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i smoked some AtomicHaze Death Strength today,
just made a rollie with a filter. Smoked it quickly. within 5minutes i was extremely 'stoned'.
More so then I have ever been from smoking weed (only smoke weed couple times a year).
Lasted peak 2hours, baseline by the 5th hour.

The peak for me, felt like everything was lagging, my thoughts in my brain were going a million miles an hour and the pitch of my voice in my head kept rising and falling. If i stared at myself in the mirror it felt like i would get sucked into the mirror, my facial features kept enlarging etc.
During the peak I also couldn't feel my tongue and had no feeling in my feet and legs.
There was mild tension in my head, felt like my brain was pressing against my skull.
Heart rate was greatly increased threwout the 5hour session, but once i was back to baseline it became normal again.

Didn't really like the high, felt kind of 'dirty' and paranoid. But could be just because I wasn't expecting to get anywhere near that high from a single rollie. Will try lower dose later.

This stuff definitely works, just need to find the dose that's right for you
 
rm2x said:
Myself and belarki tried these last night. We only had one cap each, but I was surprised on how strong they are. Came on in about an hour, unsure of when the peak actually set in as we had imbibed in other substances.

I think these would be great if you wanted a night out, but not get too messy.

I'll definitely be getting more of these and would quite happily go out for a dance on these alone. Going to double them next time and will report the effects.

May be trying atomic haze in the next week or so.
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I dropped 2 caps and it was shit.........the only way to describe it is being kinda stoned but not even that good.............last thing I would want to go an dance on.....
 
im a bit late on finding this thread but anyways i have tryed the Atomic Haze regular about 6 months ago it was ok 4 pipes gave me a half hour high that was ok i guess but odd, just tryed the new one a week ago atomic haze beyond death that shit was good one pipe wrecked me for an hour easy not much after affect maybe a slight headache after but ive been under a lot of stress lately so maybe none? anyway my question is i have some info on how to replicate stuff like this using synthetic canaboids but what synthetics [Edit] is it legal is OZ? i saw something about QLD having a blanket ban on synthetic cannaboids but where i buy this stuff from is in QLD so i got no real idea? [Edit] ive had some dealings with the guy that makes it but im not gonna get any help from there...
 
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herst20 said:
im a bit late on finding this thread but anyways i have tryed the Atomic Haze regular about 6 months ago it was ok 4 pipes gave me a half hour high that was ok i guess but odd, just tryed the new one a week ago atomic haze beyond death that shit was good one pipe wrecked me for an hour easy not much after affect maybe a slight headache after but ive been under a lot of stress lately so maybe none? anyway my question is i have some info on how to replicate stuff like this using synthetic canaboids but what synthetics [Edit] is it legal is OZ? i saw something about QLD having a blanket ban on synthetic cannaboids but where i buy this stuff from is in QLD so i got no real idea? [Edit] ive had some dealings with the guy that makes it but im not gonna get any help from there...
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Nice first post, read the fricken rules

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Doorway said:
I dropped 2 caps and it was shit.........the only way to describe it is being kinda stoned but not even that good.............last thing I would want to go an dance on.....
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Interesting...

See I've spoken to people that have tried their other ones they make and have had a blast on them.
 
In regards to the Neons I've had them quite a few times now and almost every time has been different. Twice I danced all night which is kinda odd for me cause Im not a big dancer (even on real pills) but then there has been other times when I cant move from my chair. For me I think it depends how tired I am when I take them, how much I drink on them and the general atmosphere of the night.
 
I thought I'd share a question I've been pondering...

At the moment, it is my understanding that it is completely legal sell Party Pills in Australia provided they do not contain any scheduled substances; likewise, it is also legal to purchase the same Party Pills abroad.

What concerns me, however, is the increasingly common practice of vendors/manufacturers to make bold, unsubstantiated, and even false, claims as to their 100% Legal contents. Furthermore, they commonly exclude, or mislabel, questionable ingredients.

In light of this, I wonder what the legal implications would be if an individual was to import what they believed was a legal party pill, when in actual fact, it contained a prohibited substance.

Naivety and ignorance aside...a reasonable person could easily conclude they were acting within the bounds of the law, having an obvious lack of knowledge as to the contents and therefore no intent to import a border controlled substance...but I don't know whether facts like these would even be considered.
 
^ There is a provision in the UK Misuse of Drugs Act for precisely this. I forget which section, but it deals with someone who reasonably believes they do not have a controlled substance. The problem comes with the definition of the word 'reasonably'. Clearly if you're caught with a ounce of stinking class A skunk, you'll have a hard time convincing the police you thought it was kratom. On the other hard, if you're caught with a small bag of a recently banned RC, AND can prove where you purchased it from and under what name, you stand a good chance of getting let off.
 
Does Australia have anything similar?

I do recall reading something a while ago that said the Crown must establish beyond reasonable doubt that there was both a knowledge of, and intent to import, a scheduled substance.
 
That's arguably a stricter test, and in your favour. The test of reasonableness (as provider for by the UK legislation) can be defined as being the 'more likely' version of events given all of the facts. Essentially, the police would have to prove 51% or more of their case in mathematical terms.

This is compared to the test of "beyond reasonable doubt" essentially means that they have to prove that you intended to import a scheduled substance. This puts the onus on them to prove you knew, rather than mean you have to prove you didn't know. Mathematically, they would have to prove 99% of their case...
 
^That is a very good way of putting it, at least in mathematical terms... However reasonable doubt, here in aus, is probably at about the 20% point... since LE will, no matter how much doubt exists, force an innocent man to testify against himself - just to get their paycheque.
 
Doesn't look like anyones posted about Atomic Haze Psych yet, so I will chime in here. I think it seems a bit more like the real thing than Death Strength/Beyond Death. Every time I have had it I have got body-transformingly-high, as has everyone else I know who has tried it.
 
I wonder if X-20-3 will 'legally' reach our shores. [combination of MDMAI, MDAI and mystery chemical, some think may be MDAT)
 
Verybuffed said:
I bought a Khat seedling at the start of January and it is so big now that I have had to trim back more than enough to chew on.
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Wow that is some quick growth. Were you using soil or hydro?

I had some growing outside in the ground but they took a couple of years from seed. I suppose if the seedling you got was a year old already then you could indeed have the material in a few months.

When its producing new leaves I think it makes a decent ornamental too.
 
Got myself a 3 pack of ZONK herbal downers, will be trying them saturday night when I get back from up north.
I like my sedatives, so should be interesting to see how they work.
 
^ Yeh let us know how you go. The reported ingredients are Scullcap, Blue Lotus, Hops and Celandine. The manufacturer has claimed on antoher forum that:

As for ingredients, they are listed on the package. And yes, those are the actual ingredients... these caps have been through several tests by state health departments [Qld, NSW, Vic, SA] and police forensic departments [Qld, NSW, Vic] and have always been cleared as containing nothing illegal. We actually developed zonk long before this craze of chemicals-hidden-in-herbs started and are proud to have a 100% herbal product that competes well with the synthetics.
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