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hi!
experiencing mescaline for the first time monday and am explicitly confused by the information I've come across through research on preparation methods mostly because of so much contradiction in which methods yield the highest quality natural, alkaloid-ally active product--- maybe any of you could help with anecdotal information or credible references as answers to my questions below:
-simply, what is the preferred method for you or what YOU've read in bringing upon a great first-time (or anytime) san pedro/mescaline experience?
I have read about so many different teas that my head is spinning and one other common method involving ONLY freezing, refreezing, and blending the raw cactus with milk, water &/or ice cream (and also same "smoothie" idea with milk ice cream and prepared san pedro tea... combing the two methods...[AAAAHHHHHH!!!])
-how many times should i freeze and refreeze? will doing this too often damage any of the active alkaloids (i'm not only interested in the mescaline, i mean generally psychoactive alkaloid content of san pedro... there is more than mescaline)
-if making a tea (if that is preferred over frozen, raw smoothie), how long should i boil/simmer? i have heard as little as 20 minutes to as much as 5 hours, 4 times.
- how is it made traditionally in the andes? one erowid recipe on this, but have found nothing on any other site to validate. the andean on erowid prepares a tea, boiling for 4 hours, then drinking the liquid matter after simple strain.
-are there alkaloids in the white area AROUND the woody center, or only in the green area betw the white and outer skin-layer?
-if freezing/refreezing, how and where should i store the goos that drip from the cactus?
-similarly to above, in any preparation there are multiple steps which leave behind alkaloid rich excretions, how do we best handle these in the process.
the cactus is roughly 2 feet high, in a poor soil mixture, and from a nearby succulent nursery. it is comparable to other psychoactive plants i have studied in its aesthetic and I have stressed it by removing some spines and placing it in a dark cabinet for the past few days, hoping to increase the alkaloid content (have not read any threads of information directing specifically against this, only indifference or promotion).
i really just need to narrow down my options and would like to get a firmer grasp on what's actually the MOST effect prep. i know everyone is different but we really need a stronger consensus on this- whether it's tea or the raw cactus... the experience HAS to be significantly different!!!
Thank you for any help you may offer!!!
also, drinking the tea with 150 mics of L. I was thinking with a 2-hour onset of mescaline I should take the L 1.5 hours after ingesting the prepared san pedro in order to achieve a synchronized lift off... thoughts? i'd really like to hear any preferred extraction methods by those who have tried this combination, maybe the way sp is extracted is effected when combining w lsd...???
well, ive incriminated myself i suppose.
if it means anything to anyone, i have suffered and do suffer from severe stress and anxiety and choose psychedelics to facilitate active healing so i may function regularly/productively.
experiencing mescaline for the first time monday and am explicitly confused by the information I've come across through research on preparation methods mostly because of so much contradiction in which methods yield the highest quality natural, alkaloid-ally active product--- maybe any of you could help with anecdotal information or credible references as answers to my questions below:
-simply, what is the preferred method for you or what YOU've read in bringing upon a great first-time (or anytime) san pedro/mescaline experience?
I have read about so many different teas that my head is spinning and one other common method involving ONLY freezing, refreezing, and blending the raw cactus with milk, water &/or ice cream (and also same "smoothie" idea with milk ice cream and prepared san pedro tea... combing the two methods...[AAAAHHHHHH!!!])
-how many times should i freeze and refreeze? will doing this too often damage any of the active alkaloids (i'm not only interested in the mescaline, i mean generally psychoactive alkaloid content of san pedro... there is more than mescaline)
-if making a tea (if that is preferred over frozen, raw smoothie), how long should i boil/simmer? i have heard as little as 20 minutes to as much as 5 hours, 4 times.
- how is it made traditionally in the andes? one erowid recipe on this, but have found nothing on any other site to validate. the andean on erowid prepares a tea, boiling for 4 hours, then drinking the liquid matter after simple strain.
-are there alkaloids in the white area AROUND the woody center, or only in the green area betw the white and outer skin-layer?
-if freezing/refreezing, how and where should i store the goos that drip from the cactus?
-similarly to above, in any preparation there are multiple steps which leave behind alkaloid rich excretions, how do we best handle these in the process.
the cactus is roughly 2 feet high, in a poor soil mixture, and from a nearby succulent nursery. it is comparable to other psychoactive plants i have studied in its aesthetic and I have stressed it by removing some spines and placing it in a dark cabinet for the past few days, hoping to increase the alkaloid content (have not read any threads of information directing specifically against this, only indifference or promotion).
i really just need to narrow down my options and would like to get a firmer grasp on what's actually the MOST effect prep. i know everyone is different but we really need a stronger consensus on this- whether it's tea or the raw cactus... the experience HAS to be significantly different!!!
Thank you for any help you may offer!!!
also, drinking the tea with 150 mics of L. I was thinking with a 2-hour onset of mescaline I should take the L 1.5 hours after ingesting the prepared san pedro in order to achieve a synchronized lift off... thoughts? i'd really like to hear any preferred extraction methods by those who have tried this combination, maybe the way sp is extracted is effected when combining w lsd...???
well, ive incriminated myself i suppose.
if it means anything to anyone, i have suffered and do suffer from severe stress and anxiety and choose psychedelics to facilitate active healing so i may function regularly/productively.