more or less to normal. All will be soon forgotten. Younger or new addicts will stay shafted. Supervised methadone syrup if you're lucky. Treatment agencies will continue to cream the bucks. Otherwise unemployable middle-class well meaners will earn a salary dispensing bad advice and laying their appalling philosophies on y'all. Suggesting you 'get clean' or into rehab. If you're really lucky, you can be like them one day. Maybe get a job in Drug Treatment. Maintain the status quo.
No. Charlie's on a crusade. Better than having to live in fucking Cambodia, which was on the cards three hours ago. I get the feel one or two other in-tuners on this site are of similar mind. Just waiting for my neighbour to come back, I'll be surprised if not with happy news. We won't overdo the celebrations - getting back to where you were a year ago is no great achievement. Relax a little.
Think a little later about what this has all been about and where it may be going or taken. Then give up. I'm all right, Jack, pull up the ladder.
Unless anyone out there has either inclination or idea to change UK Drug Treatment from a sick joke into something real. Something that helps addicts, not use addicts to help rehab owners and treatment moguls. Someone scoring street shit cos their linctus doesn't hit the spot, whatever that may be, perhaps? Someone tired of wasting £300 a week while dsp workers drive Volvos and look smug? Or someone suffering at a degree, watching their partner going the toilet for the lack of a lousy script? Anyone sick to death of the secrecy, the stigma and the hype.
There are good people on and off drugs, even in positions of power. They just don't know addiction realities. How could they? Have you told them? Drug Treatment is up for grabs, what you make it, as you like it, if you want it. It's a bit David and Goliath changing anything, of course, but, hey, the fearful, the shortsighted and the greedy don't have to win.
Time for a shot. Love and Peace.
The 2nds have reported. Recommend we get our scripts back. Not sure about everyone - some peops won't be seen till 5-30pm - but the four with whom I've talked are all happy bunnies too. The dsp says it'll acquiesce, if not exactly when. But didn't press for it the moment. We're gracious in victory.
And fucking relieved. All this should never have happened. I'm getting on and I had things to do over the past 11 months. Didn't include studying the minutiae of UK Drug Treatment practices or waging a David vs Goliath struggle against a determined abstentionist foe. At times, it was pretty ugly. Innocent addicts have suffered and one bash victim won't hear the good news. R.I.P.
But it did happen. As Geronimo said about the white invasion " it was meant to be." Why?
What'll happen, at best, is the dsp will improve their services. Addict life will return more or less to normal. All will be soon forgotten. Younger or new addicts will stay shafted. Supervised methadone syrup if you're lucky. Treatment agencies will continue to cream the bucks. Otherwise unemployable middle-class well meaners will earn a salary dispensing bad advice and laying their appalling philosophies on y'all. Suggesting you 'get clean' or into rehab. If you're really lucky, you can be like them one day. Maybe get a job in Drug Treatment. Maintain the status quo.
No. Charlie's on a crusade. Better than having to live in fucking Cambodia, which was on the cards three hours ago. I get the feel one or two other in-tuners on this site are of similar mind. Just waiting for my neighbour to come back, I'll be surprised if not with happy news. We won't overdo the celebrations - getting back to where you were a year ago is no great achievement. Relax a little.
Think a little later about what this has all been about and where it may be going or taken. Then give up. I'm all right, Jack, pull up the ladder.
Unless anyone out there has either inclination or idea to change UK Drug Treatment from a sick joke into something real. Something that helps addicts, not use addicts to help rehab owners and treatment moguls. Someone scoring street shit cos their linctus doesn't hit the spot, whatever that may be, perhaps? Someone tired of wasting £300 a week while dsp workers drive Volvos and look smug? Or someone suffering at a degree, watching their partner going the toilet for the lack of a lousy script? Anyone sick to death of the secrecy, the stigma and the hype.
There are good people on and off drugs, even in positions of power. They just don't know addiction realities. How could they? Have you told them? Drug Treatment is up for grabs, what you make it, as you like it, if you want it. It's a bit David and Goliath changing anything, of course, but, hey, the fearful, the shortsighted and the greedy don't have to win.
Time for a shot. Love and Peace.
pinkpapaver
Bluelighter
yep, good to hear,should inspire us bag heads to sort out drug treatment, but sure jyust as we feel motivated, blindin fire gear ll come back onto the streets to demotivate us again...tis a great silencer is the oul gear
brimz
Bluelighter
Pleased that things have worked out 4 you Charlie .
