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Legless Man Kills Girlfriend.

parttime crackhead said:
Did Chris Benoit slap the crossface on his kid because his wife was tidy? Or because he was a bit mental?
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Just look at his Purdy wife, man...

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Who WOULDN'T want to go mental and kill her?
 
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raas_2012 said:
Well I hope I cleared that misconception up in the second post.
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No, you didn't. All you did was repeat the same vague assertions about male violence against women being a manifestation of the 'selfish, greedy and egoistic desires' which supposedly caused said man to pursue a 'purdy' woman to begin with.

It sounds even more bizarre and ill-conceived the more you attempt to explain it. :)

raas_2012 said:
Truth is, though men abusing woman is not funny, there is at least psychological reason behind it.
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Men abuse women (sorry, you're not the only one but I hate the way people can't seem to get a grip on 'women' / 'woman') for a whole host of reasons.

I'm sure your attempt at pop psychology even rings true in some cases, but to attempt to reduce and simplify the entire phenomenon in a way that presents the man as a helpless victim of his own thwarted desires is pretty darn thoughtless and possibly insulting.
 
Sammy G said:
No, you didn't. All you did was repeat the same vague assertions about male violence against women being a manifestation of the 'selfish, greedy and egoistic desires' which supposedly caused said man to pursue a 'purdy' woman to begin with.

It sounds even more bizarre and ill-conceived the more you attempt to explain it. :)



Men abuse women (sorry, you're not the only one but I hate the way people can't seem to get a grip on 'women' / 'woman') for a whole host of reasons.

I'm sure your attempt at pop psychology even rings true in some cases, but to attempt to reduce and simplify the entire phenomenon in a way that presents the man as a helpless victim of his own thwarted desires is pretty darn thoughtless and possibly insulting.
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Whaddup, G.

ok, in that case I'll explain it a third time.

I have noticed, through observation, that guys who go for a girl on the basis that she "looks hot" usually end up getting frustrated, angry and regretting it. it's a curse in it's own right. In some cases they can't handle these emotions and it brings out worst sides in them, best example being my friend who made all the national newspapers a while ago.

In the case of Oscar, it's unfair to judge... but the fact he was dating a hot model, I take an educated surmise that the orientation of the relationship was probably not for good reasons, and it became a pre-cursor to his ensuing malice.

Ce comprende?
 
You just don't get it, do you? :D

A man's capacity to hit a woman has nothing to do with the attractiveness of said woman (or indeed the motivation behind the relationship) and everything to do with the bloke.

Alright, the frustration you mention may well be a decisive factor, but it's not the root cause of the violence.

EDIT: Nearly all of my relationships have been motivated by my belief that the woman in question was 'hot'. Yet I've never beaten any of them up, and the relationships usually failed because I was a lazy, arrogant fucker rather than because they were intrinsically 'wrong'.

You're presenting the perpetrator as the victim, and while I can see that you've spent some time considering this, that fact remains.
 
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Sammy G said:
You just don't get it, do you? :D

A man's capacity to hit a woman has nothing to do with the attractiveness of said woman (or indeed the motivation behind the relationship) and everything to do with the bloke.

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You're presenting the perpetrator as the victim, and while I can see that you've spent some time considering this, that fact remains.
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This is where you are misunderstanding me and misrepresenting my views.

Let me give you an analogy.

Imagine Oscar bought a beautiful car. A Ferrari F355. He's fallen inlove with it. It's a powerful car; Oscar understands. So decides there's no way he's going to put his foot down. However one night he decides to undercut another car at great speed. But the car is too powerful for him to stand, he is careless with it and he ends up crippling it and tearing it apart.

Now it's not the CAR'S fault for the accident. It is what it is. It's Oscars use of the car, which is wrong.

Likewise, you can't acquit Oscar's blaim because the girl is a hotty model...but you can blaim Oscar for his treatment of the woman and not being able to control his emotions.



Do You See?
 
I'll try to throw you a bone, Raas... I do get what you mean but you are oversimplifying things to such ridiculous degree that you are essentially saying "Hot women get hit because they're hot" which is a bit silly really. However, I do know what you mean in terms of a certain type of deeply insecure man who feels he's landed a rather bigger catch than he feels worthy of who may feel the need to take out his own frustrated insecurities with violence against the object (and I use that word for a reason in this case) of his desires. It's just that the way you're putting it - every time - is laying the blame at the woman's fault rather than its more deserved place which would be... well... in all kindsa places but largely in male insecurity, lack of self-confidence, objectification of women, inability to conceive of attraction and desire in any way beyond the purely physical and so on.
 
Hot women tend to be a little more lippy and are likely to throw a punch first. Ugly ones know their place and probably just happy you acknowledge them to begin with.

In all honesty I think it has more to do with the ego of such men who might have a hot woman more than the woman themselves. Powerful men sometimes think this means power over all.
 
Shambles said:
I'll try to throw you a bone, Raas... I do get what you mean but you are oversimplifying things to such ridiculous degree that you are essentially saying "Hot women get hit because they're hot" which is a bit silly really.
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No I'm not saying that. And I'm not writing an essay on the psychology of love here, so forgive the simplicity.

Relationships need a psychological basis. Yeah? If it's self-serving, ego-satisfying in my observations it tends to lead to a very negative mentality... and can lead to hate and opposition.

If it's a good orientation, like some kind of similar types of people who click and understand each other... it will lead to more caring feelings.

Nothing too elaborate or complex going on here. It doesn't need to be.


However, I do know what you mean in terms of a certain type of deeply insecure man who feels he's landed a rather bigger catch than he feels worthy of who may feel the need to take out his own frustrated insecurities with violence against the object (and I use that word for a reason in this case) of his desires. It's just that the way you're putting it - every time - is laying the blame at the woman's fault rather than its more deserved place which would be... well... in all kindsa places but largely in male insecurity, lack of self-confidence, objectification of women, inability to conceive of attraction and desire in any way beyond the purely physical and so on.
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That's not what I'm saying. Though what you're saying I generally agree with. You're over complicating my point.
 
I think Shambles was going into specifics where I was being more general. I wish I never said anything at all now. Let's cut this one short, eh?
 
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