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Dissociatives [Ketamine Subthread] Dosage and Methods of Administration

I go through binges that sound like how people go through coke whenever I get it, but then stay off it for a month or two due to money concerns.

I'll go through 4 grams in 3-4 days. I've gone through 2 grams in a night before.

I feel psychologically addicted, like K is always in the back of my mind.
 
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^a true k-whole. 8o

I'll get there eventually. I'll wait until I have a sitter for that dose though.

Do you worry about sensory input at those doses (music etc), or do you just recline, close your eyes and wait?
 
At those kind of doses, removal from senses is inevitable. I haven't ever fully entered "the hole" from nasal ketamine, and haven't tried it in any other way. But take a higher dose and closer your eyes, and quite quickly you will be somewhere else.

All this talk of ketamine's psychological pull... it's funny, because I'm a whore for serotonergic drugs and recently had a pretty serious issue with abusing AMT, but I made 1.5 grams of ketamine last almost 6 months... I hardly ever even thought about it except some nights when it would occur to me to try some. And don't get me wrong, I love the experience. In fact, I would even venture to say that it's the only drug I've ever done that I really and truly loved that I didn't feel immediately compelled to repeat in an unhealthy manner.
 
^those are great recommendations. Needles and insufflation have always had a negative stigma with me, I've always associated it with shit drugs I don't want to get involved with (heroin, cocaine, meth etc), but maybe its worth looking into.

IM seems much less 'hardcore' than IV. Heck if I'm going to snort K, I might as well learn IM techniques as it should be a much more reliable.

I've wondered about methods of administration being a bit of a gateway though. If I'm used to insufflating K, it is likely to increase the chances of railing other white powders etc. Same with needles.
 
The Ketamine Konundrum
by James Kent

Ketamine is usually injected intramuscularly or intraveneously. The standard entheogenic dose is 65mg to 100mg injected for a person weighing between 120 and 180 pounds. You can snort Ketamine, but having tried both ways I am inclined to say that snorting is it is a waste of time and materials (but I have a sensitive nose which doesn't take well to burning chemicals).

SIDENOTE: I know there will be protests here. Some people can snort and "get off" in a full-blown way, but it generally takes far more crystal up the nose then one may consider worthwhile. I personally can't handle the stinging, burning, watering eyes, and awful, metallic-anesthetic taste in the back of my throat when settling into a nice trip, and it can take a full 250mg of snorted crystal Ketamine to get the full effect of a mere 80mg i.m.


I have had much experience with Ketamine. I personally find it to be one of the most "enabling" and interesting compounds I've ever tried. It is far more potent and intriguing than any phenethylamine, and it allows you to access many of the same spaces as various tryptamines do, but it does not have the mystery, overpowering ego, or distinct personality that other psychedelics do.

Ketamine has a very cold, unemotional vibe to it. It does not play tricks and riddles like the tryptamines do. It can be "withholding" at times, but it is never malicious, taunting, or baiting like mushrooms can be. It is all business, and in this vein, set and setting don't seem to be as much as a factor with Ketamine as dosage. If the dosage is right, the trip is a sure thing - no bummers, no maybes, no question. When you take the poison in at the right dosage, it does its job.

...consider this: If mushrooms were an ornately carved chariot pulled by untamed horses, and LSD was a fancy, suped-up sporstcar, DMT would be an elfin-crafted hypersonic anti-grav device, and Ketamine would be a VR headset and bodysuit with a T-1 line into the universal database. It gives you TOTAL immersion, and navigation is accomplished purely by thought and body movement. It can be very overwhelming to a newcomer, but once you learn how to navigate on Ketamine, it is (in more pedestrian terms) the wildest ride there is.
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Interesting. I'm getting more intrigued by I.M now...
 
how much K would be recommended for 1st time IV? 50mg efficient enough? how do i prepare...mix powder with water, heat up, filter through cotton, and shoot? gracias.
 
unsui said:
how much K would be recommended for 1st time IV? 50mg efficient enough? how do i prepare...mix powder with water, heat up, filter through cotton, and shoot? gracias.
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That sounds like a LOT - I thought more people IVed around 20-25mg
 
I think I need to IM K once, but I'm a total noob. Is the experience that much different than snorting it?

I've lost all hope for this stuff, will it begin again with IM?
 
blase deviant > it seem like you feel somesort of guilt, that you have to do K again. if you dont like it dont do it.

IM is like sniffing, it comes on rather slow. cept for IM u need less and there is a technique. check youtube for IM procedre, I found a few helpful demos there.
 
Well I didn't get to stop for 2 months but I came pretty close.. Let's say something like 6 weeks..

So I took another line and it was better then before but my tolerance went up pretty fast again..

I don't think I will ever have the same nice feeling with K that I had before... :(
 
If you are trying to K-hole I find that once you build a tolerance snorting the stuff, and are not able to K-hole like that. You will never K-hole with that method again. For me at least. Switching to IM is really your only option then. If your doing it just to be high on K I'm not sure about how long of a break you should take. I would say at least one or two months.
 
Is it possible to lose the magic of ketamine? I used to feel insightful on it, and only use 250mg per week.

Now I blow through 4 grams in 3 days, and feel sorta dumbed down, or else just semi-euphoric, with a body buzz, but no psychedelic aspect.

This is after a one year break, mind you.
 
blase deviant said:
Is it possible to lose the magic of ketamine? I used to feel insightful on it, and only use 250mg per week.

Now I blow through 4 grams in 3 days, and feel sorta dumbed down, or else just semi-euphoric, with a body buzz, but no psychedelic aspect.

This is after a one year break, mind you.
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Maybe it's doing too much?

In my experience, it's dependant on minute alterations to your time on it. I'm sure it's to do with getting the doses incorrect and doing too much, then suddenly coming round and wondering where the last hour just went for me. Or doing it in the wrong place/leaving my eyes open for the experience and trying to make out every day objects in my room that leads to confusement.
 
blase deviant said:
Is it possible to lose the magic of ketamine? I used to feel insightful on it, and only use 250mg per week.

Now I blow through 4 grams in 3 days, and feel sorta dumbed down, or else just semi-euphoric, with a body buzz, but no psychedelic aspect.

This is after a one year break, mind you.
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I was once in a similar situation, really its all about self-moderation. Sometimes I could really use a bump, but I remind myself that if I took one now, my tolerance would be up for....say....the weekend. So I abstain for bout a week, and then get completely wrecked for a day. Repeat.
 
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