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Kind of a heavy thread.

You seem sufficiently self-aware and accepting of your situation that I predict this will be a self-limiting experiment. Meaning, I don't think the limiting factor will be tolerance; I suspect that after the first trip or two you won't want to do this more than every week or so, possibly because of the enhanced appreciation you have for sober existence. Either way, I hope you enjoy your journey.
 
Wow, I'd add nothing to Solipsis' post above. Completely agree, although I wouldn't maybe even mess with dissociatives and just go for the classics. LSD, psilocybin, mescaline and possibly ayahuasca. For in-betweeners: DMT, 5-MeO-DMT if you can get your hands on 'em, and why not: maybe some ketamine.
 
why do you think this? I'd personally recommend 25 c nbome to OP. It produces very colourful visuals and has (in my knowledge) no bad short term effects on the body. Timber, I'm sure you will be at a better place when u pass away, before you will prepare for your next journey. peace. <3

Hello. Just read something OP said about have a problem with a heart valve or something, and not wanting to do mdma because he was afraid of his heart rate rising too much. I know from my, albeit limited, experience with nbomes that my heart rate jumped pretty high with it, and ive read that other people experience that too. Is the heart rate jump about the same as any psych, or would acid/shrooms/dmt be safer considering his admission about his heart? (in my experience the PEAs had a much higher affect on hear rate. could just be me though).
 
I would try some 2C-B. I find it has some very good euphoria and in higher doses the patterns/waves of colours are pretty amazing at least to me.

But the most craziest experience was when I was on 10 hits of acid and then smoked DMT for the first time. Felt like being blasted in to heaven and seeing the most amazing colours. Don't remember if I met any entities but it really did feel like I was in heaven. DMT on its own is awesome and when you come out of the trip everything still looks different and has surreal feelings for a few minutes.

Also I recommend Ketamine for everything. It goes good with almost every drug I've done, except GHB, be careful with that one. I find Ketamine to be the sprinkles to a drug sundae.
 
One more thing after re-reading your OP. I seriously wouldn't worry about staying high on LSD (or any other psychedelic) for as long as possible. From my perspective, you'd only really 'need' one - or a few at most - proper trip. Done in the right circumstances, with the right guidance, I think you can have a seriously mind blowing experience that would put everything in its place. Hope that makes sense. (:
 
Yeah, I believe so too... but why not decide on that as you go along? Generally speaking it is a bit pointless to try and decide about the progress of something before you are actually 'in' that progress.
Which is not to say you cannot anticipate any of it, just saying that trying to anticipate too much is basically unproductive worry. ; )

People who are mentioning trying different substances once (that would include myself since I suggested a 'learning curve'), shouldn't we remember that not everything is as easy to procure?

Also I think that something like LSD is absolutely worth doing more than once, just every other day seems exaggerated and soon after trying it that should all be self-evident.
 
why do you think this? I'd personally recommend 25 c nbome to OP. It produces very colourful visuals and has (in my knowledge) no bad short term effects on the body. Timber, I'm sure you will be at a better place when u pass away, before you will prepare for your next journey. peace. <3

In my experience both 25I-NBOMe and especially 25C-NBOMe actually cause a significantly larger increase in heart rate and blood pressure than even something like MDMA - he said he wanted to avoid MDMA for this reason, so I highly recommend against the NBOMes if this is the case.

Even health aspects aside, while I do think the NBOMes are great experiences, in my opinion and that of many others here they're definitely very shallow compared to other psychedelics, and I think someone who's a huge fan of acid might be disappointed. They're definitely a worthwhile an experience, and a great one at that, but even as someone who does like them a lot they're not something I'd choose for such a meaningful experience - they're more one of those things that are suited for having fun and just enjoying the visuals.

YMMV of course but regardless if you're worried about taking MDMA for the reasons specified then I'd stay well clear of the NBOMes.

Regarding the tripping several days in a row thing - well, it works, but personally it's something I avoid except for multiple day festivals where I want to be in the zone the whole way through. This is because I'm looking for pure recreation at the festivals though and so needing a higher dose and losing most of the depth the 2nd and 3rd day don't bother me, but if you want your trips to be just as magical I'd definitely space them out - even if it's only a day or two between each trip that'll make a huge difference over taking it days in a row. :)

I think the ideas regarding mixing up psychedelics and dissociatives are along the right lines too and definitely worth considering. Dissociatives are a crazy ride and something definitely worth experiencing before your time on earth comes to an end. I'd argue that MDMA definitely is too, but you do have good reason for being cautious about using that, and if you were to go for it I'd recommend only going for a lower end dose, like say 80mg.
 
if you're looking to take psyches as often as you want to I'd probably use mainly phenethylamines such as 2c-b,c,e and whatever else your heart desires during the beginning of the period and switch them up if you start gaining tolerance to a particular one. Then you could do start doing LSD then as you get too tolerant to that you could take large doses of tryptamines like shrooms or 4-aco-DMT. Also if I found out I was going to die shortly I would definitely start getting pretty into dissociatives. Have fun and god bless <3
 
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