Cocaine Le Junk's Cocaine Purification Megathread v. The Final Word

[Peruvian Cocaine]

If you have pure coke powder and its too stong or want to cut it to make more,but you want to get it back to a hard state.

If it's too strong snort less.

If you're planning on cutting your coke to sell for a higher profit, then you're a fucking douche.

 

[vanlier]

the interesting thing is the final result did not yield the "scale" shine that may are used to seeing... its kind of a dull looking ..still much better..no smell...no burn...clean...but its no phish scale

any ideas on why no shine???

should another stage be performed?

Who told you that acetone washed coke is shiny cristalline? This washing tecnique is around since 1970 and it always produces a kind of dull coke because it is very powdry just like talcum.

To recristallize it solve it in absolute alcohole, let the alcohol evaporate and after 12 hours use a razorblade to scratch it together.

 

[vanlier]

Bolivian cocaine is considered to be the creme de la creme of cocaine. Because of the high altitudes at which the Bolivian coca leaves are grown, the alkaloid quality in turn is of the best available.

QUOTE]


Where do you get this wisdom from? Bolivian coke was and is the 2nd quality coke because of the lack of lab grade chemicals there. Most of the bad refined coke is from Bolivia. It is yellow, impure and gives a hard body feeling. It doesn't matter how much coke is in the leaves but how to get it out, best chemicals and clean work. That is why peruvian flakes are famous.

 

[vanlier]

^Why would you want to rerock CUT coke? More specifically, why would you want a method of rerocking your coke without destroying the cuts when this thread is dedicated to purifying cocaine? That really makes me question your intentions.

The question is why he wants the cut to stay....otherwise: because acetone washed coke is not really nice, that's why. It is powdery and not really cristalline and it lacks a certain esthetics and rush, thats what friends are telling me, just like pharmaceutical coke . Thats why this procedure has never become popular although it was published again and again in High Time etc. for three decades now.

It gets much nicer if you solve it in alcohol and let it recristallize. If you get the cuts out with ethanol there is no need for an acetone wash. If the test for amphetamine is negative there is no need for it.

 

[vanlier]

I agree, ether does absolutely nothing for the quality. In fact, the weight after an ether wash is exactly the same as it was beforehand.Le Junk

Yes? But you were promoting it as an absolute truth....just after you promoted isopropanol. It all turned out sour...

Or did you just copy the solubility data from Merck index, publish it and let other people try out? Well now we know ether and isoprop are crap.....chlroform is useless, ethanol can do the job...

 

[xxl]

Well now we know ether and isoprop are crap.....chlroform is useless, ethanol can do the job...

I feel challenged to add my grain of salt here. There are cogent reasons not to use ether (explosive, heavily watched, eerie giveaway smell).

However, I was on the phone the other day with a pal of mine in one of the producing SA countries. When asked whether he could easily procure anhydrous acetone he unprompted answered "Hey, why don't you use ether? That's what we use around here!". So if by a strange act of God what you can get is ether and not acetone, by all means. You should work outdoors to be safe, at least on a balcony. I didn't take up my pal's offer of getting me ether because I don't own a backyard or a balcony in that country.

Note that the reason the amigos prefer ether over acetone may have to do with a much shorter waiting time for the solvent to vanish (I haven't checked this). I remember reading a Usenet post where someone longed for the "ethery" smell of good SA coke. A residual ether smell would be proof that the stuff had been duly purified.

Acetone and ether should prove more or less equally efficient, way beyond the other solvents. I think ether is more heavily watched because it is used in the synthesis of meth (not just in purification). Incidentally, I doubt the assertion above that acetone-purified coke is not nice. I remember that dealer in Cali ten years ago emphasizing that his blow had been purified with acetone. It was pale yellow, melted between the fingers into oily deeper yellow, started to turn into crack with the bicarbonate even before you started heating. Of course, the smell maybe disturbing if one is expecting the "classical acrid coke smell" but we know that this no longer means a thing these days. I would even venture to say that the more coke smells like coke these days, the less it is coke.

 

[vanlier]

"Hey, why don't you use ether? That's what we use around here!". So if by a strange act of God what you can get is ether and not acetone, by all means. You should work outdoors to be safe, at least on a balcony. I didn't take up my pal's offer of getting me ether because I don't own a backyard or a balcony in that country.I think ether is more heavily watched because it is used in the synthesis of meth[/] (not just in purification).