But all that fkin about must be hard for the dsp 2 justify , no doubt they will .
Of all the peeps on injectable scripts that went through this ordeal , how many died or ended up in hospital ?
But all that fkin about must be hard for the dsp 2 justify , no doubt they will .
Of all the peeps on injectable scripts that went through this ordeal , how many died or ended up in hospital ?
Shambles
Bluelight Crew
Excellent news, Charlie. Just goes to show that fighting the Good fight is always worth it. Now to see what happens in the wider world of Drug Services...
B9
Bluelight Crew
Congrats well done for maintaining your presence of mind I doubt I'd have been so objective in your position.
charlie clean
Bluelighter
Thanks. Was a great night here. Two complainants have yet to report in but presently the score stands at Addicts 10, Opiophobes 0. We'll have a proper party in a month or two when the 'i's hav been crossed and the 't's dotted. But when your phenomenal relief is reflected in ten mirrors, it's big fun and very interesting.
Indeed Brimz. There's been a lot of stress-related illness and we're not quite out of the woods yet. A tip of the hat and a fond farewell to John W., dead before his time. Another victim of drug war madness and failed treatment policies. Be nice to think he was the last but Opium All Stars are more realistic than that.
But maybe, by standing up to the maniacs despite the odds, we've sparked a flame of Drug Treatment sanity here. Here's hoping you may pick up the torch and smoke out the madmen everywhere. If decent dope returns to the street, it should increase your functional determination not diminish it. You're still lining criminal pockets with your hard earned cash and risking having your collar felt yourself. Correct the fucks who think you can change nothing, don't run with them.
Well, actually, do as you will. It's your movie. But Drug Treatment and even the drug laws are ripe for change - when even the Daily Telegraph runs articles on the failure of the war on drugs you just know it. Do you know more about addiction that those who purport to ''treat'' or ''help'' you? If so, dont be shy. Get stoned immaculate and assume your rightful position. You know it makes sense.
A great 2nd day of spring in sleepy Cambridge. Now forward into endless summer.
Indeed Brimz. There's been a lot of stress-related illness and we're not quite out of the woods yet. A tip of the hat and a fond farewell to John W., dead before his time. Another victim of drug war madness and failed treatment policies. Be nice to think he was the last but Opium All Stars are more realistic than that.
But maybe, by standing up to the maniacs despite the odds, we've sparked a flame of Drug Treatment sanity here. Here's hoping you may pick up the torch and smoke out the madmen everywhere. If decent dope returns to the street, it should increase your functional determination not diminish it. You're still lining criminal pockets with your hard earned cash and risking having your collar felt yourself. Correct the fucks who think you can change nothing, don't run with them.
Well, actually, do as you will. It's your movie. But Drug Treatment and even the drug laws are ripe for change - when even the Daily Telegraph runs articles on the failure of the war on drugs you just know it. Do you know more about addiction that those who purport to ''treat'' or ''help'' you? If so, dont be shy. Get stoned immaculate and assume your rightful position. You know it makes sense.
A great 2nd day of spring in sleepy Cambridge. Now forward into endless summer.
charlie clean
Bluelighter
A gorgeous sunny day and the Cantab injectabiles are once again happy as songbirds. The relief is palpable. Actually, it's not much of an achievement to get yourself back to where you were a year ago. It just feels that way.
Of course, it means a lot more to us than it does to you. But the world of Drug Treatment is very small. This affair is its equivilant of Watergate. Behind the scenes, everybody's talking. Heartbreak House endeavours to halt the rumours. Other parties rather fancy spreading the news.
What's really incredible is that what our dsp tried to implement what is its national policy. Wanted to bring us into line with the rest, that's all. Introduce the usual methods, myths and lies to make this little bastion of treatment sanity as nutty as everywhere else. May even have schemed to have government return it as the new 'Drug Strategy'. The sort of sideshow you may expect when private companies move in on the NHS. An Emperor without clothes has seized control of UK Drug Treatment and the citizenry gawp at his finery.
But folk aren't mean. Human nature is not as Thatcher presumed. That's just old guard thinking, the projection of primitives. When the abstentionist policy reached its logical conclusion here and decided in its confusion and ignorance effectively to extirpate decent, law abiding citizens, the citizens rather balked. They weren't killers, not conscious destroyers. Besides, These were not rabid mutants who might leap from the gutter to mug, bite and infect you, these were normal men and women. Clean living. Only difference was they quietly injected medication. Didn't seem to be very 'harm preventionist' to mess up their lives so utterly. That wasn't the citizens' intention. How, they asked, has it happened? And what is this stuff, anyway? Why do we take it for granted it's as bad as sin? Difficult questions. Heads turn uneasily toward the Emperor.
