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If a weed smoker could smoke some to see if the effects are pretty much nothing to them, or smoke it when theyre stinging for weed and it cures that addiction theres a little bit of evidence..
Im sensative to weed now and don't really use it much. But I could honestly say a pipe of the stuff acted longer and stronger than a joint i puffed on like 6 or so times on the weekend after lots of drinking.

My pipe seems to hold more than a normal bong cone piece, but its not a party-cone size.
 
I've ordered 400mg of spice gold. I have not smoked cannabis for several months so i will be interested to see what kind of effect i experience. i suspect (and this is completely unfounded, just a slight suspicion) that it may trigger cannabinoids existing in the body, thus enhancing the stone effect, but i only say that on the basis that most people reporting good experience are already heavy weed smokers. i hope to be pleasantly suprised.
 
Probably not. But's a suspicion ive come to entertain on the basis of Splatt's findings, and my lack of trust for any so called legal high.
Well i'll be fucked. it works.
 
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Herald investigation: Party pill pushers beat the ban

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Experimental "next-generation" party pills designed to side-step next month's Government ban have hit the streets.

One test batch put a man who took them in hospital.

A Weekend Herald investigation has found at least one of the new pills contains a substance police believe is illegal.

A legal loophole means party pill makers can put products on the market without having to prove they are safe.

Doctors say the new pills being created in the rush to meet demand may be as dangerous as those being banned.

The Government aims to have its ban on core party pill ingredient BZP in effect by Christmas.

The law change will classify BZP as a class C drug.

A range of pills being marketed as "non-BZP" is now on shop shelves. The pills, with names such as "Neuro Blast", cost $40 for a pack of three.

A man who took part in a trial of non-BZP pills for Auckland company London Underground was hospitalised when he found himself almost unable to breath, went numb and had his blood pressure almost double after taking two pills in August.

He said he felt he was going to die when he was hit by a "a surge of adrenalin into my heart".

The Ministry of Health says other users of next-generation pills have had heart palpitations and their fingers or toes have turned blue.

The Neuro Blast pills are being investigated by the police national drug intelligence bureau after scientific testing found they contained a stimulating substance called diphenyl prolinol.

Bureau head Mick Alexander said police believed they could prove this was a close version or "analogue" of pipradrol, a stimulant with side effects ranging from insomnia to psychosis and convulsions.

He would not comment further, saying legal action was possible.

London Underground refused to discuss the pills with the Weekend Herald and did not return calls about the police allegations.

A staff member, who would only give his name as Stan, said he knew of problems experienced by one of the trial participants but would not say what was in the pills.

He said Neuro Blast was no longer in shops - but the Weekend Herald bought some in the city yesterday.

Mr Alexander said police were aware parts of the multi-million dollar party pill industry were "pushing boundaries" with "obscure compounds" before the BZP ban.

"There are party pill suppliers selling pills without even knowing what is in them. If I was a user I would just stay away."

Mr Alexander said the party pill industry was exploiting a loophole in the Misuse of Drugs Act which meant manufacturers did not have to prove pills were safe before putting them on sale, as happened with food and medicine. Instead, the onus was on police to prove the pills were dangerous

The loophole will be addressed in a proposed Law Commission review of the 30-year-old act.

The Ministry of Health's chief public health adviser, Dr Ashley Bloomfield, said BZP party pills were banned because of safety issues "and there is no reason to expect there won't be safety issues with any of these purported newer and safer substances".

"The onus should be on manufacturers to show the safety and they have shown no inclination to do the studies you would need to do to show safety."

Users should "quite simply not take these pills".

Associate Health Minister Jim Anderton, who promoted the BZP ban, agreed the act needed to be reviewed "tomorrow" to place the onus of proof on pill makers but said it was a major job and the Law Commission would not begin work on it until next year.

He said the attempts to get around the BZP ban showed the party pill industry's motivation was not to be careful about the safety of users.

"It is to slip through the cracks and make money."

National MP Jacqui Dean said Mr Anderton had been too slow getting the ban into law, giving party pill manufacturers a head start.

