Kratom is a powerful drug. Have no misconceptions: the addiction/withdrawal can be just as worse as that of a powerful opiate.
Idk if this belongs here but I know the guy that invented (or atleast the main distibutor) of kratom. His name was Dylan Harrison. He also owned the mr.niceguy company and sold bath salts and kava. Hes currently being hunted by the FBI for smuggling sex slaves out of america. I highly doubt hes in america, or that he will be found.
I used to work for him (had no idea about the sex slaves thing until recently) in his factories and offices. The stuff he makes is disgusting. All of it is mixed on the floor, a floor thats never cleaned and always has rat doppings on it. He literally sprays the kratom with poison. The mr.niceguy aswell, and with acetone. All of his stuff is truly disgusting and I hope this helps some people quit using.
Did you try the stem powder for WD's?? And if so, how well did it work for you??I've been mixing up which strains I use so much I wouldn't be able to answer that. I used maeng da a lot while I was dosing freely. Now I'm tapering on bali mostly but still have a few grams of white vein sumatran. I feel like it's probably such minor differences and would differ from person to person so much that tapering with whatever you've got is the way to go, at least for me. Perhaps a switch or not a switch will do better for one person or another, but no matter what, if you've been active in any kind of habit, you're going to experience some WDs when you quit. Reducing them is good idea, but for me, if I over think it or try to get out of WDs altogether, I just keep using, because really, the only way to avoid WDs is to keep using.
Stem powder works great for me, I can just go to work and not feel any WD's. So now I toggle between 1 week on stem, and the next week on regular kratom. You beat tolerance that way and never have to experience WD'sDamn, that slipped my mind. I should. I did try to order some a while back but my CC company wouldn't process the payment because it was from a state )TX) that was probe to fraud. Kinda scared me off of it at the time. But there were some other, not as well priced, vendors for stem powder. I' might look into that. But as it is a Saturday, I can't order til Monday, making my order get here Tues at the earliest, and I may not have enough kratom to last until then, so I may just suck it up and suffer through.
Have you tried using kratom stem powder to get off the kratom without any withdrawals??Heya pods, im currently struggling like you as u know i got clean from kratom but started taking again a couple months ago so im now hooked again and trying to taper (ill have to look into the stem powder thingy).Im also an alcoholic and a recovering stimulant user im now nearly a year of stims so thats something i can be proud of i suppose . I ordered some kratom last weekend as a special saturday delivery and it didnt turn up till the monday so ended up in withdrawals :-( , so on the sunday night couldnt take the restlessness anymore and went pub and got drunk which i then regretted in the morning , I like you am in this disease with you but im gonna fight it all the way and know 1 ill be free and happy again ,im quite scared for my future and always worry which is quite annoying i think its due to my high anxiety, Ive got a therapist appointment for that on the 28th of this month so thats another bonus , Im thinking of going to some na/aa meetings soon, im also currently doing a program called addaction which is a kind of meeting thingy with a therapist at a centre witch also does group meetings ! I really like this thread and will continue to update my progress , I hope your doin good![]()
How many days of kratom withdrawals did you go through?? And what did you take to alleviate it??I have been clean from kratom and alcohol going on 12 days . Just wanted to thank everyone for this thread it has been an inspiration !