But the Emperor is wily. Don't get power without great hutzpah. " Ungrateful wretchs," he berated the citizens, shaking his head wearily. " Do you not see all the good things we're doing? Classes in structured days, anger management, oregami. These poor, squalid users cry out to us to help them. It's a thankless task. But they need us. Our latest statistics for 64-tier rehab, counselling and stigmatisation are encouraging. Look at them, not at these troublesome criminals. Aren't they beautiful? From the finest Paris couturiers, expensive but I'm sure you agree well worth it." Knows a convincing appearance counts in the world of illusion
And the citizens went away. "Isn't the Emperor noble?" they gushed. " And such beautiful clothes" "But, haven't you noticed, there are more junkies every year? Funny, that." " What colour was his coat? Did you get a close look?" Confusing time for the citizenry. At night, they'd think of the drug "addicts", so different what they expected to see. Could it have been because they got their drugs legally and unadulterated? But then why was the Emperor taking away their 'legal' status? Was it because they rather proved a point that maintenance treatment properly applied can produce spectacular successes? That diamorphine was infinitely superior for short or long term treatment and would produce both a higher 'sustained abstinence' rate and rather better people? This wasn't what it said in the latest edition of Approved Mindset
Or, whisper it, could it be that Emperor didn't have a clue what he was doing?
Anyway, the citizens, in their wisdom, took a kindly attitude. The Emperor is tired, they said, he has an awful lot on his plate. Called in two wise women from afar to advise the Emperor. They spoke to the "drug addicts", briefly, in the Emperor's Palace. translated their words into a language the Emperor could understand. The Emperor's sage counsellors were keen to smooth the waters. They assured the citizens the pronouncements of the wise women would be followed and the "drug addicts" would be returned to their medications forthwith. Special cases. Unlike the other 299,988 UK heroin addicts.
And the citizens gave unto the "drug addicts" the glad tidings and the "drug addicts" were mightily relieved. Yea, for great was their fear over the year previous, it was for them a grievous pestilence lifted. " And the Emperor won't smite me no more?" they gasped, disbelievingly. "No, of course not." smiled the citzens, reassuringly.
"So all's well that ends well," said the citizens. " Funny old business. You'd have thought the Emperor, in all his wisdom, would have seen as the wise women saw a long time ago, tho', wouldn't you?" " I wonder what the wise
women will say when they pronounce unto the citizens?" " Perhaps they'll tell us the colour of his his jacket. Do you know, in a certain light just for a second..."
Does it end here? I don't know. The simple, indisputable conclusion is that British Drug Treatment is a bad joke. At best, a rather misguided endeavour. At worst, a sick hoax. What stunned us what how little the experts actually knew, how badly astray the non-understanding of certain aspects of addiction and pharmacology had led them. In this instance, it created a collaboration with what can only be described as naked capitalism. Naked capitalism does not usually destroy people so openly. Medically, an interesting situation. Has its psychosocial aspects, too.
Here may be a chance for an unusual minority consciousness to do a little good. I've had pms and seen some posts from sentient and savvy opiate users. They know Drug Treatment sucks, don't know what to do about it. Exactly the same as sentient and savvy health service professionals - affecting the emotion of 'caring' don't mean shit and they're a minority. Also. If I'm cynical I'd consider I've heard from all the worthwhile addicts on site. It's just truth that a lot of garbage run a habit - badasses become junkies because that's what badasses are supposed to do, one of those
'bad natures imitate bad art' things. And junkie life brings out the worst in everyone. The Emperor has his severe limitations but, Jesus, you don't want to let some of our 'peers' through the door. A tough decision for the wise women. If it were me, I'd probably appreciate all the cogent advice I could get, from wherever it came, however it was borne. Even if it meant getting metaphysical with the identity.
So there you go. It's an individual thing. You may want a script to sort out a little something in your head, something you can't quite put a finger on. You may want to improve addict lot in general. You may just love to see sanity, be it pharmacological or anyotherwhichway. You gotta serve somebody. Take the chink in drug wars armour prised out here and let the light flood in. One way or another, this darkness gotta give. If you want it. Otherwise let it be. Maybe someday, somebody will write a detective novel where every line is a song title.
