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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards

legal downers?

Yeah, since I started on opiates I just don't care for alcohol at all. No enjoyment from it whatsoever.

Warm, fuzzy feeling of codeine or the gassy, depressant feeling of alcohol? I know which one I'm gonna choose :P
 
Thanks for all the replies. And thanks to the person who recommended erowid.org ..probably the most interesting site i've seen in a long time.
 
Erowid is a goldmine! Always love that site. Kava is good I rlly was shocked by the Fiji by far the best (I bought a sampler of Fiji new guinea n Vanuatu ) valerian seemed more placebo. Didn't induce sleep or anxiolotic effects just made me drowsy in the am. Nvr tried phen. Kratom was good but the Bali was the only 1 that effected me n actually stimulated me like percs do. Had a bad batch when I tried the red Indo. N the codeine post ^ I assume ur in the UK cuz unfortunately not legal in the states. All good advice tho thx!
 
Maybe not what you were looking for but sex and then cigarette in fresh air. Always works for me.

No GF?... there is always a solution if u kno what i mean
 
There's a product called Tranquila PM I got in Texas that is sold beside the 5 hour energy shots... it's a shot of sugary Phenibut solution! 200mg phenibut per shot.

I also got another shot that had valerian root and melatonin in it. It was called Drank or something like that and had a purple logo, to misconstrue that it might have effects reminiscent of hydrocodone or codeine cough syrup.
 
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Coolio said:
There's a product called Tranquila PM I got in Texas that is sold beside the 5 hour energy shots... it's a shot of sugary Phenibut solution! 200mg phenibut per shot.

I also got another shot that had valerian root and melatonin in it. It was called Drank or something like that and had a purple logo, to misconstrue that it might have effects reminiscent of hydrocodone or codeine cough syrup.
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Ive seen that drank stuff before. we have it at 7-11's here. They also have one called sippin syrup. they both have melatonin on them. kinda pointless, they just made me sleepy.
 
Melatonin is not illegal in the UK and it is metabolised to serotonin, not to melatonin.
 
Yerg said:
Melatonin is not illegal in the UK and it is metabolised to serotonin, not to melatonin.
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Ok, it does not appear to be illegal now that I've looked it up on Google. So much for listening to the health food store.

As for the precursor thing I meant whatever the below means. Apologies for the blantant misinformation.

Wikipedia said:
5-Hydroxytryptophan (5-HTP), also known as oxitriptan (INN), is a naturally-occurring amino acid and chemical precursor as well as metabolic intermediate in the biosynthesis of the neurotransmitters serotonin and melatonin from tryptophan.
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That does indeed say that 5-HTP is metabolised to melatonin, apologies. However, there is no reference given, so I'll take it with a pinch of salt for now. Hopefully someone with a better understanding of pharmacology will be able to shine some light.
 
for herbals there's:
Valerian, Kava, Skullcap, Spearmint, Wild Dagga, Passion Flower, Orange Blossom, Lemon Balm, Lemon grass, Chamomile, Ashwaganda, Schisandra, Poppies, Hops, Lavender, St. John's Wort, Catnip and Motherwort

Melatonin is a sleep aid but is not a sedative /CNS Depressant. It help in adjusting your inner clock or 'sleep schedule'

There's plenty of OTC sleep stuff; Anti-histamines and herbal things. None are spectacular and for the money you spend they aren't great long term. I make a mixture of herbal teas; if I really want to try to sleep then I'll try Tylenol PM plus 25mg doxylamine.


5-HTP metabolizes to serotonin. not to melatonin. I could be wrong though, but ti seems alot easier to go from 5-hydroxy-tryptophan to 5-hydroxy-tryptamine rather than to N-Acetyl-5-Methoxy-Tryptamine. I have never seen anything else that says 5-HTP is a precursor of melatonin
 
75mg. diphenhydramine or doxylamine is kinda like a downer-like feeling, but there can be unpleasant anticholinergic side effects. sometimes there can be a "weird" euphoria to these drugs, but many find them more dysphoric than euphoric.

kava sucks to me. valerian and skullcap in high doses can feel like a crude benzo through interaction of GABA-a receptors(at the same sites as benzos), but they're not very strong. good at tension, stress, and anxiety relief for otc though.

still, alcohol is the best legal downer imo...
 
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