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Dissociatives [Ketamine Subthread] Dosage and Methods of Administration

why not just leave the f'n band on? the septum is perfect!

any flame would help but a bunsen burner is best, or a big HEPA flow hood. or, better yet, use a .22 micron filter.

and agreed, having a relaxed muscle during injection helps tremendously in the ease of injection and preventing soreness the next day.

Also, I use 30g needles and they are great. 25g seems painful. Smaller is fine if you are careful.
 
Also, I use 30g needles and they are great. 25g seems painful. Smaller is fine if you are careful.
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I have a couple of 14G needles in the house (originally obtained by my other half for possible body piercing), but now I just use them for scaring the crap out of people! They look like sharpened drainpipes :D
 
As I'm in vacation(from work) so today morning I took 80mg of ketamine by orange juice. It was just before I have smoked a little cannabis.

I didn't want to write trip report so I just write it here. So when it all started I started to zone out. My room started to spin it was like my furniture was flying in my room. So I put on some music(Pink Floyd different songs from various albums). Then last thing I remember was that I entered to k-hole. It wasn't normal k-hole, it was like I was on 2C-T-7 but paralysed. I was like awake and between subconsiousness. Cannabis and ketamine did his work. I was like tripping and same time in k-hole whole body stuck in floor. I was layed down and and saw a tunnel when I watched straight. In the music rhythm, I saw flying thruu it and when music slowed down so my flying speed. In the end I was slowly brought back to earth.

That's about my trip this morning.

One questions to all ketamine freaks;) Which you find better oral or injected experience? What are pluses and minuses? What are differentse's?

And what kind if needels do I need? What are the mesurments....I've read many threads about 30 or 25g but what does this mean...are thees universal sizes like it doesn't mean when you live in asia,europe or us? So how can I decide? I have full 99,9% pure liquid ketamine so filtering isn't nessecery.

I'm asking this since I've never injected ketamine so I want to know what expect!
 
Depending on injection location a different size and guage might be needed. I inject in the thigh and use a 25g 1 in. needle. If you live in the states go into a walgreens and ask for a 3ml 25g 1 in. syringe if you want to inject into your thigh.

There are three things you need to know when buying a needle. The first is the size of the barrel. I suggested 3ml because with 100mg/ml solution the smaller 1ml barrels aren't big enough for >100mg doses. The next thing is the guage. The thinner it is the higher the number. You want an appropriate guage for your injection site. IV you want a real small needle. For the muscle you want to go higher like 27g or 25g and you go too small you risk breakin it off in your muscle. The last thing you need to know is the length. Depending on body fat you might need a longer or shorter needle. Realisticlly any needle will work if your careful, but the correct needle will make it much easier.

I have never done ketamine orally but I have my fair share of nasal and IM experiences. IM is suppose to be the grand daddy of k-hole experiences. It really is the proper way. Nasal works to an extent but is missing something.
 
Those who like to snort manly LARGE lines of K all have experience with oral K.
Little bumps every 1-3 minutes is far (and I mean FAR) more effective.
 
whoa 35mg of the S Ket and a bong rip sat little ole' Samadhi_Smiles on his butt for a good hour in a semi-euphoric daze!!! =D

I really like this chemical, having only taken 35mg doses (twice). Its got quite a kick (I only have small doses of the racemic taken about 5 years ago to compare to).

The plan is to take a week break and snort 55mg of the S Ket with 10mg of 4-HO-DMT (at the same time).

Woohoo!!!! :) ;) =D 8)
 
dirtmcgirt said:
i did at least 1g per night and usually more on the weekends at least 3-5x per week on average for months on end i think...

so i dont think you guys need to worry bout your doses yet!
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Amateur;) ! I did 5g on christmas day by myself, attented family dinner and went about my (wobbly) day.

My Dick===>Your dick

Jokes (apart from the figures) =D ;) =D
 
Expired K in vials

Jamshyd, thanks it is good to know. Is IM better than other forms of introduction. How much could a 210lb person need to obtain a decent OBE experience?
 
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^ I'm curious too for the answer, I'm sorryu I do not know.

My question: How Low Do You Go -

Whats the lowest dose of ketamine you can take and still be buzzed

I like taking 15mg for a buzzy feeling for about 45 mins - then smoke a bowl and bring that feeling back-

peace, love, and ket smiles for everybody,
S)S
 
^ I gess that can go up with some tolerance. I need 20-25mg for that buzzy thing.

However, 10-20mg is still psychoactive for me, in the medicinal sense (mood stabelizing).

As for hospital ketamine, I have actually never heard of "GM Ketamine". It could be just a brand of Ketamine.

Otherwise, there might or might not be differences, depending on which brand the hospital uses, and which brand your dealer got diverted. Some brands differ in their racemic makeup, however most of them are an equal racemate.

curious: IM is good to go if you have vials. The general recommended dose is about 80mg, although I'd start lower (sorry, but I don't have much experience IMing Ketamine...)
 
Ungoliath said:
Especially smoking K (I know tastes like ass)
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Were you smoking the HCl salt? How much? How effective is this?

I can pretty much echo others thoughts. If I have responsibilities, I'll abstain. But if I have nothing to do sometimes I'll get K'd out and stay that way until I've gone though grams (in one day sometimes).
 
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Were you smoking the HCl salt? How much? How effective is this?
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Yep, i've found no research on this, but smoking100-200mg will produce an instant, extreme drunken like state. loss of coordination, poor judgement ect... It is impossible to k hole this way (so they say) as myself and friends have smoked a half gram at times, it brings you to the brink of the hole but you never fall in
 
i think ketamine is wonderful stuff, i have tried 50mg of the S isomer and found it to be extremely pleasant, the body high was amazing aswell as the clear head i got from it even tho i would forget what i was talking about half way through my revelations =D. how does tolerance build with this stuff, how much would i need to k-hole?
 
I found tolerance to build fairly rapidly with multiple days use (never exceeding more than 200mg)-

I actually find it not nearly as fun the second day as compared to the first - I still do it though because its nice -

but I don't get that wicked good tingling scalp feeling that I do if I hav abstained for a little while -

-samadhi smiles wants to try the racemic damnit! =D
 
Ravr said:
how long do you people wait between K takes? 3 days, a month?
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Doing 0.5-1 gr of K every 1-2 weeks (except that I haven't been able to obtain any for months :X ) makes me feel really good.
I'm not strict about it but that's both the long run average and what I feel is acceptable.

That amount and frequency just about eradicates an annoying little problem I have.

Nasally btw. I don't see a reason to go oral and I associate needles with junkies.
 
I used to go for weekend binges every month or two, but unfortunately due to the psychological addictiveness of ket, these have blurred together. Be very careful with the stuff, if it grabs you by the short & curlies, it will not let go easily


Yeah, I like the situation k is in over here. There definately isn't an abundance like there is with other drugs(cocaine, marijuana, ect.) but there isn't a shortage either. It's weird, I've only not been able to get it once, but I virtually never see it being sold. I have to be actively looking to get it for it to be around
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It is the drug that exemplifies 'Red Queen logic' (see 'Alice through the Looking Glass')
 
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very low dose of IV ketamine

well i searched but couldnt find something similar with this one.
personally i think low dose of IV ketamine is one of the most euphoric drugs you can experience. you cant feel that euphoric when in a k-hole. i can even compare low dose IV ketamine to any IV potent opioid. what do you guys think?
 
Low dose Ketamine IV is certainly very different from any dose of K using any MOA. I totally agree with you - it feels more like an opioid than anything else that way.
 
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