Me, I've thought quite enough about drugs and treatment and seen quite enough of unfamiliar drug addicts this past year. Time to return to what I was doing 11 months ago, slightly older, slightly changed. I hope those of you who want it and whom it will help are able to get a diamorphine script. I hope none of you od or lose limbs or wind up in the can and that y'all may find your way.
Of course, it means a lot more to us than it does to you. But the world of Drug Treatment is very small. This affair is its equivilant of Watergate. Behind the scenes, everybody's talking. Heartbreak House endeavours to halt the rumours. Other parties rather fancy spreading the news.
What's really incredible is that what our dsp tried to implement what is its national policy. Wanted to bring us into line with the rest, that's all. Introduce the usual methods, myths and lies to make this little bastion of treatment sanity as nutty as everywhere else. May even have schemed to have government return it as the new 'Drug Strategy'. The sort of sideshow you may expect when private companies move in on the NHS. An Emperor without clothes has seized control of UK Drug Treatment and the citizenry gawp at his finery.
But folk aren't mean. Human nature is not as Thatcher presumed. That's just old guard thinking, the projection of primitives. When the abstentionist policy reached its logical conclusion here and decided in its confusion and ignorance effectively to extirpate decent, law abiding citizens, the citizens rather balked. They weren't killers, not conscious destroyers. Besides, These were not rabid mutants who might leap from the gutter to mug, bite and infect you, these were normal men and women. Clean living. Only difference was they quietly injected medication. Didn't seem to be very 'harm preventionist' to mess up their lives so utterly. That wasn't the citizens' intention. How, they asked, has it happened? And what is this stuff, anyway? Why do we take it for granted it's as bad as sin? Difficult questions. Heads turn uneasily toward the Emperor.
But the Emperor is wily. Don't get power without great hutzpah. " Ungrateful wretchs," he berated the citizens, shaking his head wearily. " Do you not see all the good things we're doing? Classes in structured days, anger management, oregami. These poor, squalid users cry out to us to help them. It's a thankless task. But they need us. Our latest statistics for 64-tier rehab, counselling and stigmatisation are encouraging. Look at them, not at these troublesome criminals. Aren't they beautiful? From the finest Paris couturiers, expensive but I'm sure you agree well worth it." Knows a convincing appearance counts in the world of illusion
And the citizens went away. "Isn't the Emperor noble?" they gushed. " And such beautiful clothes" "But, haven't you noticed, there are more junkies every year? Funny, that." " What colour was his coat? Did you get a close look?" Confusing time for the citizenry. At night, they'd think of the drug "addicts", so different what they expected to see. Could it have been because they got their drugs legally and unadulterated? But then why was the Emperor taking away their 'legal' status? Was it because they rather proved a point that maintenance treatment properly applied can produce spectacular successes? That diamorphine was infinitely superior for short or long term treatment and would produce both a higher 'sustained abstinence' rate and rather better people? This wasn't what it said in the latest edition of Approved Mindset
Or, whisper it, could it be that Emperor didn't have a clue what he was doing?
Anyway, the citizens, in their wisdom, took a kindly attitude. The Emperor is tired, they said, he has an awful lot on his plate. Called in two wise women from afar to advise the Emperor. They spoke to the "drug addicts", briefly, in the Emperor's Palace. translated their words into a language the Emperor could understand. The Emperor's sage counsellors were keen to smooth the waters. They assured the citizens the pronouncements of the wise women would be followed and the "drug addicts" would be returned to their medications forthwith. Special cases. Unlike the other 299,988 UK heroin addicts.
And the citizens gave unto the "drug addicts" the glad tidings and the "drug addicts" were mightily relieved. Yea, for great was their fear over the year previous, it was for them a grievous pestilence lifted. " And the Emperor won't smite me no more?" they gasped, disbelievingly. "No, of course not." smiled the citzens, reassuringly.
"So all's well that ends well," said the citizens. " Funny old business. You'd have thought the Emperor, in all his wisdom, would have seen as the wise women saw a long time ago, tho', wouldn't you?" " I wonder what the wise
women will say when they pronounce unto the citizens?" " Perhaps they'll tell us the colour of his his jacket. Do you know, in a certain light just for a second..."
Does it end here? I don't know. The simple, indisputable conclusion is that British Drug Treatment is a bad joke. At best, a rather misguided endeavour. At worst, a sick hoax. What stunned us what how little the experts actually knew, how badly astray the non-understanding of certain aspects of addiction and pharmacology had led them. In this instance, it created a collaboration with what can only be described as naked capitalism. Naked capitalism does not usually destroy people so openly. Medically, an interesting situation. Has its psychosocial aspects, too.
