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King of Opioids?

I would say some kind of mixture of morphine, 6-Monoacetylmorphine, 3-monoacetylmorphine, and diacetylmorphine at such levels that I could not know exactly due to so many combinations. In other words, black tar heroin.

While side effects are much more pronounced, duration is at least 4x as much as just diacetylmorphine, and the nod is much sleepier and pronounced.

But definitely morphines, of all and and acetylzed kind. I hate oxycodone and other opioids because they are too stimulating.
 
Prom king and Queen

KING: OXYMORPHONE (OPANA IR), Hydroz
Queen: Morphine (IV) Morphine Tea's spiked with a small amount of xanax

Some may ask why hydroz? But for me I use opiates in a rec. manner as well as a pain management. Oxy's make me paranoidish and too uppitdy.. Meh maybe its just my body but I like the hydroz for pain control. Therefor my king.... Some dayz I wouldn't get outta bed in the morning with out a couple 10z. But for a good time a 10mg Opana IR (not those stupid Extended release(which I've come to the conclusion after many failed attempts are junky proof)) insnuffed or 5mg banged is a great place for me. I must say I do love a good spot'o'tea.. Also havin a 1000ML bottle of liquid morphine layin around sets the night for success.. HAHAmehaaa won't go into that story. =)=D
 
Dipipanone. I don't know of a single user who has taken it who didn't make it top of their list.
 
im going to have to say buprenorphine. it is so fucking strong that no other opioides can even get near the receptors, and in a non tolerant individual .2 mg will fuck them up hard. id say thats pretty goddamn decent for an opie.
it also STILL makes me nod hard every night after around 3 months of daily use. inssufflating small doses every morning makes me really so fucking high.
 
jasoncrest said:
MORPHINE is the king of Opiates for me. It's the 1st one discovered, the standard opiate; and 200 years after its discovery, after the invention of all other drugs, it is still a common drug of abuse. I LOVE the intense itching it brings too...
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Agreed, but I do still like the rush and euphoria of Heroin more... I just love the differnece though, the pins & needles from the Morphine rush is awesome... such an intense body high, its great
 
ok agreed. morphine is the most euphoric opiate in the world. infact its one of the very best drugs in existenece :)
nodding...................
 
I am a newbe or whatever. Not getting into my whole history with oxy's but had problem with hydromorphone. Opana er 10's and 20's Felt like I could not breath.

Friend wants to know about snorting them. What is the cost of something like this and I see people talking about it but no reference to whether it is opana er or not time release?

tig
 
When I wanna be a spaced out junkie then Heroin is the king, hands down. When I want to be a contributing member of society and a good student, Suboxone plans a military cu and takes over.
 
My opiate of choice is Kratom. I like that it is also an upper so it's kind of like a built in mild speedball. By no means is it a weak opiate, you can definitely nod from kratom if you don't have much of a tolerance. The tea even tastes good if you make it with a lot of sugar and a French Press.
 
King - potent h
Queen - hydromorphone or oxymorph. (haven't tried o.m. but from what i've heard...)
 
^^ Whatever you have heard about oxymorphone, I can bet that 3 quarters of it was all made up bullcrap. The fact is, oxymorphone is rare. The vast majority of pain specialists who have been practicing in the field for god know how long, already know what they are going to give you before you even come in to their office. It's the traditional smallest effective dose of oxycodone or hydrocodone to start off with. Then they increase the dosage of either the oxycodone or hydrocodone as ones tolerance begins to build up over time. For people who don't abuse these drugs, it takes quite a while for a 5 mg percocet or 7.5 mg vicodin to completely lose its effect. After they go through all those and up to Norcos, they eventually get to Oxycontin. Morphine and Fentanyl follow, typically when patients are just about to die of cancer or god knows what.

Methadone and levorphanol are also becoming increasingly more popular for patients with chronic pain, and many pain specialists are actually using methadone and levorphanol because they come with much less baggage then morphine does. Many doctors also think that many people don't find methadone particularily recreational, so for them it's a first choice before they would ever even think of oxymorphone.

To top it all off, there really isn't a need to prescribe oxymorphone, as it has not shown any kind of superiority in relieving pain over morphine (the prototype narcotic to which all are judged by). In fact, morphine has always been the most effective narcotic for the most severest of pains, and no opiate/opioid has proven itself to be better in relieving people's suffering. The reason we have things like Oxycontin, and now Opana and Duragesic is not because they are better then morphine, but because they often have a less chance of causing adverse reactions.

Oxymorphone can be found, but it is extremely rare and I would bet that about 99% of bluelighters have not tried Opana. So a lot of what you hear about oxymorphone is, well, just hot air.

To top it off, it is actually very similar to hydromorphone. It just has a very slight edge in potency (sort of like how oxycodone is slightly more potent than hydrocodone).

Hydromorphone provides a wonderful rush when IV'd, but the actual high is crap. It doesn't last but about 1 hour and you'll find yourself saying "that's what everyone has been raving about"?

Oxymorphone is pretty much the same, except oxymorphone doesn't even have the intense rush that hydromorphone does. This one too, will last an hour and you'd be disappointed.
In fact, I tend to believe that hydromorphone is superior to oxymorphone in several ways, but they are more or less, very much alike. Just like how hydrocodone and oxycodone are very closely related, and just like how morphine and heroin are very closely related.

The real good shit is IV Morphine and IV Heroin. Those two are the ultimate in the opiate rush and blissful long lasting high that will have you nodding like there wouldn't be a tomorrow.
 