"With the minister signalling he's going to do something for about 18 months, the people who established those markets and are making big money out of party pills have been working on the next generation."

Matt Bowden, a party pill supplier and head of the industry's Social Tonics Association, said he believed party pills should have to go through the same testing process as medicines but the lack of regulation was the reason there were breaches.

"Unless we have the Government work with us, all we can do is put out voluntary regulations and people will try to get around them."

Source - NZ Herald
 
Does anyone know what 'bush tea' is?

It looks a bit like pine leaves and acts like an upper when chewed or steeped as tea, but I can't find the actual name of the plant anywhere. Sometimes referred to as twigs, I think.
 
After a quick google search, I'd say you're right.

I got some today, it gives a nice buzz. I was told it's only just become available again because it had been banned, but the case was fought and now it's allowed to be sold only as a 'smokeable'.

I've only tried a little bit, but even that gave a noticeable energy lift, so it may be worth tracking down some if it sounds like anyones sort of thing.
 
I'm not a big fan of it myself, tried it a few times years ago, small ammounts of tea were good for a while, better kick than caffeine, but I don't really like eff or pfed, makes me sick for some reason, so wasn't a big fan.

It's never really dissapeared, just under the counter.
 
ephedrine or caffeine by themselves don't do much IME


however, when you combine them (50mg ephedrine + a few coffees) it gives a great "work buzz". It's like amphetamine without the euphoria
 
Who's delved into the wide range of synthetic cannabinoids?

The most common seeming to be CP 55,940. But the storage is horrible, degrades very quickly.

wiki said:
CP 55,940, is a cannabinoid which mimics the effects of naturally occurring THC (the psychoactive compound found in marijuana). CP 55,940 was created by Pfizer in 1974 and was never marketed because of its highly psychoactive nature. It is currently used by scientists to study cannabinoid effects in biology. Some effects that have been noted are a greatly decreased rates of lever pressing in exposed mice, and a greater reaction to opiates in exposed mice. CP-55940 is 45 times more potent than Δ9-THC, and fully antagonized by rimonabant (SR141716A) (Life Sci 1996;58:1239-47; last update 010106). CP 55940 produces cannabis-like effects in humans at a dose of 0.25 - 1 milligram and could potentially be used as an alternative to medicinal marijuana which would be illegal (schedule one) under analogue laws rather than by specific mention.

There is no information on the dangers or Neurotoxicity of CP 55,940

There is no history of recreational use of CP 55,940

Definitely been recreational use of it, but has anyone not in europe etc. tried it? Or anyone that visits this forum. Read a few trip reports scattered over the net. They sounded positive
 
I tried the Buzz liquid a few days ago and wasn't overly impressed - felt like I never really peaked properly, had a few rushes but nothing even close to MDMA. It felt like maybe half a pill of MDMA but there was still a certain magic missing from the experience. I don't think I'll try it again, I didn't sleep that night and felt pretty horrible the next morning, bloated stomach, no appetite, irritable etc.
 
Its not that bad. I thought they were better than an average street pill clean wise.. talking mentally here.. MDMA for me now isn't mental clarity at all, its just schitzophreniic voices talking to each other in my head. If you'd rather just feel the MDMA-like feelings, buy 2 cherry pops. they dont have the stimulant in them... or stick to illegals i guess
 
I had previously always combined Buzz/Pop with alcohol and really enjoyed it. Tried Pop for the first time by itself and it honestly just felt like a really dirty stimulant high.
 
Yeah?

My girl had half a vial and we went to that surfers laser maze and she was munted and fell asleep easy after
 
some really nice stuff around here in the UK at the moment.

loving the new summer daze as a less full on but sexy, fun alternative to LU doves.

the neos are great too but less clean/more messy & loved up in an e way.

found a good place to buy from too who is the cheapest i've found so far.

it's all good!
 
sugarpimp said:
some really nice stuff around here in the UK at the moment.

loving the new summer daze as a less full on but sexy, fun alternative to LU doves.

the neos are great too but less clean/more messy & loved up in an e way.

found a good place to buy from too who is the cheapest i've found so far.

it's all good!

Sounds just like an advert.....
 
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