Here may be a chance for an unusual minority consciousness to do a little good. I've had pms and seen some posts from sentient and savvy opiate users. They know Drug Treatment sucks, don't know what to do about it. Exactly the same as sentient and savvy health service professionals - affecting the emotion of 'caring' don't mean shit and they're a minority. Also. If I'm cynical I'd consider I've heard from all the worthwhile addicts on site. It's just truth that a lot of garbage run a habit - badasses become junkies because that's what badasses are supposed to do, one of those
'bad natures imitate bad art' things. And junkie life brings out the worst in everyone. The Emperor has his severe limitations but, Jesus, you don't want to let some of our 'peers' through the door. A tough decision for the wise women. If it were me, I'd probably appreciate all the cogent advice I could get, from wherever it came, however it was borne. Even if it meant getting metaphysical with the identity.
So there you go. It's an individual thing. You may want a script to sort out a little something in your head, something you can't quite put a finger on. You may want to improve addict lot in general. You may just love to see sanity, be it pharmacological or anyotherwhichway. You gotta serve somebody. Take the chink in drug wars armour prised out here and let the light flood in. One way or another, this darkness gotta give. If you want it. Otherwise let it be. Maybe someday, somebody will write a detective novel where every line is a song title.
Me, I've thought quite enough about drugs and treatment and seen quite enough of unfamiliar drug addicts this past year. Time to return to what I was doing 11 months ago, slightly older, slightly changed. I hope those of you who want it and whom it will help are able to get a diamorphine script. I hope none of you od or lose limbs or wind up in the can and that y'all may find your way.
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charlie clean
Bluelighter
I'm not going to bother posting updates on the situation. For those interested, the latest details can be found on the 'Outrage' thread on the 'General Discussion' forum at www.m-alliance.org.uk. Just google and follow your nose.
I've taken on board that the demographic here is rather against we elderly, forever young penseurs. Anything beyond 140 characters is too much for the too-long-don't-readers. The acid(?) heads and speed freaks are scarcely interested. Yet. A number will find their opiate days are ahead of them, let them find their own way as we had to. And, as Pinks points out, once that good b begins to flow again, papaverians of present times will find it simpler to bliss out and not give a fuck than trying to challenge the monolith of Drug Treatment. Too much fucking effort, to quote my mate who used to wave at the traffic, the pollution and the anxious faces and say "you've got to be mad not take heroin".
But times change. All hell breaks loose in the Middle East and what's left of the union men are marching in London today. Times are a-changing. If things don't go as you'd've have liked, don't bitch if you shrugged idly and let it happen. You get what you deserve. Some people never worked a day in their lives, don't know what work even means. Honies, you're all going to find out real soon, hope it doesn't catch you unawares.
Think that more or less says it all, to continue will be just superfluous posing. Many, many thanks for your posts and pms of solidarity. To you prescient few, don't give up and good luck. The war for peace is just beginning, we're all in this together and it's all the mind.
to you all.
I've taken on board that the demographic here is rather against we elderly, forever young penseurs. Anything beyond 140 characters is too much for the too-long-don't-readers. The acid(?) heads and speed freaks are scarcely interested. Yet. A number will find their opiate days are ahead of them, let them find their own way as we had to. And, as Pinks points out, once that good b begins to flow again, papaverians of present times will find it simpler to bliss out and not give a fuck than trying to challenge the monolith of Drug Treatment. Too much fucking effort, to quote my mate who used to wave at the traffic, the pollution and the anxious faces and say "you've got to be mad not take heroin".
But times change. All hell breaks loose in the Middle East and what's left of the union men are marching in London today. Times are a-changing. If things don't go as you'd've have liked, don't bitch if you shrugged idly and let it happen. You get what you deserve. Some people never worked a day in their lives, don't know what work even means. Honies, you're all going to find out real soon, hope it doesn't catch you unawares.
Think that more or less says it all, to continue will be just superfluous posing. Many, many thanks for your posts and pms of solidarity. To you prescient few, don't give up and good luck. The war for peace is just beginning, we're all in this together and it's all the mind.
to you all.