OK, let's start again: purification of cut coke is different from manufacturing coke hcl!

What we want here is to get active cuts out and ether is not good for that!!!!


Ethanol and aceton are the only solvents to get rid of MOST BUT NOT ALL the cuts.
i.e.: amph sulphate is insoluble in aceton so the acetone wash completely useless when your c ist cut with that!! But ethanol can get 90% out.

All amphetamins and metaamphetamins (except the base) are insoluble in ether that is why it is useless for cleaning.

 

[vanlier]

I remember that dealer in Cali ten years ago emphasizing that his blow had been purified with acetone. It was pale yellow, melted between the fingers into oily deeper yellow, .

I doubt that. Acetone washed coke is always white and not oily anymore. All teh oils has been solved and is gone.
Don't trust those myths and urban legends....

 

[Le Junk]

Bolivian cocaine is considered to be the creme de la creme of cocaine. Because of the high altitudes at which the Bolivian coca leaves are grown, the alkaloid quality in turn is of the best available.

QUOTE]


Where do you get this wisdom from? Bolivian coke was and is the 2nd quality coke because of the lack of lab grade chemicals there. Most of the bad refined coke is from Bolivia. It is yellow, impure and gives a hard body feeling. It doesn't matter how much coke is in the leaves but how to get it out, best chemicals and clean work. That is why peruvian flakes are famous.

I wasn't refering to the Bolivian lab techniques, I was refering to the actual quality of their coca leaves vs. that of the other countries. The high altitude at which the leaves are grown in Bolivia produces the best quality coca leaf.

Now, take those Bolivian coca leaves and send them to a Colombian lab facility and you will have the very best cocaine possible.

 

[Le Junk]

OK, let's start again: purification of cut coke is different from manufacturing coke hcl!

What we want here is to get active cuts out and ether is not good for that!!!!


Ethanol and aceton are the only solvents to get rid of MOST BUT NOT ALL the cuts.
i.e.: amph sulphate is insoluble in aceton so the acetone wash completely useless when your c ist cut with that!! But ethanol can get 90% out.

All amphetamins and metaamphetamins (except the base) are insoluble in ether that is why it is useless for cleaning.

And what grade of ethanol are you refering too? My attempts with ethanol turned out to be null..................

 

[vanlier]

And what grade of ethanol are you refering too? My attempts with ethanol turned out to be null..................

Really?!
You were telling the world in this forum that you "took out grams of pure amphetamine" with Ethanol....

My friends are referring to 95% ethanol. You recommended that.

 

[spiff77]

I can tell you another benefit to the acetone wash I have found recently. Its to really find out what your dealing with to start with. So many people think because its harsh or burning, or ampy that its good powder.
Well after doing a couple of washes myself. I was left with some pretty good stuff, as you can tell in my earlier posts. Then I happen upon another outcome. The result was pretty much nothing, just powder. Not the talc looking of the good washes, but just granular. No feeling, no euphoria, no nothing. So the wash got rid of some cuts and all that was left was-that's right. Nothing. So I basically started with no coke to begin with.

So all that said, the wash helps you decide which dealer you should kick the shit out of.

 

[Le Junk]

Really?!
You were telling the world in this forum that you "took out grams of pure amphetamine" with Ethanol....

My friends are referring to 95% ethanol. You recommended that.

At the time of my ethanol theory, I was speculating that the adulterant being removed was amphetamine, though the buzz was really never quite right when I completed the extraction, so I proceeded on while still making the thread.

So what I was so called "telling the world" at that time (before I did more research and found a better alternative), was indeed proved to be incorrect. No ones perfect, and all I was trying to do was make things better for me and all those that were following along. So, I do apologize for my inaccuracies at that time.

Notice in the beginning of this thread, I have posted the new "updated" formula. That is for what should be obvious reasons.

Now, I'm really sorry about whatever you've got going on over there in Europe. It's apparentely an entirely different cut being involved. From all of my experiences with the acetone wash, and with those from others who have tried, the acetone wash seems to be the correct cleaning method for U.S. cocaine.

Le Junk

 

[Le Junk]

Who told you that acetone washed coke is shiny cristalline? This washing tecnique is around since 1970 and it always produces a kind of dull coke because it is very powdry just like talcum.

To recristallize it solve it in absolute alcohole, let the alcohol evaporate and after 12 hours use a razorblade to scratch it together.

Absolutely untrue! With the exception that recrystallizing out of alcohol will also produce crystals.