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Morphinator said:
^^ Whatever you have heard about oxymorphone, I can bet that 3 quarters of it was all made up bullcrap. The fact is, oxymorphone is rare. The vast majority of pain specialists who have been practicing in the field for god know how long, already know what they are going to give you before you even come in to their office. It's the traditional smallest effective dose of oxycodone or hydrocodone to start off with. Then they increase the dosage of either the oxycodone or hydrocodone as ones tolerance begins to build up over time. For people who don't abuse these drugs, it takes quite a while for a 5 mg percocet or 7.5 mg vicodin to completely lose its effect. After they go through all those and up to Norcos, they eventually get to Oxycontin. Morphine and Fentanyl follow, typically when patients are just about to die of cancer or god knows what.

Methadone and levorphanol are also becoming increasingly more popular for patients with chronic pain, and many pain specialists are actually using methadone and levorphanol because they come with much less baggage then morphine does. Many doctors also think that many people don't find methadone particularily recreational, so for them it's a first choice before they would ever even think of oxymorphone.

To top it all off, there really isn't a need to prescribe oxymorphone, as it has not shown any kind of superiority in relieving pain over morphine (the prototype narcotic to which all are judged by). In fact, morphine has always been the most effective narcotic for the most severest of pains, and no opiate/opioid has proven itself to be better in relieving people's suffering. The reason we have things like Oxycontin, and now Opana and Duragesic is not because they are better then morphine, but because they often have a less chance of causing adverse reactions.

Oxymorphone can be found, but it is extremely rare and I would bet that about 99% of bluelighters have not tried Opana. So a lot of what you hear about oxymorphone is, well, just hot air.

To top it off, it is actually very similar to hydromorphone. It just has a very slight edge in potency (sort of like how oxycodone is slightly more potent than hydrocodone).

Hydromorphone provides a wonderful rush when IV'd, but the actual high is crap. It doesn't last but about 1 hour and you'll find yourself saying "that's what everyone has been raving about"?

Oxymorphone is pretty much the same, except oxymorphone doesn't even have the intense rush that hydromorphone does. This one too, will last an hour and you'd be disappointed.
In fact, I tend to believe that hydromorphone is superior to oxymorphone in several ways, but they are more or less, very much alike. Just like how hydrocodone and oxycodone are very closely related, and just like how morphine and heroin are very closely related.

The real good shit is IV Morphine and IV Heroin. Those two are the ultimate in the opiate rush and blissful long lasting high that will have you nodding like there wouldn't be a tomorrow.
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I have been blessed with opana in the past and that shit is in-fucking-tense. told now that 40mg ext are around, relapse here i come.

the best opiate.
 
King

I'd say hydromorphone but it doesn't last long plus once you have a tolerance for it it takes way to much to get high plus no heron within 500 miles so I'd say morphine. but dillies give a better rush.

morphine king
dillies queen

Delmoss
 
First off, to Morphinator: Oxymorphone produces a much better rush than Hydromorphone, IME (which, by the way, I have quite a bit of). I had access to 100count bottles of 4mg Hydromorphone, as well as 10mg Opana IR (for IV use) and 40mg Opana ER (for snorting). I have shot up probably 200-300 tablets of Opana IR, with about the same number of Dilaudid 4mg tablets, and snorted about 170-180 of the Opana ER. Consequently, I can say that Oxymorphone is NOT overrated, and is, in fact, the most euphoric Rx'able narcotic in the U.S. It does not not give the "body" rush like Hydromorphone and Morphine, but it is more of a head/body rush. There isn't any other opiate I can compare it to, as it really is in a class of its own when IV'd. My habit had me shooting up to 30-35mg Oxymorphone and 20-30mg Hydromorphone a day, and as wonderful as it was, the withdrawals felt like Death himself was slowing tightening a noose around my neck. That's the problem: it builds tolerance incredibly, unbelievably fast, and the withdrawals are the worst I've experienced from any other opiate I've used (neglecting the weak ones, this includes: 100-300mg IV Morphine, 80-200mg Oxycodone (oral, intranasal, IV), 40mg IV Hydromorphone, 200-240mg Hydrocodone (lots of CWE's), and whatever else I can't remember. Oxymorphone made me her bitch, and it will do that to anyone.

Now, in regards to the thread. The best part about opiates is that they all are unique. Therefore, it's hard to pick a "favorite".

- Oxymorphone IV'd (even insufflated) gives the best rush, far and away. It's incredibly addictiveness and insufferable withdrawals make it the only opiate I've used regularly that still kinda scares me.
- Fentanyl, when IV'd, is excellent for getting your nod on. However, there is no rush, and it's very dangerous as you have to dose in small amounts to prevent an OD, and it doesn't last very long.
- Oxycodone is excellent to take during the day, as I find it to be stimulating and productive, but b/c of my tolerance, I have a very hard time "nodding" off it it, even shooting an OC 80 in one rig. But, as far as daytime opiates go, or "social opiates", oxy reigns.
- Morphine is good, but I believe it's overrated. You get nasty histamine reactions, stomach problems, and it's the only opiate that still constipates me. However, the "pins and needles" rush is unique and enjoyable in its own right, and it does last a fair amount of time for an IV opiate. Definitely not something to shoot up and then go out on the town on.
- Hydromorphone is excellent for giving a strong, overwhelming rush. However, at the same time it also doesn't leave much of a high after the rush is gone. You can catch a nod for about an hour, but then it's time to shoot again. This is a PITA, so it quickly loses appeal once your tolerance grows.
- Hydrocodone, if you can take enough or if your tolerance isn't terribly high, is actually a quite pleasant opiate. In high doses, I find it to be empathogenic. It relieves pain somewhat in low doses, even when your tolerance is sky high. Sure, you won't feel high, but for some reason it's analgesic qualities tend to remain.

So, there's my story, and I'm stickin' to it.
 
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