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WarmRushes
Bluelight Crew
Brilliant post Charlie. Good on you and your fellow addicts, invariably because of your posts I brought up the discussion about treatment with diamorphine with my keyworker to get her perspective on it, and to her credit she seemed to have pretty much the same opinions as me, you and everyone else with half a brain. I know it'll make no difference to the status of the drug, or the stigma stamped all over me as junkie scumbag, but at least something was said.
I've really enjoyed your presence and hope you stick around, either way, nice one Charlie Clean
I've really enjoyed your presence and hope you stick around, either way, nice one Charlie Clean
brimz
Bluelighter
1st key working sesh in 3 months !
tODAY I'M GONNA BE SEEING A kEY WORKER FOR THE 1ST TIME IN 3 months .
I don't really no the guy , he doesn't nom anything about my addiction n basiclly i'm a wee bit anxious about the whole sketch.
I've been getting my repeats of benzos n methadone , with a no real hassle but only 1 incident.
The bit that is really fuked up is that after speaking to my Gp on Monday (he writes my scripts) n telling him i was seeing this key worker , The Gp didn't even no who the guy was , never heard of him n frankly couldn't give ashit!
I like my Gp apart from when he 4gets things ! n don't want the local Drug agency 2 start scripting me as i have been dropped from them twice before leading to near death situtions once i was dropped the day b4 my Dads funeral FFS!
The whole thing has got me really anxious n just going to the building is enuff , i asked if we could meet at my Flat or the Surgery basiclly anywhere but this place that brings back strong emotions n feelings of Anxiety .
Wish me luck .
tODAY I'M GONNA BE SEEING A kEY WORKER FOR THE 1ST TIME IN 3 months .
I don't really no the guy , he doesn't nom anything about my addiction n basiclly i'm a wee bit anxious about the whole sketch.
I've been getting my repeats of benzos n methadone , with a no real hassle but only 1 incident.
The bit that is really fuked up is that after speaking to my Gp on Monday (he writes my scripts) n telling him i was seeing this key worker , The Gp didn't even no who the guy was , never heard of him n frankly couldn't give ashit!
I like my Gp apart from when he 4gets things ! n don't want the local Drug agency 2 start scripting me as i have been dropped from them twice before leading to near death situtions once i was dropped the day b4 my Dads funeral FFS!
The whole thing has got me really anxious n just going to the building is enuff , i asked if we could meet at my Flat or the Surgery basiclly anywhere but this place that brings back strong emotions n feelings of Anxiety .
Wish me luck .
brimz
Bluelighter
It went really well n the Guy was alright.
On;y problem is i scored within 3 hours of the meeting![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
On;y problem is i scored within 3 hours of the meeting
smackcraft
Bluelighter
Theres a hell of alot to read in this thread but from what ive caught is this the sum of it ?
You was on a script that you was happy with for 20 years , they wanted to take that away and put you on to methadone and daily supervised consumption after getting your script home with you for 20 years ?
You and your friends have fought for your original ways of treatment and won
You was on a script that you was happy with for 20 years , they wanted to take that away and put you on to methadone and daily supervised consumption after getting your script home with you for 20 years ?
You and your friends have fought for your original ways of treatment and won
brimz
Bluelighter
Theres a hell of alot to read in this thread but from what ive caught is this the sum of it ?
You was on a script that you was happy with for 20 years , they wanted to take that away and put you on to methadone and daily supervised consumption after getting your script home with you for 20 years ?
You and your friends have fought for your original ways of treatment and won
Nah thats Charlie he's the guy that started the thread.
I post in it cos its probably the most serious thread inEADD abut Drug Treatment.
Which is a pretty poor show in this country atm .
Cos i was seeing a Key worker 4 the 1st time in ages when really i meant 2 see one every fortnighti hough i would resarect this thread .
Yor in Drug treatment yourself n theirs a petition in this thread somewhere about prescribing Diamorphine to addicts rather than Deathadone.
Sign the mofo
brimz
Bluelighter
Yeah , he was definatley one of the better ones n i've had about 30.
smackcraft
Bluelighter
Nah thats Charlie he's the guy that started the thread.
I post in it cos its probably the most serious thread inEADD abut Drug Treatment.
Which is a pretty poor show in this country atm .
Cos i was seeing a Key worker 4 the 1st time in ages when really i meant 2 see one every fortnighti hough i would resarect this thread .
Yor in Drug treatment yourself n theirs a petition in this thread somewhere about prescribing Diamorphine to addicts rather than Deathadone.
Sign the mofo
Sorry i was referring to the OP lol
i read some of the first posts on the thread in the morning and wanted to check if i had understood properly lol