But to the contarty, if performed correctly, the end result of an acetone wash will not only improve the taste, but the smell and aesthetics as well. Your final result will be a very crystalline, white diamond looking pile.

I've never heard of an acetone wash making your cocaine dull in appearance. In fact, it's quite the opposite! Vanlier, I have absolutely no idea of what substance your really dealing with over there.

My only conclusion would be that the dullness could be attributed to an originally dull cut that's also insoluble in acetone. That would be the only possibility I could think of.

Le Junk

 

[MattPsy]

Yeah... I have to say lots of things make lovely xtals from propanone.
Very odd that they'd be dull.

 

[vanlier]

I can tell you another benefit to the acetone wash I have found recently. Its to really find out what your dealing with to start with. So many people think because its harsh or burning, or ampy that its good powder.
Well after doing a couple of washes myself. I was left with some pretty good stuff, as you can tell in my earlier posts. Then I happen upon another outcome. The result was pretty much nothing, just powder. Not the talc looking of the good washes, but just granular. No feeling, no euphoria, no nothing. So the wash got rid of some cuts and all that was left was-that's right. Nothing. So I basically started with no coke to begin with.

So all that said, the wash helps you decide which dealer you should kick the shit out of.

it all depends on the kind of cut. But you are right, when nothing remains, there was nothing in th beginning

 

[vanlier]

At the time of my ethanol theory, I was speculating that the adulterant being removed was amphetamine, though the buzz was really never quite right when I completed the extraction, so I proceeded on while still making the thread.

So what I was so called "telling the world" at that time (before I did more research and found a better alternative), was indeed proved to be incorrect. No ones perfect, and all I was trying to do was make things better for me and all those that were following along. So, I do apologize for my inaccuracies at that time.

Notice in the beginning of this thread, I have posted the new "updated" formula. That is for what should be obvious reasons.

Now, I'm really sorry about whatever you've got going on over there in Europe. It's apparentely an entirely different cut being involved. From all of my experiences with the acetone wash, and with those from others who have tried, the acetone wash seems to be the correct cleaning method for U.S. cocaine.

Le Junk

so what you removed with alcohol was not amphetamine? How did you find out?

The theory about US and Euro coke is another myth, because many americans are complaning about speed in their coke and I guess speed is put in at the lower and lowest level of distribution that is why it doesn't show up in official reports much. But it is nearly always there - in many forms and you need ethanol to remove the most common kind: amph-sulphate

 

[vanlier]

Absolutely untrue! With the exception that recrystallizing out of alcohol will also produce crystals.

But to the contarty, if performed correctly, the end result of an acetone wash will not only improve the taste, but the smell and aesthetics as well. Your final result will be a very crystalline, white diamond looking pile.

I've never heard of an acetone wash making your cocaine dull in appearance. In fact, it's quite the opposite! Vanlier, I have absolutely no idea of what substance your really dealing with over there.

My only conclusion would be that the dullness could be attributed to an originally dull cut that's also insoluble in acetone. That would be the only possibility I could think of.

Le Junk

It depends if you are doing the wash thouroughly or just 1 time with 10 ml or so per gram. if you do it with 50ml or so to remove caffeine i.e. or you do it twice or followed by an ether wash your end product looks like pharmaceutical c and that is talcum like powder.

If you solve that powder in ethanol it will recristallize and is much nicer

Any way am not sure if the acetone wash removes also strenght and rush from c but many friends are telling me

 

[Le Junk]

so what you removed with alcohol was not amphetamine? How did you find out?

The theory about US and Euro coke is another myth, because many americans are complaning about speed in their coke and I guess speed is put in at the lower and lowest level of distribution that is why it doesn't show up in official reports much. But it is nearly always there - in many forms and you need ethanol to remove the most common kind: amph-sulphate

According to the much heavily praised book, "The Cocaine Handbook", by David Lee, it says to use 99% ethanol, 190 proof, ACS grade. That is exactly what I used and the stuff was still speedy. With the "proper" acetone, the speed is gone.

Riddle me that, will ya'?

 

[loudaudio]

I am new here but have followed this thread for a while... seems as though the acetone wash is great unless it is overdone ....then c seems dull.... and the ethanol wash alone left some burn... good results when quick acetone wash (only wash twice and no more than 2-3 mins each step) ... then ethanol bath ..... dry a day or so and boy oh boy !!!!!! taste great , looks great , I can just here 80s music ringing in my ears..heheh..